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eatrustic Mar 27, 2013 12:22 AM

I'm on the lookout for local stores that carry quality modern pressure cookers. I think it's time to give the technology a try again.

Can't seem to find any tho, only online...

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    betterthanbourdain May 8, 2013 03:35 AM

    just wanted mention a couple of things for future references:

    i was in the market for a Pressure Cokker(PC) specifically to do stocks. dave arnold suggested a PC with spring valve tasted better than PC with jiggler type regulator. Also suggested than PSI less than 15 Psi would be ideal. Jiggler releases steam that agitate the stock and effects clarity. Jiggler also releases steam that Arnold and Blumenthal believes releases valuable flavor into the air as appose to going into the final stock.

    Heston Blumethal uses a tilting skillet pressure cooker for his stock at the Fat Duck. From what I've been told they use about 10PSI. Their stocks have consomme like qualities.

    Ended getting the Kuhn Rikon 12lt duromatic.
    I got a kuhn rikon PC from citychef.com with a discount for picking up at their location + a cookbook and an extra gasket; it came out cheaper than ordering from Amazon + delivery+import fee deposit and without the extra gasket and cookbook

    combo or electric pressure cooker(PC) didnt rate or fare well in almost all PC applications. partly due to lack of PSI. though i did not see any specific review of the breville mentioned here.

    the brands that I have seem recommended in the English inter-web were Fagor(American/Spanish), Fissler(German), WMF(German), Kuhn Rikon(Swiss). Fissler and WMF are not well supported locally. KR was generally considered the best but was pricey and required to change the parts ie gasket with more regular intervals. People who owned WMF and Kissler seemed to have some quality issues and their PC would crack or break after a few uses.

    For a starter general PC(not for stock making) on a budget, you can get one from an indian store(ie Sabzi Mandi) like the hawkins for about $30-$90. Note: this PC design with how the lids fits inside the pot(cant explain well) causes some challenges when you have to pour anything from inside the pot out. Also I went into several store to compare prizes. Their prices varied for the same model rather significantly. The best price was from a supplier provided from the Hawkins distributor in Vancouver on (main/50th)

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      Philx May 8, 2013 08:29 PM

      (main/50th) source for the cheapest price is Sabzi Mandi or some other store?

      Thanks
      Phil

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      lunchslut Mar 31, 2013 12:11 AM

      If you are space crunched in Vancouver, you can try out the new Breville slow cooker/pressure cooker or the Cuisinart slow cooker/pressure cooker/ rice cooker. Both have sauté features and get excellent reviews.

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        eatrustic Mar 31, 2013 02:36 PM

        Wow, that makes a lot of sense combining the two and yes, space crunched.
        It'll be fun deciding.
        thanks.

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        cucinelle Mar 30, 2013 08:01 PM

        Sorry the brand is Langostina. There's a little rooster on the cookbook which has a lot of recipes and info also

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          cucinelle Mar 30, 2013 07:58 PM

          I use a langostine pressure cooker, have had it for years, all stainless, thick bottom, great safety valve and pressure release bell. The lid is a one piece clamp down attached to a cross bar. At first I thought it was kind of odd how both halves flexed up, upon clamping but after using it for salmon, halibut, antipasti, pickles and preserves, not to mention curries of lamb, goat, or chilli chicken dinners done in half the cooking time. I have made this my kitchen staple. Also the pot by itself is a fantastic stock or large sugo pot with no flavour retention and no seals involved--- worth a look

          1. Candy Mar 28, 2013 02:19 PM

            Look for Fagor, Fissler or Kuhn Rikon. They are all excellent. I would also buy a spare gasket when you buy the cooker. Sometimes when you are doing something that cooks in two stages, such as a pot roast where you cook the meat first and then the veg, the silicone gasket can become soft and not seal as well on the second stage. Also the silicone gaskets pick up odors and need to be run through the dishwasher to remove them. Garlic and onions are especially bad. If you are doing something with delicate flavors like a cheesecake or bread pudding (yes, both at are doable in a PC) you don't want those odors to transfer over.

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              paulj Mar 28, 2013 02:46 PM

              Fagor does not seem to have much of a Canadian distribution.

              Fissler
              http://www.fisslerusa.com/sample/3wheretobuy/index00.php

              KR
              http://citychef.ca/xcart/customer/pro...
              (Ecomatic - manufactured in India)

            2. fmed Mar 28, 2013 08:20 AM

              Williams Sonoma carries Fagor and a couple of other brands http://www.williams-sonoma.com/search/results.html?words=pressure%20cookers

              And Walmart carries Hawkins Ecobase http://www.williams-sonoma.com/search...
              This Indian brand is one of most prevalent pressure cookers in the world (along with Prestige). These things are used nearly daily there so they have to be workhorse tough.

              Check Sabzi Mandi (the big one at Fraser and Marine Dr ish) for Hawkins Futura. Futura seems to have a cult following. Search the Cookware section here on Chowhound for feedback.

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                paulj Mar 28, 2013 11:09 AM

                There are a lot of threads on the Cookware board about pressure cookers. Brands that get most mention are
                Kuhn Rikon (expensive) and Fagor. But I don't know about their availability in Canada. Because parts like the gaskets need to be replaced, you should choose a brand that will continue to sell those parts for years to come.

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                  eatrustic Mar 28, 2013 02:10 PM

                  Thanks for all the input!

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                Tinfoilhat Mar 27, 2013 07:06 PM

                Can't recommend a model, I'll leave that to America's Test Kitchen, but I do have a couple of thoughts based on my experiences.
                1) Get the biggest one you can. You can't fill them to the top so even the largest pot will cook a smaller amount than it's rated capacity, plus, you can use it without the pressure lid to cook other things as well.
                2) Make room in your freezer. Start saving all your vegetable trimmings in a bag. When you have couple of handfuls you can make the most amazing stock. Keep your beef bones and meat trimmings as well. Start looking for stewing chickens. Pressure cookers extract all the gelatin from bones and every last bit of flavour from old tough chickens. Your soup will be amazing. Have fun.

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                  Georgia Strait Mar 27, 2013 01:16 PM

                  fwiw - there is an article about pressure cookers on page 204 of the April 2013 issue of Chatelaine mag - a cdn publication avail at most supermarkets - and usually on the shelves at the library - Pressure Cookers 101 - they compare 3 diff brands - they "like" each one for diff features - all are 6 quarts

                  1. Fresco Pressure Cooker Model FPC6075 from the Shopping Channel - 120 dollars
                  2, Presto - Home Hardware - 100 dollars
                  3. DillKott - Ikea - $50
                  end of list.

                  ps - there are also various recipes in the same mag for pressure cookers.

                  1. fmed Mar 27, 2013 04:59 AM

                    I noticed that Ikea has started to carry them. I've seen some at Winners and at HomeSense. There are a few Indian stores that carry Indian style pressure cookers (the ones that whistle) that look modern.

                    What brands are you looking for? I'll keep my eyes peeled.

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                      paulj Mar 27, 2013 08:47 AM

                      While counting whistles is a common way of timing in India, the manufacturer's don't actually recommend it. According to a Hawkins manual: 'Begin timing the instant full pressure is reached, as indicated by the sound of steam escaping from around the vent weight and a movement of the weight.'

                      'Now lower the heat. ... if the heat is not lowered, there is no danger... because the vent weight will automatically lift to allow excess pressure to escape [this is the whistle]. However, frequent 'letting off' of steam .. indicates that the heat is too high ... fuel is merely being wasted.'

                      The Hawkins futura line is the one that looks modern.

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                        fmed Mar 27, 2013 09:01 AM

                        Thanks paulj, yes - it is the Hawkins brand I was thinking of.

                        (betterthabbourdain - if you are around, maybe you can comment on you Hawkin's puchase).

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                          fmed Mar 27, 2013 10:38 AM

                          Here is their web page http://www.hawkinscookers.com/1.1.2.f...

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                            betterthanbourdain Apr 3, 2013 11:44 PM

                            depends on what you are looking to do.

                            there are two kinds of pressure cookers. as in the way they work. according to the modernist cuisine, when they were comparing stocks made in pressure cooker, there was a noticeable taste difference when using one vs the other.

                            according from what I've heard and read, if you got the bucks to spend get the kuhn rikon. someone posted a link i think citychef. call them and pick it up in richmond and save maybe 20% iirc.

                            i do have the hawkins futura(india) or something similar. as well as another japanese pressure cooker which i find better than the hawkins. though the hawkins i picked up for 50-60$ new as per fmed suggested,

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                          eatrustic Mar 27, 2013 11:53 AM

                          Thanks, Fagor and Tramontina were a couple I've heard are good. I'm open at this point to whatever is well rated.

                          I'll check into the Hawkins one as well.

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                            vandan Mar 28, 2013 05:33 AM

                            I have noticed that here in Nepal Hawkins is definitely the king of all pressure cookers

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                          vandan Mar 27, 2013 01:21 AM

                          Might sound crazy but Canadian tire on Cambie has a pretty decent selection, nothing super mod though

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                            eatrustic Mar 27, 2013 11:55 AM

                            Of course, Can Tire would be a good bet. I tried London Drugs, Future Shop etc but no dice.
                            I can always just order online but it'd be nice to shop local.

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                              LotusRapper May 8, 2013 03:32 PM

                              +1.

                              Cambie/7th Crappy Tire store has a very decent selection of small kitchen appliances. But if not on sale, prices are not totally competitive.

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