The Vine in OB (that Ocean Beach in San Diego)
- Gayla Jun 16, 2006 10:33 PM
My first clue should have been the parking issue. Basically, there wasn't any. Of course, Wednesday is farmer's market day in OB and that was compounded by the onset of the unseasonably hot weather; I should have been prepared. But should have, would have, could have aren't in my lexicon, and like a typical San Diego native I just kept driving 'til I found a parking space. And, really I got lucky. Right in front of Qwiggs on Abbott, just a hop, skip and a jump over the surfers and bums was a spot big enough to squeeze the Jettamobile into. Finally.........10 years of parallel parking on the streets of San Francisco paid off!!
After sweating way around the farmer's market and buying 7 tomatoes and a pound of really cute fingerling potatoes for $10, I was ready for something more interesting than hummus and samosas. It used to be Cucina Fresca a perfectly respectable neighborhood Italian joint. Now, at the corner of Bacon and Niagara is The Vine, a wine bar that's been open a little over a year. Wine bar and OB don't seem like such a natural combination until you remember that all the hippies, bikers and outcasts have all grown up, raised families and become respectable, if not prosperous, members of the main stream. It was probably only a matter of time before a successful wine bar could put down roots.
But my oh my, what a wine bar this is. Sophisticated, airy and accented by dark wood furniture and wood slat blinds, The Vine is a comfortable neighborhood gathering spot for locals. The wine list is interesting and consists of mostly small producers of high quality wine. There are 3 different wine flight of 4-3 oz pours, all in the $17 range. Wines by the glass are plentiful and cover the usual reds and whites, and are augmented by sparklers and roses. I've been experimenting with Argentinian Malbecs for the last couple of years so I opted for the only one by the glass, and I wasn't disappointed. It was soft, mellow and altogether suave. My dining companion for the evening, the estimable Chilepm ordered a CA Petite Syrah which was still pretty raw and green, though drinkable. Just how drinkable it was became apparent as we worked our way through the menu.
We started with the olive sampler. What we got was a herd of olives, 2 of the green variety and 2 of the black. They were good, but not great, and we had, in fact, had better olives at the olive vendor at the farmers market just a block away.
We had much better luck with the chopped chicken liver, or as the menu called it Shannon's Super Sexy Pate. Whether it really was sexy or not I'm not sure. What it was, was really good. Soft, silken in texture and devoid of grainy or grittiness. Blessedly, the plate arrived with am ample supply of nicely crunchy crostini, along with some wafer thin slices of apple and beautifully ripe pear. This was an excellent dish and a very good rendition of chicken liver pate. But, to be honest, I think if they had hit with some caramelized onions and a splash or two of cognac it could have been transcendent.
The pate was followed by two of the best empanadas I think I've ever had. The remarkably light and flaky crust had been tinged with achiote which imparted a richly beautiful orange cast. The filling was a combination of minced beef and pork and chile powder. Raisins provided a haunting sweetness and a little hunk of cheese some creaminess. I would have also liked the empanadas to have had a little more filling, but with the crust being such a stellar rendition, I can let that go. There are 2 empanadas per serving and the plate comes adorned with lime crema and salsa verde (tomatillo salsa). The lime crema was okay and the salsa verde unbalanced. Tomatillos can be on the astringent side and this salsa needed a dash of something sweet to smooth out the rough edges. It didn't detract from the empanadas, but it didn't help them either. BTW, Chilepm thinks the salsa was just fine, I beg to differ. In either case it was a delicious dish and I would order it again.
The least successful dish of the night was the Veggie Gratin, and it was still good. The gratin dish was marred by the over-zealous use of nutmeg in the Gruyere cheese sauce that bound together layers of potato and leek. Not so much nutmeg that it ruined the dish, but enough to be annoying. The sauteed vegetables that accompanied the gratin were well done and still crispy.
We split a Fresh Berry Shortcake for dessert. Whoever is in the kitchen understands baking. The pastry crust for the empanadas had been flaky and tender, the biscuit used for the shortcake was feather-light and tender. It was filled with some of the luscious strawberries I had seen at the farmers market that had been macerated to perfect sweetness. However, the star of the dessert was the house-made (real) whipped cream flavored with Pedro Ximenex sherry. What an inspired combination of sherry, strawberries and cream.
Dishes are small, tapa-style plates, most of which are suitable for sharing. Assorted cheese boards, salads, soup and more substantial savory dishes complete the menu.
Service is casual, a little too casual even for the beach. It's definitely not intrusive or overwrought, just don't ask a lot of questions.
2 glasses of wine, 4 plates, 1 dessert, tax and tip set us back $60. If I lived closer I'd probably end up being a regular. I thought I never see it, but OB is going yuppie (jeez, I really hope not).
Haven't been to the Vine, but have become a regular at another wine bar/restaurant in OB Called The 3rd Corner. Have enjoyed all dishes here which are quite tasty and very reasonably priced. Nice ambience in the restaurant or at the bar.
I did a write up of this place in City Beat. Given my beer bent, I was more impressed by their beer selection. They have a lot of great craft beers on hand, a better selection than anyplace other than O'Brien's, Liars' Club, or Pizza Port.
I had a generally positive food experience there as well. Some hits, some misses. In the end, like you, if I lived in OB I'd go there all the time. Yet somehow it doesn't seem worth traveling to.
No, it may not be a destination, not much (food related) in San Diego really is. Is 3rd & Rampart really worth the trip for Tommy's? It's probably debatable, but tons of people have made the pilgramage to Tommy's, me included when I lived in L.A. It's all a matter of taste. Although with Tommy's some people might think it's a matter of priority.
Not everyone who goes to OB wants to go to Winston's,
Cheswicks or one of the other dive bars. And, let's face it, with only a few exceptions, the food in OB ranges from dreadful to okay with flashes of pretty good.
I went to The Vine not expecting much. The food was far better than I had anticipated, which was a very pleasant surprise. I'm pretty sure it wasn't just Sysco in a box. I liked the fact that it was devoid of much of the pretension and trendiness that sometimes plagues wine bars. I also liked that people were popping in and out with their kids, a group of women were thowing a party for a friend and a few wayward tourists had found a comfortable place to unwind after a day seeing the sights. Beach demographics tend to skew young, but all age groups were in and and all of them seemed pretty easy about it.
The Vine is what it is, and that's a pretty decent neighborhood place. Not everyone who ends up at the beach wants a fish taco - although South Beach's fish tacos usually fall into the pretty good category - or a hamburger the size of their head ;-).
hi Gayla, you posted this a while ago so I hope you get this. (Clearly I need to check chowhound more often.) I am the Shannon of the Super Sexy Pate and I am glad you liked it - it is my recipe that I've been making for years and I gave it to The Vine. Since I am now an uber-regular they put it on the menu and named it after me (and my blog.)
The Vine has been my home away from home since they opened and you are right, if you lived here you would be hanging out there all the time! I don't know what I did with myself before they opened. Next time you come down ask if I am around or if you see a woman with fuschia hair at the bar then that is probably me.
My favorites on the menu: the ahi tuna tartare, the Caesar salad with shrimp (ask for light dressing though unless you like A LOT), the hamburger, and the pork chop.
I have printed out your notes to bring down there in case they haven't seen them. See you at The Vine...
Just got back from The Vine and was pleasantly surprised. I mentioned in an earlier post that I had been going to 3rd Corner Wine Bar, also in OB, and had heard from the patrons there who had been to both that they preferred 3rd Corner....I might beg to differ. I found the wine by the glass, beer selection, and menu offerings quite a bit more extensive at The Vine (3rd Corner, also being a retail shop, encourages you to purchase bottles)....anyhow, I had the ceasar salad and a ahi tartar appetizer which were both excellent. The Vine seems to attract a younger crowd, but being a 47 year old who acts 27 I can go both ways. I will definitley try the pork chop, angus burger, and flank steak (surprisingly not offered at 3rd Corner) on my next visits and am happy that I now have a 2nd wine bar/bisto that I can visit in Ocean Beach....in fact, The Vine reminds me of a bistro in Portland, OR in the NW 23rd Avenue section. Impressed and will go back.
I've been to The Vine 2-3 times now, and each time has been a wonderful experience. I've had the flank steak, the burger, the bacon wrapped scallops, and everything was delicious. The wine selection is broad and moderately priced, and my husband was impressed with their Belgian beer selection as well. We definitely plan to return again soon!
I like the atmosphere at The Vine better than the 3rd Corner....and the service. The service is far more reliable and friendlier at The Vine.
The food...I'm not so sure about. I've had some real misses here...but willing to give it more chances.
I was in at The Vine a couple weeks ago and shared the Bacon Wrapped Scallops, Flat Iron Steak and Queso Fundido. The scallops were perfectly good with not a trace of rubberiness or chewiness. I would have like the bacon to be a little bit crisper but it was good match with the scallops. The flat iron was wonderful, perfectly cooked and served with some great blue cheese melting over the top. Is there a better combination than beef and blue :-) ?
But, I'm saving the best for last. The Vine's interpretation of Queso Fundido is unlike anything I've seen or eaten before. After the 1st and 2nd bites I wasn't so sure I liked it, by about the 4th or 5th bite I was in love with it. I'm not sure I remember everything in it now, but it was melted cheese (duh) that had been topped with raisins, green onions, some other items and a ton of corn kernels.
I think we also split the chocolate lava cake, which was okay. They've taken the shortcake off the menu, but I sure wish they'd bring it back, it was their best dessert.
And, sorry, I can remember what I ate, I can't remember what I drank :-D
I have eaten at the Vine and 3rd Corner about 6 times each and still really enjoy both. The Vine definitely has a great beer selection, 3rd Corner not so much. If we are walking around Newport we tend to go to The Vine. It is great if you aren't sure if you want entrees or just some snacks because of the variety on the menu. If we think we are going to want a bottle of wine (or more) we go to 3rd corner. I have always had good food at 3rd corner, and most of the time the Vine has been excellent. I have had the flat iron steak twice and both times it was cooked perfectly. Both have a lot to offer if you are in the area, and both have real food compared to bread and cheese like most SD wine bars.
We are 3rd corner regulars... Went to the Vine once when it first opened and have not been back. We've discussed the fact that we've heard, like 3rd Corner, The Vine has gotten better.
I recommend the 3rd corner to people all the time we love the Staff/service - they retain the servers for longer than you see at most restaurants which helps knowing your customers and just for the wine parings and knowledge of the menu.
Anyone notice that OBistro is starting to compete too? With their bar selection and late night menu, AND brunch!
Around the corner from 3rd corner - on Voltaire between Bacon and Cable.
Huge patio (more outdoor seating than indoor) and very friendly staff, the owner is a little quirky but goes out of her way to make sure the guests are comfortable.
food is pretty good - not amazing, but it has brunch -which 3rd Corner and Casa Vino Don't.