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10 Best Eats In Monterey Park

Chandavkl Mar 9, 2013 06:30 PM

JThur01 did this top ten for L.A. Weekly. But really with all of the good restaurants there, we should also add honorable mentions. I'll start with Qingdao Bread Food, Seafood Village and Mama's Lu Dumpling.

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  1. ipsedixit RE: Chandavkl Mar 9, 2013 07:12 PM

    Dorados and Bollini's are glaring omissions.

    Not worthy of honorable mention. Should be in Top 10.

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      sel RE: ipsedixit Mar 9, 2013 09:45 PM

      Dorados?

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        ipsedixit RE: sel Mar 9, 2013 09:48 PM

        Yes.

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          Mr. Roboto RE: sel Mar 9, 2013 09:56 PM

          Dorados Ceviche Bar is in the former space where Fleur De Lys Patisserie was located (440 S. Atlantic Blvd., MP)

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          Johnny L RE: ipsedixit Mar 10, 2013 04:16 AM

          No point, Dorados is going out of business March 31st.

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            bulavinaka RE: Johnny L Mar 10, 2013 07:46 AM

            Bummer. We usually grab three or four large containers of ceviches for an easy and tasty dinner at home. I'm going to miss their pulpo ceviche.

            Fleur de Lys did a nice job on that little building but that location and lay of the land are a little odd. Seems the "something unique to the area" concept doesn't work in that space.

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              granadafan RE: Johnny L Mar 10, 2013 10:39 AM

              Well that stinks. I'll have to go there one more time before it closes.

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              ns1 RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 01:34 PM

              driven by numerous times but never stopped by. What's a "must have" @ Dorados?

              //edit

              n/m, I see it's closing...

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                ipsedixit RE: ns1 Mar 11, 2013 02:08 PM

                Well, if you go before month's end, get the ceviche, but bring your own bag of corn chips.

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                  bulavinaka RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 04:24 PM

                  Yeah, the tostada shells score, "Lack of Effort" to me. I stop by Whole Foods and get their tortilla chips made in-house. They're pretty studly chips that hold up well to any dipping or scooping imaginable.

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                    ipsedixit RE: bulavinaka Mar 11, 2013 04:26 PM

                    Smart move.

                    Too bad the nearest Whole Foods is like ~5 miles away, which means it's like 30 minutes of drive time.

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                  bulavinaka RE: ns1 Mar 11, 2013 04:20 PM

                  The pulpo and aguachile are tops in my book. The shrimp is pretty good as well.

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                    andytseng RE: ns1 Mar 11, 2013 11:51 PM

                    If it's not too far for you, it's still a nice place to get some ceviche if the mood ever strikes you. I think the only things worth getting are the ceviches... They usually have 4-5 in the window, and you can just sample all of them before you purchase.

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                      Johnny L RE: ns1 Mar 12, 2013 12:10 AM

                      My personal favorite is the ecuadorian. Also their fish tacos aren't bad at all.

                  2. blimpbinge RE: Chandavkl Mar 9, 2013 07:27 PM

                    I haven't had good (food) experiences at #3 and #6. Maybe I went on their off days. Will try again.

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                      TonyC RE: blimpbinge Mar 10, 2013 06:19 PM

                      I loathe the term, but Yoma has the "b"est commercially available Burmese food in California, if not the United States. Besides the danpauk (biriyani) of course; that's almost inedible.

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                        blimpbinge RE: TonyC Mar 10, 2013 08:45 PM

                        for some reason i thought #3 was daw yee.. nvm.

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                          suvro RE: TonyC Mar 13, 2013 04:02 PM

                          Went to Yoma for lunch today. Place was mostly empty, but the hostess was very warm, and we will go back.

                          I had the Thai Iced Tea to start.

                          We started with the tea leaves salad, which was very good. It had a great deal of crunchy texture from the nuts, nicely tart from the lime juice, and while the tea leaves provided a different texture, I could not get much of a "tea" flavor - but perhaps that is to be expected since the tea flavor comes from the fermentation and drying process. This was a hit.

                          We ordered the fried shrimp dish, which was very good. When ordering she mentioned that the shrimp had its shell to provide some crunch, and this was not a problem. It came in a nicely spicy sauce with a touch of sweetness. Great dish.

                          The Mohinga - fish soup with rice noodles - was slightly disappointing. She ladled it out into two bowls with a sprinkling of the dried chilli and asked us to squeeze lime juice before we ate. This was my first time tasting Mohinga, which I was curious about seeing it on Luke Nguyen's Greater Mekong TV program. The soup is very thick, almost like a pureed lentil soup, and it was not very spicy.

                          Since I wanted to change the taste, we later ordered another dish - I was looking at the beef curry, but she suggested a chicken with vegetables - I did not look at the menu to now report what specific dish. It was also OK - somewhat blander, though with a hint of sourness.

                          Since I am originally from Calcutta, we got to talk about some shared aspects (from my friends who grew up in Rangoon when it was part of undivided India). The woman in the front is Kachin - and last time she visited Myanmar was 10 years ago! Now she says she has no time to go while running the restaurant.

                          I am looking forward to going back and trying their other dishes. Thanks for the tip!

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                            TonyC RE: suvro Mar 14, 2013 01:30 PM

                            suvro, you made me weep with joy.

                            If every reader of Chow/LA hits Yoma, I'd stop mouthing off on the board, forever.

                            Instead of going to Spice Table looking for Asian food, or Night Market looking for authenticity (with that wine pairing, natch), people should really just go to Yoma and/or Cancoon Thai.

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                              linus RE: TonyC Mar 14, 2013 02:42 PM

                              are there people who go to spice table looking for asian food? or night market looking for authenticity?
                              isn't it possible they just want something good to eat without having to drive to freakin' bellflower?

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                                Ciao Bob RE: TonyC Mar 14, 2013 03:08 PM

                                Tony - no likee Night Market? I think it is quite good.
                                I do wish they would broaden the palate/menu a bit (how many sour pork bits and pieces with fishy sauces can one eat at the same time?) but what it does, I think it does well.

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                          JThur01 RE: Chandavkl Mar 10, 2013 12:30 PM

                          Again, please don't take "Top 10"s so literally. They're highly, highly subjective.

                          Qingdao Bread Food and Mama's Lu are definitely right in there, and would fit a Chinese only Monterey Park Top 10, except I was going for variety. I went with the matriarch over the daughter for dumplings. For the same reason, Cook's over Dorados and Elite over Seafood Village. YMMV.

                          I mentioned several more that could have been on the list, trying to give a full portrait of what all is available in Monterey Park, but that got cut for length. Bollini's was foremost of those and sushi and ramen options were mentioned as well.

                          I also tried to come up with a few "out of the norm" to go with the "norm". I don't know how successful I was on that point. How many of you were aware of Wok BBQ or Yoma? (I have to thank and credit TonyC for making me aware of them).

                          I truly dislike doing "Top" 10s, but it's about the only option available right now. Thanks for at least being gentle with me :)

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                            Chandavkl RE: JThur01 Mar 10, 2013 12:36 PM

                            Having been pounded mercilessly over penning a Top 10 list (9 or 10 pages of brickbats and insults on another message board) I know how difficult it is.

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                              bulavinaka RE: JThur01 Mar 10, 2013 12:43 PM

                              We had a very enjoyable meal at Easy Earthen last night. This was my first dinner in the Eastern portion of the San Gabriel Valley area. Looks like there's a ton of places to eat out there. Any chance you'll be doing "recon" work out that way?

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                                Chandavkl RE: bulavinaka Mar 10, 2013 12:55 PM

                                I seem to recall a fair amount of commentary from him out of Rowland Heights. And he travels so far just to get to Monterey Park that the incremental distance to Rowland Heights is relatively short.

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                                  JThur01 RE: bulavinaka Mar 10, 2013 01:05 PM

                                  I've made several recon trips in the RH/HH area, and managed a few pieces out of them, including Earthen/Easy Earthen and 85 Degrees opening. That area is under reported, but the high points seem to emerge (Silk Road Garden, Earthen, Chuan Ma, etc.). It's an extra 30-40 minutes for me, but I've always enjoyed what I've found in the area.

                                  At the moment, I'm just hoping to be writing about something...somewhere.

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                                    blimpbinge RE: JThur01 Mar 10, 2013 01:30 PM

                                    "How many of you were aware of Wok BBQ or Yoma?"

                                    Being from the area, I was aware :D

                                    I also have not been to the RH/HH/DB area enough... new places seem to open there more often than i'm actually present over there. One of the reasons is that I find the traffic/parking situations to be even worse than the 626

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                                      JThur01 RE: blimpbinge Mar 11, 2013 10:50 AM

                                      "How many of you were aware of Wok BBQ or Yoma?"

                                      Oops...didn't think about the room on that one :D

                                      Until Gale becomes a full-fledged Garvey to Colima's Valley, the traffic and parking in RH/HH/CoI will likely continue to be very concentrated. Strangely, I haven't had much of an issue with parking there.

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                                        ipsedixit RE: JThur01 Mar 11, 2013 10:52 AM

                                        I believe there was actually a Chow LA meetup at Yoma a while back.

                                        I think just because a place isn't mentioned on the boards doesn't mean that the 'Hounds aren't aware of it. Sometimes, there's just no real need to mention another boba place hawking Taiwanese street food, right?

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                                          JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 11:25 AM

                                          Yeah, I plead fatigue in just plain forgetting where I was replying to. Know your room! Usually I do...this time, not so much.

                                          Yes, CH is great at sorting through the non-descript or those that aren't unique. Also for spotting standout versions of common dishes.

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                                      bulavinaka RE: JThur01 Mar 10, 2013 01:33 PM

                                      JThur01 and Chandavkl,

                                      Thanks - I will search for these past pieces. That East Valley area looks like an untapped gold mine from my perspective as an outsider.

                                      And as an outsider, viable lists like yours are a very helpful guide in sorting out the wealth of food options in any given eatery-dense neighborhood like Monterey Park. Chow is a very detail-oriented site with loads of great input from many legit contributors, but it's awful when seeking out quick concise info - which is exactly what your list has - when venturing into a neighborhood. I personally appreciate them as I'm sure many do.

                                      >>At the moment, I'm just hoping to be writing about something...somewhere.<<

                                      It saddens me to see statements like this. Good honest journalism has been in flux for a number of years now, and the cutbacks have often been in areas that I found most interesting. Every paper and news site will be reporting the same stuff on Afghanistan, the political scenes, the weather, etc. What really sets apart a paper worth buying versus a clone rag are the sections, columns and features that the others aren't doing. Truly talented folks with passion and curiosity like you are treasures in my eyes. Without the contributions from folks like you, I am forced to look elsewhere for those pieces of interest. I have to think that I'm not the only one with this perspective. What the business side of the media sees as cutting back at the edges is really nixing the spice of life.

                                      I don't know if you've seen the HBO series, "The Wire," the best series I've ever had a chance to watch. The fifth season focuses a fair amount on the issues facing newspapers and good solid journalism. If you haven't, it's worth a look. Thanks again.

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                                        odub RE: bulavinaka May 20, 2013 12:12 AM

                                        The news room depictions in that season were universally hated by every working journalist I know (myself included). There are ways to dramatize the tensions happening in many newspapers today but that was just insanely over-the-top, stocked with caricatures rather than characters and clearly seemed like Simon was on the vendetta trail. I have several friends at the LA Times - a clusterf--- of a newspaper right now - but their internal problems are a lot more mundane and hardly the stuff that "The Wire" focused on. But seriously, please don't use that sorry excuse for a plotline as any kind of depiction of what a contemporary news room looks like!

                                        As for the LA Weekly, I sympathize with the author. I know enough about the internals there to understand the kinds of compromises that most of the writers there have to undergo, both in terms of pay and editorial pressures.

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                                          bulavinaka RE: odub May 20, 2013 09:15 AM

                                          "The Wire," was a DRAMA series - never said it was 100% gospel. Season Five was an interesting take on the changing culture and status of a city's paper that seems to be emblematic of so much of the media in the US. You might find this NPR interview of David Folkenflik who worked at The Sun with David Simon:

                                          http://www.npr.org/templates/story/st...

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                                            TonyC RE: bulavinaka May 20, 2013 10:47 AM

                                            thread, derailed.

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                                              bulavinaka RE: TonyC May 20, 2013 11:47 AM

                                              Sorry - I usually order a quick noodle dish at Kam Hong while waiting for my to-go order at Beijing Pie House.

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                                      ipsedixit RE: bulavinaka Mar 10, 2013 06:56 PM

                                      Give Jim some slack.

                                      He's barely touched WSGV, as this is only the Top 10 for Monterey Park. He still has Alhambra, Arcadia, San Gabriel, etc. to recon before he gets to ESGV ...

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                                        bulavinaka RE: ipsedixit Mar 10, 2013 07:53 PM

                                        Sorry, but what did I say that dissed Jim?

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                                          ipsedixit RE: bulavinaka Mar 10, 2013 08:00 PM

                                          I didn't say you dissed Jim.

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                                          JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 10:52 AM

                                          Thanks bulavinaka, I try...

                                          ipse, it's been successful enough on those terms. Clarissa did Arcadia. I dunno about doing the others. That's a lot of recon (even if I have eaten extensively in each of those).

                                          You left out Temple City :D

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                                            ipsedixit RE: JThur01 Mar 11, 2013 10:53 AM

                                            If you did a Top 10 of Temple City, you might top out at 8.

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                                              JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 11:22 AM

                                              Eh, close enough and keeps the overhead lower :-)

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                                                raytamsgv RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 01:41 PM

                                                Maybe that's intentional--8 is a lucky number, after all. :-)

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                                                  ipsedixit RE: raytamsgv Mar 11, 2013 02:07 PM

                                                  Ok, let's give it a whirl.

                                                  My modest proposal at a Top 10 in Temple City (in no particular order):

                                                  Dai Ho
                                                  New Mandarin Noodle Deli
                                                  Seafood Village
                                                  Golden Deli
                                                  Ish
                                                  Banana Leaf
                                                  Mama Petrillo's
                                                  Cloverleaf (yes, it's a coffee shop, but still ...)
                                                  B20
                                                  Old Country Cafe

                                                  Some explanatory notes before the furor starts:
                                                  -No chains (ergo no The Hat and no In N Out)
                                                  -The omission of Happy Noodle and House of Mandarin Noodle were intentional as I think New Mandarin Noodle Deli is better than both.
                                                  - Eden Thai and Casa Del Rey are disgusting, even by Temple City standards.

                                                  There, have at it ...

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                                                    bulavinaka RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 04:18 PM

                                                    Cloverleaf might be a coffee shop, but they are a very good one that does coffee justice. The baked goods are worthy as well. O always get plenty extra to take home.

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                                                      ipsedixit RE: bulavinaka Mar 11, 2013 04:25 PM

                                                      Nowadays, with the (over)expansion of 85C, I think Cloverleaf has nosed out 85C as best Chinese bakery.

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                                                        bulavinaka RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 05:26 PM

                                                        Oh My Pan in San Gabriel is top tier too - they make a serious effort in making the drinks.

                                                        Have you tried Flour and Tea in Pasadena? Their baked goods are great IMHO, but they only do tea drinks that are more or less somewhat traditional - focusing on quality. Not a bad thing - just not typical Taiwanese boba milk tea stuff.

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                                                        TonyC RE: bulavinaka Mar 11, 2013 04:41 PM

                                                        Cloverleaf stopped using Intelligentsia, and could not/would not tell me what beans they're pulling.

                                                        de Cafe Baristas is the only 3rd wavey joint (pulling Herkimer, or Intelligentsia) in the entire WSGV now, Pasadena not withstanding. Macchiato is also using branded beans, but the baristas are really more about sketched latte art than the espresso itself.

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                                                          bulavinaka RE: TonyC Mar 11, 2013 05:28 PM

                                                          Been meaning to try Macchiato. How's their baked goods?

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                                                            TonyC RE: bulavinaka Mar 11, 2013 09:19 PM

                                                            N/A. Macchiato bakes nothing in-house except "waffles". You can get savory waffle sandwiches ala Bruxie.

                                                            So, +1 on Oh My Pan. Jonathan Chen is a Cordon Bleu grad, did a bunch of stints at Beverly Hills hotels, as well as Jin Patisserie. Him + Mrs. produce everything on premise and make 85c/kiki's look soulless.

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                                                              blimpbinge RE: TonyC Mar 11, 2013 11:17 PM

                                                              Their (Oh My Pan) green tea is also one of the best tasting and most consistent in the area. On the bold side, just enough sweetener yet retaining decent tea flavor.

                                                              It's not as fragrant as AU79's (sg branch) honey green tea, but they're really going for a different taste.

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                                                            andytseng RE: TonyC Mar 11, 2013 05:37 PM

                                                            I just went to Taza on Santa Anita and Huntington and had a pretty good experience. They carry Handsome, Intelligentsia, Blue Bottle, among others, and also have Semi-Sweet pastries. Dunno if you've tried it, but may be worth a shot if you're in that neck of the woods.

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                                                          andytseng RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 05:35 PM

                                                          Has New Mandarin Noodle Deli experienced any changes since the swap 2 years or so ago? I ask because I went after it was sold, and I haven't been back since, preferring House of Mandarin Noodle.

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                                                            ipsedixit RE: andytseng Mar 11, 2013 06:58 PM

                                                            Yes, it's changed. Not as good as before. But I still prefer it over House of Mandarin Noodle (even though the latter was the OG Mandarin Noodle Deli at the location).

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                                                            J.L. RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 09:09 PM

                                                            You missed Olympic Bakery for their glorious mango cake. Glorious.

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                                                              ipsedixit RE: J.L. Mar 11, 2013 09:20 PM

                                                              Yeah but they're a one trick pony. It's an awfully good trick, but it's still only one trick.

                                                              Even Langers - the godfather of such ponies - makes a pretty good egg cream and a memorable basket of fries.

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                                                                J.L. RE: ipsedixit Mar 11, 2013 09:34 PM

                                                                Actually, I go to Olympic not as much as others for their mango cake, but rather for their crustless Taiwanese egg, ham & mayo sandwiches - I could eat that thing all day.

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                                                                  ipsedixit RE: J.L. Mar 11, 2013 09:50 PM

                                                                  I've never had it but I don't doubt you. I bet they use Kewpie.

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                                                          PeterCC RE: ipsedixit Mar 12, 2013 12:37 AM

                                                          How about Rosemead, El Monte?

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                                                            ipsedixit RE: PeterCC Mar 12, 2013 07:48 AM

                                                            What about them?

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                                                              PeterCC RE: ipsedixit Mar 12, 2013 08:43 AM

                                                              Just curious how they rated in the too-many-choices Monterey Park and the tops-out-at-eight Temple City scale.

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                                                                ipsedixit RE: PeterCC Mar 12, 2013 10:14 AM

                                                                I think Rosemead is probably two or three steps above Temple City.

                                                                I mean just off the top of my head, you have Sea Harbour, 888, JTYH, China Islamic, VK Foods, Phong Dinh, Shanxxi Gourmet, Mien Ngha, as well as Banh Mi Che Cali and Banh Mi My Tho. Shit, that's probably 10 right there.

                                                                El Monte is certainly stretching the notion of Chinese + SGV. What's the best Chinese place in El Monte? HO HO Kitchen? For that matter, what's the best restaurant in El Monte, period? Bueller? Bueller?

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                                                                  JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Mar 12, 2013 11:17 AM

                                                                  Great, now I can't do Temple City or I'm plagiarizing you :D

                                                                  Rosemead is very rich. El Monte would throw in some Mexican eateries as well. Any good pizza places in El Monte?

                                                                  MPK Top 10 was a rousing success...but, I chalk that up to neighboring Los Angeles. The further out one goes, the more the response would likely be: "Meh, too far"

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                                                                    ipsedixit RE: JThur01 Mar 12, 2013 07:04 PM

                                                                    Jim, my friend, you are welcome to crib off of me anytime.

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                                                    TonyC RE: JThur01 Mar 10, 2013 06:20 PM

                                                    People need to realize all internet "lists" are meant to drive clicks. That's it. EOM.

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                                                      Chandavkl RE: TonyC Mar 10, 2013 07:18 PM

                                                      Yes. that's why most best Chinese restaurant in the US lists will include restaurants from Utah, Oregon and Vermont. And why I was skewered when mine didn't. But the website was happy because the outrage (almost entirely from New York) drove up their traffic.

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                                                        scoopG RE: Chandavkl Mar 10, 2013 08:17 PM

                                                        You mean lists like this one?
                                                        http://top100.chinesemenu.com/web/

                                                        Which is merely an annual pay-to-play game that serves to sell Chinese Restaurant News.

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                                                          TonyC RE: scoopG Mar 11, 2013 12:21 AM

                                                          No, not like that "list". That's just pay-for-play.

                                                          Like this: http://www.travelandleisure.com/artic...

                                                          Or, basically, ANYTHING published online by T+L, which should really just stop aggregating crap into a big clickable pile.

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                                                            JThur01 RE: TonyC Mar 11, 2013 10:55 AM

                                                            Speaking of "pay for play" I talked to a restaurant owner not too long ago. I said I wanted to write about the restaurant. His reply: "How much will it cost us?" When I explained it would be free, he was both surprised and overjoyed.

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                                                              kevin RE: JThur01 May 21, 2013 03:29 PM

                                                              Wow.

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                                                            Chandavkl RE: scoopG Mar 11, 2013 08:18 AM

                                                            That is hilarious. Every time I pass by one of the places with one of those Top 100 signs I'm thinking "100 Worst Chinese restaurants." It is stunning to see Congresswoman Chu so heavily involved in that endeavor. While I seldom agree with her politically, I always considered her a person of integrity.

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                                                            kevin RE: Chandavkl May 21, 2013 03:28 PM

                                                            The best Chinese restaurant in Oregon would be interesting though, no ?

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                                                            JThur01 RE: TonyC Mar 11, 2013 10:53 AM

                                                            ^ This! Which I guess is why that seems to be the impetus behind having so many at SI of late.

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                                                          aventinus RE: Chandavkl May 20, 2013 09:07 PM

                                                          Yoma really is a gem. The fact that it's on there at #3 makes this list credited IMO.

                                                          1. A5 KOBE RE: Chandavkl May 21, 2013 03:38 PM

                                                            Instead of having a top 10 list, why not just a "Best Of..." which does not limit nor exclude/include worthy places.

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                                                              kevin RE: A5 KOBE May 21, 2013 03:41 PM

                                                              But I think the masses love top 10 lists. Its the nature of the beast.

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                                                                A5 KOBE RE: kevin May 21, 2013 03:47 PM

                                                                So if due diligence and journalistic integrity mean nothing. Might as well write about bbq and hamburgers ten times a week.

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                                                                  kevin RE: A5 KOBE May 21, 2013 03:49 PM

                                                                  You have a point there though.

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                                                                  bulavinaka RE: kevin May 21, 2013 04:16 PM

                                                                  I think it's all dependent on the source. I look forward to lists like Jim's - great source. They're very handy for areas and cuisines that I need to learn more about (which is many for me).

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