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J Sheridan Mar 21, 2013 02:44 AM

I eat a lot of yogurt and am quite fussy about it. I have never managed to find here the type I like which is quite easy to find in France,especially in farmers markets but also in good supermarkets. It's somewhat watery but set, with a very thin creamy top layer and is a bit sour.
I have tried to make it, following Nigel Slater's recipe, but ended up with liquid milk with a few thicker patches, and not at all sour.

Tips for making and/or buying please. I live in south London.

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  1. howler RE: J Sheridan Mar 21, 2013 04:56 AM

    have you tried beilelvaire on montpelier street?


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      lacemaker RE: J Sheridan Mar 21, 2013 09:18 AM

      I think you'd get something very similar with turkish youghurt - Gazi brand with 10% fat is pretty good. It's definitely got the set consistency you're looking for, though it may not be quite as sour.

      Any turkish/middle eastern supermarket will sell it to you - are you anywhere near St James Rd and Grange Rd, south of bermondsey tube?

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        J Sheridan RE: J Sheridan Mar 22, 2013 10:55 AM

        Thanks, Howler, the Montpelier Street shop is a delight. The yogurt isn't quite right but it's very good and though expensive does come in lovely little glass jars.

        Lacemaker, I live in Battersea so not really near Bermondsey but I will try to find a Turkish shop. I do think Middle Eastern ones may hit the spot.

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          howler RE: J Sheridan Mar 23, 2013 04:28 AM

          you are welcome. did you try the fromage frais? delish.

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          Theresa RE: J Sheridan Mar 22, 2013 07:10 PM

          I'm a bit confused as to what it is you're after - the yoghurt you describe is in someways what I have always found in France - i.e. set, but watery - and this is like the bog-standard plain yoghurt found everywhere in the UK. But I've never found French yoghurt with a creamy top layer. And it's difficult to find Turkish-type yoghurt in France.

          I have found yoghurt with a slightly yellower top layer and a sour taste in British middle eastern shops though - the one I'm thinking of was Lebanese I think. Not sure I'd describe it as watery though!

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            Harters RE: Theresa Mar 27, 2013 08:29 AM

            I'm curious about the "watery" - something I've never noticed in either supermarket yoghurt or the versions I buy from Middle Eastern/South Asian shops. Liquid, certainly (if it's not Greek, or Greek style, yoghurt) but not watery.

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              Theresa RE: Harters Mar 27, 2013 10:29 AM

              The watery one I was describing is available everywhere in Liverpool - it's made by Dale Farm, which is local - so, as I've spent all of my adult life here, I may be wrong and it might not available elsewhere. When you open it, there is usually a bit of watery looking liquid on the top of a pretty solid looking (but actually low fat and thin tasting) yoghurt. It isn't very nice to eat as it is, as it isn't creamy at all, but it's great for making curries with and making curry pastes.

              Another I've been getting more recently is made by Lancashire Farm (live whole milk natural yoghurt - so more creamy than the other one). And it's not really "set". So it's more liquid, but not watery!

              We'll get to the bottom of it, even if it kills me ...

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                Harters RE: Theresa Mar 27, 2013 10:39 AM

                Lancashire Farm is a belter of a yoghurt. It's the one in all my local "ethnic" shops. I think they also do a fully set one, as well

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            J Sheridan RE: J Sheridan Mar 27, 2013 10:13 AM

            Well, it's hard to describe - more of a curds and whey effect but not quite. I have found a Turkish shop locally so will try there.

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              J Sheridan RE: J Sheridan Mar 28, 2013 05:48 AM

              The French yogurts I yearn for are made in small glass pots. I don't think you can find Lancashire farm yogurts here in London, Harters.
              I have just discovered an Eastern European/Turkish shop close to where I live, in Clapham Junction, which has a fine selection of Turkish and Cypriot yogurts which I will work my way through. I suspect that part of the secret though is setting in the pot.

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                Harters RE: J Sheridan Mar 28, 2013 08:27 AM

                Google tells me it's stocked by ASDA so that might be the best bet "dahn sarf". Although by way of swapsies, I wish I could get Cypriot yoghurt "oop north".

              2. babybat RE: J Sheridan Mar 28, 2013 10:39 AM

                Have you tried the French butter/yogurt stall at Borough market? Not cheap, but very tasty: http://www.realfrance.co.uk/Yoghurts....

                On a more affordable note, I really rate the Greek yogurt they sell in Lidl - brand is Eridanous and it's usually under £2 for a 1kg tub. Whole milk better than the low fat.

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