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Teddybear Mar 20, 2013 02:24 PM

I'm losing too much weight -- I was 103 when I started two weeks ago, 99 today. I'm only 5 ft and small framed, but that is too thin and I don't want the drop to continue.

I'm averaging about 105 mg/dl an hour after eating. Waking is anywhere from 92 to 110.

So my thought is to start eating more nuts, meat and cheese and see what happens. But if anyone has a good suggestion, I'd be happy to hear it.

  1. lynnlato Mar 23, 2013 11:05 AM

    I'm confused, I assume you are diabetic, but are you type 1 or type 2? It sounds like type 1 but I'm not certain based on your post. Generally, with type 1, you gain a couple of pounds once your bg starts to stabilize. Your readings are great, but like mcf said under 140 one hour post meal is good. Are you testing at night? Generally speaking, with type 1, if you're rapidly losing weight your bg would be running high.

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      mcf Mar 23, 2013 11:21 AM

      I believe he's said "pre" diabetic. IIRC.

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        lynnlato Mar 23, 2013 02:23 PM

        Oh, maybe in a previous thread. I didn't see it in these posts.

        @Teddybear, your fingers will toughen up. I test 10-12 times (or more if I'm starting a new fitness routine)a day and have done so for 15 years (I'm type 1) and my fingers aren't sore at all. Just make sure to rotate fingers. Testing is the best way to know where you are.

        I think it's great that you are so determined to get an "A" from your doctor. Good for you! I am a mentor for the JDRF (mentoring newly diagnosed type 1's) and I encourage a similar mindset. Best of luck to you!

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          Teddybear Mar 23, 2013 03:27 PM

          Thanks so much -- I appreciate the help and good wishes!

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        Teddybear Mar 23, 2013 12:59 PM

        Prediabetic according to the doctor -- As far as night testing goes, I test an hour after dinner, sometimes at 2 hours or more depending on what I ate. And I've been testing when I get up, and a hour after eating breakfast and lunch, trying out ingredients to see what works.

        When I went to the gym yesterday, weight remained the same, so I was happy about that.

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        Teddybear Mar 22, 2013 06:03 AM

        Thanks mcf -- it's just so frustrating. As I try to solve one problem I cause another!

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          mcf Mar 22, 2013 06:31 AM

          Not necessarily the case here, too early. And truly, the biggest problem to solve in terms of continued health is the blood glucose one, and you've really done well. :-)

          Before you start eating more, wait and see if you find that the loss stops and your body recomposes; more lean body mass to fat ratio.

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            Teddybear Mar 23, 2013 10:48 AM

            Another testing question -- lunch today was salad veggies and salmon that usually tests well; I wanted to try half a grapefruit but that brought the 60 minute test to 118 -- I know that meets the under 120 on the test, test, test website, but it seems too high to me as I'm trying to keep things under 110 So I guess the question is, are the vitamins worth the rise? My inclination is to say no, since I'm eating so many veggies.

            Thanks for all your good advice!

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              mcf Mar 23, 2013 10:55 AM

              120 is for two hours, right? The one hour number is the usual spike and while *I* personally shoot for 120 or below, most folks I know aim for under 140 at one hour. Give yourself some breathing room.

              You have some leeway here; either experiment by reducing the grapefruit portion size, and if that doesn't work, save fruits and any extra carbs for after 3-4 p.m.

              You don't say what your pre meal glucose was; if the grapefruit spiked you 30 points, yeah, not for lunch, or if you had any starchy veggies with it. If it was a mild bump from, say, 100 to only 118, a terrific number, I would not sweat it at all, just enjoy!

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                Teddybear Mar 23, 2013 01:07 PM

                Thanks -- you're right, 120 is for 2 hrs.

                I guess I am treating this like school: I want to get an A so I am shooting for a very low reading. I did have some broccoli in the salad. I didn't test before lunch but a couple of hours earlier it had been 92 (after breakfast).

                Can't wait until I've figured things out better and can give my poor fingers a rest!

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                  mcf Mar 23, 2013 02:18 PM

                  It's just a lot of testing in the beginning for type 2. I go weeks and months without testing, knowing what I can eat and what spikes me. I test new foods, and old ones now and then to make sure I'm still okay with them, but not intensively the way you are now.

                  If you want to take a rest from it and do a day or two of intensive testing per week to spare yourself, you have good enough control and info to keep things pretty safe.

        2. mcf Mar 21, 2013 08:18 AM

          When you start low carbing, the first 10 lbs or so are usually mostly water weight, so I wouldn't sweat it, it will slow down. Each stored glycogen molecule is attached to three water molecules, and they get whooshed out in the first 10-14 days.

          You may find you need to use some blended lite salt to replace your electrolytes for a while as a result.

          Expect it to slow, and to retain your lean body mass/muscle as water and fat are lost first and foremost.

          I lost 10 lbs of bloat in the first ten days, years ago, and anytime I have some starch, I bloat 3-5 lbs that I lose again immediately upon cutting back down.

          Those are great numbers, btw, keep it going and you'll avoid progression and problems!

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            Teddybear Apr 4, 2013 09:37 AM

            Glad to say that my weight seems to have stablized, a little lower, but it's not going down.

            But I had what to me was a surprising reading this morning. After a fasting bg reading of 100, I ate a larger breakfast than usual: a good sized grilled chicken thigh and a good sized portion of sauteed veggies -- squash, peppers, onions, mushrooms.

            Reading was as high as oatmeal -- 140-and it took about 3 hours to come down to 118. Generally I get 96 to 110 readings an hour after breakfast.

            I presume it was the amount of food I ate because it was pretty low carb, but what do I know?

            Testing, 1, 2, 3, Testing

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              mcf Apr 4, 2013 02:17 PM

              Well, that's a big meal for morning. From the things you've mentioned, the veggies that might not budge you at dinner may have been too much for the a.m. The onions can be pretty high in sugar if you have a substantial quantity, which is easy to do when they're cooked.

              Surprising it took so long to come down. Keep notes about it, so you can compare it if the test results are ever the same.

              No food residue on your fingers when you tested?

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                Teddybear Apr 4, 2013 02:51 PM

                Hadn't thought of that but no, I always wash my hands first. I was surprised, too. And relieved that after my late lunch (took a while to get hungry again!), things looked a whole lot better.

                I'm glad I checked though since I would not have predicted these breakfast results -- I've eaten cheese and veggies (but probably w/o onions) with no problem at all.

                Thanks, as always, for your good advice.

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                  mcf Apr 4, 2013 02:53 PM

                  Best to wash hands with warm water and soap, never use alcohol wipes, test after a good rinsing and drying. Food residue can raise the number a LOT.

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