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Coming to the Landmark Center according to Mayor Menino.

http://boston.com/metrodesk/2013/03/2...

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    1. Ha...I bet that cruddy Shaw's across the street is closed within six months after Wegmans opens...

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      1. re: mwk

        I guess I'm the only person in the world who is sorta-kinda fond of that Shaw's in all its 70s time capsule glory. At least, it doesn't infuriate me like the supposedly fancy one at the Pru. But I'd much rather have a Wegman's if it comes to that.

        1. re: BostonCookieMonster

          I am always amazed that I find plenty of parking in their lot regardless of when I go there. The inside of the store is depressing and Star/Shaw prices are the worst in the area, but if you shop on sale it can also be a life saver.

          That being said, it will be closed within 6 months of Wegmans opening.

          1. re: BostonCookieMonster

            Many years ago, when I was a student at BU, I used to live in an apartment right behind that Shaw's. My favorite time to shop there was 2:15am, right after the bars in that area closed down. The people watching was phenomenal...

        2. It will be interesting to see exactly where the store will be, and what they're going to do to provide additional parking.

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          1. re: Gabatta

            My suspicion is that the Best Buy will close and they'll expand from there.

            And yeah, the worst Shaws in the world will close before this even opens.

            1. re: Jenny Ondioline

              I thought I read somewhere awhile back that one of the larger office tenants was vacating their space and also that the owner of the Landmark Center (is it still The Abbey Group?) was planning an expansion of the retail space. I don't think Best Buy is going anywhere especially since the Back Bay store closed.

          2. Soorry for my post - didn't even see this one here!

            1. If you look at the site plan on the Samuels RE site, you can see they control not only the parking lot next to the T but that long building with parking as well. They can fit a lot in that, but the design challenges are interesting. They have to make it possible to get a lot of cars in and out, something Landmark Center currently can't do (if you've ever seen the backup trying to get out at Park Drive). I have no idea what the traffic planning for this would look like. Exit on to Brookline Ave? Another exit on Park Drive? That's on a hill with limited visibility and a bunch of roads that already have as many lights as they can take.

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              1. re: lergnom

                Interestingly, the Army Corps of Engineers Project is reconfiguring the entire traffic circle. Perhaps Wegman's knew about this reconfiguration (which I would assume will alleviate congestion out of the Landmark Center lot) before they settled on the location.

                1. re: chrisdapos

                  One major thing that could help them is a plan to make the Riverway come 2 way up to Park Drive and to allow a left there. That could open access directly on to the Riverway from that parking lot.

                  1. re: lergnom

                    I think that is what they are planning on:
                    http://fenwaykenmore.patch.com/articl...

                2. re: lergnom

                  I'd be interested in knowing what % of shoppers at this Wegmans they estimate will shop by car during the week. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a small fraction of customers (especially in 5-10 more years when several more large apartment complexes have been constructed). I am only guessing but it might be a number as low as 25-35% of shoppers with the vast majority walking or taking public transportation. The weekends would be different, however.

                  1. re: Gordough

                    I already never drive to Landmark Center because of the congestion. I can only imagine what it'll be like after Wegmans opens. But the Fenway T stop is right there, so I can see popping in every so often to buy a shopping bag's worth of stuff.

                3. Is this such a slow news day that Boston.com has nothing better to put on its front page (earlier today, its headline) than that Wegmans is coming to Boston?

                  Wgmn's is ok, but not worth a front page story.

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                  1. re: VivreManger

                    Well, it's hype, but it's not Shake Shack level hype. People do get excited about the Wegmans. I imagine if that Star Market were my local, I'd be singing hallelujahs right now.

                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

                    1. re: VivreManger

                      Everything goes on the front page now. The Herald runs a twitter feed in a big space. They want to generate page views and they understand that putting it up front leads to a click into the site.

                    2. Has the Wegmans that is replacing the Omni on Rte 9 opened yet? I think he is testing what will play in an urban environment with a view to Manhattan and Washington DC and probably beyond. In Central NY, he mostly has a suburban audience, so he frequently needs to expand parking lots.

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                      1. re: sr44

                        No, the Chestnut Hill Wegmans has not opened. I'd say at least 3-5 more months.

                        1. re: sr44

                          The Wegman's on Rte. 9 in Chestnut Hill won't open until this fall. The most recent estimate I saw was for October or November.

                          The full-size one in Burlington is scheduled to open in Spring, 2014.

                          1. re: overproofed

                            I hope you are right about Burlington. I heard a discussion of Wegman's on WGBH radio yesterday and though they talked about Northborough, Chestnut Hill and Fenway, did not mention Burlington at all. I am wondering if that fell through.

                            1. re: greygarious

                              Ground was broken in Burlington last fall. I would expect Burlington to open after Chestnut Hill (which is a smaller footprint store, not a full-sized store) and before Fenway. Burlington will have an excellent & new(ish) Market Basket and Wegman's within a mile or so of each other, a platinum combination not to be matched by any other place (not even counting a Roche Bros. not terribly far away) - with H Mart adjacent to the MB, all you need is a Price Rite to complete the picture to perfection.

                              1. re: Karl S

                                Spring 2014 is the target opening of the Burlington Wegmans.

                                http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

                                1. re: MC Slim JB

                                  The Burlington location will be the largest supermarket in New England (a tad bigger than the current title holder, the Wegmans in Northborough).

                                2. re: Karl S

                                  And there is a new Market Basket being built in Waltham, right off 128, scheduled for around the end of this year. Sounds like there will be great food shopping for those of us within striking distance of 128 from Waltham/Weston up around 128 to Burlington/Woburn.

                                  Personally, having gone to the Wegman's in Northboro a few times when I was in the area, I am wondering what affect MB's prices will have on Wegman's. Wegman's seems more in line with Shaws and Stop and Shop when it comes to prices than it does to MB, and however huge the selection is at Wegman's, the large MBs are very nice in their own right. I can foresee going to MB for the bulk of my shopping and then going up the road to Wegman's for a treat and to fill in the gaps.

                                  1. re: PinchOfSalt

                                    I'm definitely a fan of that big, spacious, well-stocked Market Basket in Chelsea.

                                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

                                    1. re: MC Slim JB

                                      As am I....

                                      1. re: Karl S

                                        Ok, I need to find out exactly where that store is....

                                    2. re: PinchOfSalt

                                      They will complement each other very well, rather than compete directly. Different market segments, doing different things, with some overlap. Shaws & S&S are the direct competitors, and will fail miserably. MB & Wegmans are in the top 5 supermarket chains, and both have nearly mirthful staff compared to Shaws & S&S (and even mirthful customers).

                                      1. re: Karl S

                                        Wegman's and MB do position themselves differently. MB is about value, first of all, closely followed by quality and serving the needs of the ethnic community in its neighborhood. Wegman's is about aspirational cooking, convenience, and having a lot of choices for an American-centric palate (which includes some ethnic foods that have been main-streamed.). Go into Wegman's and you are assured that you can please your family with dishes that take little time/effort to pull together but come off as being "gourmet". (No sarcasm here, just trying to capture the essence as of the positioning as I have tried to understand it.) Wegman's talks about prices but really does not deliver on that; what they DO deliver is excellent quality house brands, and ESPECIALLY proprietary products that are key to their "time saving" offering and make shopping there "sticky". Go into MB and you will find a broader range of ethnic items, prices that are much lower, and fewer frills.

                                        In some ways Wegman's seems to be trying to fit in between MB and Whole Foods. Given a Wegman's that is within easy driving range, I would shop at any of the three, depending on my purpose. So I expect they will compete, especially for the shopper who is looking for quality and/or choice.

                                        1. re: PinchOfSalt

                                          This is an excellent assessment. I shopped Market Basket Somerville this week. One of the things I noticed was that the produce section was more active and crowded that the prepared food aisles. What a nice thing to say about a customer base.

                                          Penny
                                          http://www.bostonzest.com/

                                          1. re: BostonZest

                                            And the fish counters of the newer MBs are fantastic. Better than Whole Foods (or at least the WFs I've purchased fish at).

                            2. Thank you all for the Wegmans/MB discussion.

                              Trapped in Dorchester I shop primarily at the North Quincy Stop and Shop which was once awesome and now is not.

                              I need to spread my wings.