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Ruthie hates pumpkin pie. And sweet potato pie. Convince her otherwise, please!

Ruthie789 has posed a challenge in her Red Velvet Cake epiphany thread. She dislikes sweet potato and pumpkin pies. I don't know if I can convince her otherwise, but I may shoot a Bean Pie recipe over to her, and see what she thinks of it.
It's been fun to see Ruthie bake variations of the RV cake. I'd love to see what she does with creamy pies.

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  1. I also hate pumpkin pie, but I have been making this recipe from Epicurious for the last few years at Thanksgiving and it is pretty universally loved. I've tasted it myself and although it's still nothing I want to waste stomach space on, it's much better than any other pumpkin pie I've had.

    http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/foo...

    I use a little less sugar than called for and add a couple of spoons of maple syrup. I think the sour cream and low number of eggs (two instead of the usual three) make for a denser texture, which I prefer. I also like the seasoning they call for (no cloves).

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    1. re: biondanonima

      Many of my family members absolutely love pumpkin pie. I will cook one up and serve it to them and try a piece. Maybe for Easter dinner, the Bourbon sounds good.

    2. The thing I dislike about squash pies is the texture. If it were more creamy and custardy, it might be OK, or if it's more firm like a cheesecake, I find it more palatable. But if it tastes like you just took some pureed vegetables, made them sweet, and mixed in a few eggs... no thanks. So I would suggest a recipe with a non-squashy texture if she dislikes them for the same reason.

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      1. re: Pia

        I make my pumpkin pie with roasted pumpkin, not puréed, so the texture is less creamy. It isn't al dente, but it has more 'tooth' to it than canned pumpkin does.

          1. re: Pia

            what about pumpkin cheesecake which I adore?

          2. Hate is a strong word, applied to food only in terms of cocoanut IMO. Still, this is one (or two) of those 'let's make the best of limited available ingredients" recipes. If I can obtain/afford tastier ingredients and an improved spice taste profile...

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            1. re: mwhitmore

              Hi, mwhitmore: "Hate is a strong word..."

              Yes it is, and inconstant. Yet variable. ;)

              IMO, there are many foods--and preparations of it--that folks come to "hate". As a child, I too "hated" pumpkin pie. But I like it now (mass-produced bakery crusts under it I still dislike). I also hated lutefisk, asparagus and stewed tomatoes. Pickled herring or Spanish mackerel? Limberger cheese? Fresh octopus? No way then. Like it now.

              This thread, like the recent "salmon" ones, is instructive. Can we Hounds account for changes in palate, changes in preparation? Can we keep open Chow minds? Are we willing to credit *the food* at least as much as we credit our food "hate" memories?

              I have my own closed corners, kidney pie among them. But I like to think that I can keep an open mind, and the fork is pretty easy to put down for another year to see if things change or I'm offered a nicer preparation.

              IMO, we should all be grateful to *have* food. The least we should do is keep an open mind, and try.

              Aloha,
              Kaleo

              1. re: kaleokahu

                Well, to quote the old movie "Gilda": "Hate is a very exciting emotion. Haven't you noticed?" Excitement thus leading to the possibility of a change of direction in the emotion......

                1. re: kaleokahu

                  I am grateful for each morsel on my plate. If I am at someone's house they do not know of my preferences.

                  1. re: kaleokahu

                    Yes, we should all be grateful. And I guess I don't *hate* cocoanut, as long as I don't have to eat it.

                2. Since she hates both pumpkin AND sweet potato pie, I would love to see her on Totally Biased.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHHphv...

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                  1. re: ratgirlagogo

                    I would relish the chance to be one of the testers!

                  2. I do not like the mushy texture of these pies, now if there was a way to hide that perhaps I could be convinced. Also wondering what dislikes that others of common recipes. I do like the spices in the pumpkin pies.

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                    1. re: Ruthie789

                      I'm with you Ruthie, I don't like either, and it's definitely the texture that I don't like. The flavors are fine, and I love all those "autumny" spices.

                      1. re: Ruthie789

                        I have a recipe for a great pumpkin cake, Ruthie!

                        1. re: jmcarthur8

                          I would do a cake but not sure about the pie. Do the spices hide the taste of the pumpkin?

                          1. re: Ruthie789

                            No, it's definitely pumpkin cake, but it's light... Not heavy like pumpkin bread. Is the flavor of pumpkin okay for you?

                            1. re: jmcarthur8

                              I would try it I hear pumpkin is supposed to be good for you. I did make pumpkin muffins awhile ago total disaster.

                      2. How do you feel about savory renditions of squash and pumpkin?

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                        1. re: sr44

                          Nay, nay. However I do like sweet potato mixed in with the mashed potatoes.

                        2. Eating something you don't like is like have sex with someone you find repulsive.

                          There are too many foods in this life that make my mouth water to waste time on those that don't.

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                          1. re: Brandon Nelson

                            And there are TV dinners to be safe.

                          2. Ruthie is right, leave her alone. People are allowed to dislike things, even if they are the epitome of that food.

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                            1. re: KaimukiMan

                              Kaimuki, Ruthie just about double dog dared me! She knows it's all in fun!

                              1. re: jmcarthur8

                                Absolutely it goes back to an original thread on what is the fuss about Red Velvet cake. Some convincing by the Chounders has me liking the cake so maybe I can be convinced about the pies!

                                1. re: Ruthie789

                                  OK.

                                  I'm not fond of the taste of pumpkin. It really doesn't matter what you add or don't add after that point, I'm probably not going to like it. People seem intent on convincing me that I really do like pumpkin. I've had some excellent pumpkin pie. I could tell by the texture, by the way the spices complimented rather than overpowered the pumpkin. The fact remains that I just don't like the taste of pumpkin. People seem to have a hard time comprehending that. It's like a kid saying they don't like ice cream. But there are some who don't.

                                  I wish you luck finding pumpkin pie you do enjoy.

                                  1. re: KaimukiMan

                                    I think I might be of the same opinion. It's the wet texture that does not appeal to me.

                            2. Also am wondering what dislikes others have on baked goods and perhaps we can use this thread to convince them as well.

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                              1. re: Ruthie789

                                I also dislike pumpkin pie for the most part. However, I do like it when made with fresh, not canned long neck pumpkin and with cinnamon only. I do not care for the other spices in my pumpkin pie. I used to hate puréed sweet potatoes in general but I had sweet potato pie after starting to like them so I am no help there. My favorite pumpkin recipe is for pumpkin chocolate chip cookies ( it is a sort cake like cookie). Both pumpkin recipes are online on the blog Inused to write. Just google Melbo's Toast and the recipe name. CH does not allow me to post links for them and it is too hard to copy and paste on my Smartphone.

                                1. re: Ruthie789

                                  I can't think of one single baked good that I don't like! That is, as long as it's homemade. I'm not a lover of factory made baked goods.

                                  1. re: jmcarthur8

                                    As I learnt with the RV cake homemade is so much better. I have never had a homemade version of the pies so am sure that is part of the dislike.

                                    1. re: Ruthie789

                                      Oh my goodness, Ruthie! Can I come to your house and bake for you?

                                      1. re: jmcarthur8

                                        I wish someone would bake for me! I am the only cook in the family really assigned to all tasks and special ocassions.

                                      2. re: Ruthie789

                                        In most cases I would agree, of course homemade is better and maybe even revelatory. I'm not however convinced with pumpkin pie - which I do like, once a year! There's a quote from a famous chef or just someone very wise that the difference between the best pumpkin pie and the worst pumpkin pie is not all that much. Of course there are tweaks to he basic recipe, and someone who can't for example abide cloves might love a plainer pie much more than a spicier one, but they are all really very similar IMHO.

                                    2. re: Ruthie789

                                      I don't like banana bread. I don't like bananas in general though so I'm not sure I could be convinced to like banana bread. Also not too fond of fruit pies, although I don't mind apple pie. Oh, and not real into blueberries being baked into things...muffins etc... but the blueberry muffins I make are really good, according to my SO.

                                      1. re: juliejulez

                                        You mean I`m not the only one who thinks blueberries are overrated? In Quebec it is such a big food trend everyone makes such a fuss over blueberry muffins or pancakes. Maybe you would like fruit crisps better than a fruit pie?

                                        1. re: Ruthie789

                                          Oh yes I love fruit crisps, apple crisp is one of my favorite desserts. I think I don't like blueberry or cherry pie because of the filling texture... too gooey or something.

                                          And yes, not a blueberry fan in general... when I make blueberry muffins for SO I always make a plain one for myself :)

                                          Oh and BTW, I made pumpkin pie at Thanksgiving, from scratch. Still didn't eat it :)

                                          1. re: juliejulez

                                            Congrats on the pumpkin pie from scratch.

                                            1. re: Ruthie789

                                              I know one thing, if it's made from canned pumpkin, the filling is going to be creamy. As I said up thread, fresh roasted pumpkin- not puréed - is what I like in my pumpkin pie. It has texture and body. And I go easy on the cloves... Not my favorite taste.

                                              1. re: jmcarthur8

                                                JM, I just might attempt a sweet potato pie, I don`t know if I would do the pumpkin but always have the sweet potatoes in the house. I have to be in a pie-making mode, no pun intended but will give this a try.

                                                1. re: Ruthie789

                                                  Ruthie,
                                                  Sweet potato pie is like a Southern sweet potato casserole without the marshmallows, and with crust (and I love both of those!)
                                                  I made a sweet potato cheesecake once that was delicious - I think this was it:

                                                  http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ta...

                                                  I remember using gingersnap cookies for the crumb crust and that worked really well.

                                    3. How about a "gateway" recipe?
                                      Not pie, but--
                                      Does Ruthie like chocolate?
                                      Would Ruthie buy a box cake mix?

                                      Get a chocolate cake mix that has "moist" in its name and sub ALL add ins [egg, oil, water] with a can of canned pumpkin OR canned pumpkin pie mix.
                                      Mix well and QUICKLY-- the batter will be really thick and will just get stiffer.
                                      Expect the cake to rise more than average, so you may want to use two pans.
                                      Excellent with frosting made of milk-thinned cream cheese or even the tub of cream-cheese-frosting.