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!8 year old goddaughter for "cool" LA dinner

cwmcm54 Mar 28, 2013 11:11 PM

My goddaughter will be in LA for her 18th birthday and wants to have dinner at the "coolest" place there. Suggestions please.

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    raizans RE: cwmcm54 Mar 28, 2013 11:59 PM

    price range? what's her favorite band or musician?

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      whiner RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 01:01 AM

      Price range? What sort of food does she like? What defines, "cool"? People-watching? Cutting-edge food? Sleek, modern decor? Don't know about places that play loud music, but I agree with raizans that favorite music might be an indicator of taste... if cool = Justin Bieber we're dealing with a completely different animal than if cool = The Rolling Stones.

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        jesstifer RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 01:40 AM

        The "coolest" place in LA changes on a weekly basis. If she's into Justin Bieber cool, watch TMZ tomorrow and note which restaurant he just assaulted a photographer outside of.

        If price is no object, she's sophisticated and loves food, and she wants a once in a lifetime thang when she's only 18, well, go straight to Urusawa.

        Otherwise, and I'm thinking back to being 18, when atmosphere mattered more than recipes...I'd go with something like Musso and Frank, the Rainbow, the Dresden, El Coyote, or the like, so you can say, "this rock star/director/actress ate here, died right over there, and this scene of that movie was filmed here and there..."

        I think that'll have more lasting, memorable cool cachet than the gastropub of the week that'll be closed next year. Or, if she's shallow, Katsu-ya on H'wood/Vine. There will be a celeb there.

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          foodiemahoodie RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 02:32 AM

          They want to see celebrities and people not too far from their own age. (but older, fashionable). You know, 40 something is okay, Kirk Douglas? Prolly not.

          Katusuya in Brentwood? Haven't been there in a year or so and that's plenty of time for a place to change.

          They might find the Chateau Marmont to be fun.

          Or Madeo - find all manners of celebs there. And Giorgios in Santa Monica Canyon. I see a lot of young, hip (and usually Asian) at Providence. And almost anything downtown is cool, but not a celebrity in sight.

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            Capybara RE: foodiemahoodie Mar 29, 2013 04:22 PM

            Yeah, my first instinct was to focus on vibe more than anything and suggest a downtown place like Umamicatessan or The Gorbals. Maybe Bar Ama.

          2. wienermobile RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 08:31 AM

            Gjelina Venice. "Cool" with actually affordable great food. Make sure to make a reservation.

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              yogachik RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 08:51 AM

              Probably Mr Chow or Nobu in Malibu.

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                Thor123 RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 09:52 AM

                Check out Eveleigh on Sunset.

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                  maudies5 RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 10:00 AM

                  Gjelina, definitely Gjelina.

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                    mc michael RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 10:03 AM

                    Kind of a tough one. Do you really try to find the coolest spot? Or do you try to find a compromise of decent food, possible cool people sighting?

                    1. JAB RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 10:46 AM

                      Gjelina and a stroll along Abbott Kinney should be pretty cool.

                      1. cwmcm54 RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 11:07 AM

                        THanks for all the help. She is a rather sophisiticated 18 year old; elite school; older sibs in SF and Portland; international travel; not sure about the music but I would guess JT, Maroon5, fun, some indie stuff - definitely NOT Bieber. Food is probably less important than attitude. I am in FL and haven't been to LA in five years so no clue. Gjelina looks like a good bet.

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                          cookie monster RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 11:17 AM

                          Gjelina is a great idea, assuming she's not a super picky eater, since they have a strict no modifications / deletions / substitutions policy. My friend has teenaged nieces who love going there when they come to visit. You may see a celebrity or two, but there will definitely be lots of hip, attractive LA types (patrons and staff). And strolling Abbot Kinney beforehand would also be fun for her.

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                            whiner RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 12:51 PM

                            Gjelina *might* be a good idea in the direction of "cool". But, personally, I'm not that impressed with Gjelina -- neither the food nor the "coolness" factor -- but I'm also from SF and my standards may be very different.

                            In another direction, I agree with the poster who suggested Bazaar would be wonderful (though expensive).

                            Agreed that Katsuya on Hollywood/Vine will have a celeb.

                            But, all that said, my #1 choice would be: ink. Wonderful, creative-but-rustic food, young crowd, minimalist design. While there is no guarantee of a young celeb sighting, it wouldn't be surprising. (Susan Sarandon's daughter Eva loves it.)

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                              cdub RE: whiner Mar 29, 2013 02:10 PM

                              i'd argue that there's nothing cool about gjelina unless you're a hipster. i love the food there. never my first thought when i'm thinking cool.

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                              yogachik RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 04:44 PM

                              Gjelina wouldn't be cool to an 18 year old. It's loud, they get you in and out as quickly as possible, and there are locals there, but no celebs. It's a cool place for 40 year olds.

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                                Porthos RE: yogachik Mar 29, 2013 05:00 PM

                                I go to Gjelina strictly for the food.

                                But I did see Luke Wilson dining at the communal table just 2 seats from me one Sunday brunch.

                                I also read somewhere a few celebs are moving into that area thus making them "locals".

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                                raizans RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 08:54 PM

                                i imagine she'd like something nyt magazine-ish, like l & e oyster bar (stick to the oysters) or bestia.

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                                  Servorg RE: raizans Mar 30, 2013 08:19 AM

                                  I wonder how the new Le Ka would fit the bill? http://lekarestaurant.com/

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                                    cls RE: Servorg Mar 30, 2013 08:39 AM

                                    IMO, many of the "cool" kids in LA don't view downtown as cool, so it might not make the cut for an 18yo.
                                    Since the OP thinks Gelina has the right vibe, I also agree with the recs for Nobu on La Cienega or the Chateau Marmont (too bad Lindsay Lohan is banned, but there's some guaranteed atmosphere regardless.)
                                    Mr. Chow is guaranteed for celebrities, but might fall flat on coolness.
                                    Osteria Mozza, Fig and Olive, or Ink might do as well.

                                    Personally I would take an 18yo to the Chateau. Exclusive, celebrities, famous / notorious, relaxing, and there's nothing else quite like it in LA.

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                                      Servorg RE: cls Mar 30, 2013 08:48 AM

                                      My standard reply to those "young people need ultra cool restaurant" was always Koi http://www.koirestaurant.com/los_ange... on La Cienega. But I have no idea if that would still be a good recommendation or not?

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                                        raizans RE: cls Mar 30, 2013 09:50 AM

                                        cool can mean a lot of things. i get the impression that her preferences are different from the stereotypical celebrity, wealth, and glamour obsessed teenager, though i'm not sure about maroon 5 and timberlake....

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                                  cdub RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 11:28 AM


                                  one of the coolest looking rooms in the city. you'll get different opinions on the food but i can't imagine that she'd be disappointed.

                                  1. Xericx RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 05:11 PM

                                    If she's 18 years old I doubt she'll find Gjelina very "cool" (unless she's a hipster type), meaning she wants music in the background, the "typical LA experience", young people eating and partying and the chance to end up on TMZ.

                                    So yeah, Katsuya or the Bazaar. I'm thinking the Bazaar would be best for the interesting molecular type of things they do with the food, the nightlife aspect of it since its young and hot beverly hills, the crazy decorations, monitors, statues and that store they have for browsing.

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                                      Porthos RE: Xericx Mar 29, 2013 05:15 PM

                                      Katsuya Hollywood would probably be the "coolest".

                                      I don't know if anyone has noticed but the crowd at Bazaar and the bar is mid 30's to 50's. Don't know if that is "cool" or "young" for a 18 year old.

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                                        Xericx RE: Porthos Mar 29, 2013 05:19 PM

                                        the food is "cool looking" and something she can instagram to her friends as is the atmosphere...all crazy weird spanish style modern art, bentleys and aston martins out front, etc.

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                                          whiner RE: Porthos Mar 29, 2013 05:50 PM

                                          As I've thought more about it, I'm more and more inclined to side with Bazaar. I've seen lots of people there my age (mid twenties to early thirties).

                                          Also, still would consider Katsuya as a second choice for the people-watching aspect.

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                                        foodiemahoodie RE: cwmcm54 Mar 29, 2013 05:20 PM

                                        Another choice - the food truck night on Abott Kinney. I think it's the first Friday of every month.

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                                          RicRios RE: cwmcm54 Mar 30, 2013 11:28 AM

                                          How about Coachella? It hardly gets any cooler.
                                          April 12-14, 19-21.



                                          1. ipsedixit RE: cwmcm54 Mar 30, 2013 11:39 AM

                                            Book the entire room at Red Medicine and have Justin Timberlake perform.

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                                              flowergirl RE: cwmcm54 Mar 30, 2013 11:44 AM


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