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Weight Watcher Foodies - March Forth into Spring Edition--March 2013 [OLD]

With the warmer weather looming, I feel like it's time to redouble my weight loss efforts. The thought of what I call "The Great Unwrapping" (removing figure friendly coats and wrappings) coming with the spring has inspired me anew.

What interesting and inspirational things are you cooking to help you stay on plan?

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  1. I picked up Indian Cooking without Fat yesterday at the library. I scanned through it last night after dinner, but didn't see a lot of recipes i can use from it... well amend that... I have questions.
    A lot of the chicken dishes are marinated in yogurt. I'm allergic to dairy, so can I use soy yogurt or would you skip the yogurt altogether?
    A lot of the other recipes have ground nuts. since I also have a nut allergy, that's not going to fly. I'm not sure what purpose the nuts serve, other than flavor, so I'm not sure how to replace them. Any advice you all can provide would be great! :)
    I really want to continue trying new recipes this spring, to keep us interested and on track.

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    1. re: jujuthomas

      Hmmm. Maybe Indian food isn't your best bet for low fat cooking. I just bought Every Grain of Rice, which is the COTM, because several people mentioned that it's possible to make a lot of the recipes very diet-friendly. Maybe try that one from the library?

      1. re: roxlet

        thanks, I'll look in to it. :) amazon is my bff for looking up titles, the library descriptions are so sad.

        1. re: roxlet

          I scrolled to the bottom of the screen and found a recipe for Spinach Dal - no dairy - looks delish. If I make that, I'd get to eat it all myself, as DH doesn't eat spinach. :)

        2. re: jujuthomas

          My parents are South Asian and I am very familiar with at least a few of the different regions so can probably help!

          The yogurt is used most often to tenderize meat and does add a little bit of tang. I'm not familiar with soy yogurt, but I would definitely give it a shot. To replace the flavor, you could try using a sprinkling of amchoor (dried green mango powder), but I would probably just omit that step and see if it needs tang at the end and if so, would add lemon juice or some (soy) yogurt tempered with a bit of the sauce.

          The nuts are usually used to thicken sauces and add richness. There are a few things you can do with this, but it does depend on the dish, especially if you're using more "sweet spices" (cinnamon, cardamom, cloves, mace, etc.). Assuming the dish calls for chopped onions, you can blend them with a bit of water and then saute that until it gets some color and then proceed with the recipe. Light coconut milk or rice milk can also be used to thicken, although the coconut milk will definitely change the flavor of the end product. If the dish calls for both ground nuts and the addition of water, I might try using rice milk in place of the water. If the dish calls for potatoes and is saucy, add 1/2 of one 15 minutes before you add the rest. This one will melt and thicken the sauce.

          One other tip - the "bhuna" stage (when the spices are cooked in fat) - is where the most fat is added. What I do to cut the oil is to lightly toast the spices in a skillet separately before cooking and then when cooking, when the spices start to stick (from not using as much oil as I should), add little bits of hot water as needed. The flavor of the spices really are developed and deepened during this stage, but the pre-toasting will help.

            1. re: jujuthomas

              You're welcome and please report back if you find anything good! :)

              1. re: adrienne156

                i will! there's a recipe for lamb keema on skinnytaste I've been wanting to try... and i want to make aloo ghobi.
                tomorrow I'm meeting a girlfriend for the real deal tho. :)

                1. re: jujuthomas


                  Skinnytaste's keema recipe is almost identical to my mum's version. The only differences are that she uses whole garam masala (cinn stick, bay leaf, cloves, cardamom), canola instead of ghee, and a split serrano instead of the chili powder. I make this with ground turkey all the time.

                  Dishes like aloo ghobi are really easy to healthy up. I use less fat and then do the majority of the cooking with the top on to keep the moisture in and the veg from burning.

                  Also, I use nonstick. I have one deep, wide-bottom wok/frying pan that I use for S. Asian food specifically bc the spices really do get into the nonstick.

                  1. re: adrienne156

                    i wondered if I could make that keema with ground turkey! oh boy. gonna have to check the ingredient list and make that on sunday. :)

          1. re: jujuthomas

            I don't think soy yogurt would have the same tenderizing effect as normal yogurt or buttermilk. The one time I had soy yogurt 1) taste and texture were awful 2) used stabilizers to make that texture. So just skip the yogurt is my guess. I always forget whether it is the north or south region but one is more heavy with dairy and one is not. My bff's mom rarely cooks with cream or even paneer (sigh) but her food still comes out delicious. You can most likely omit the dairy in many dishes. Whenever I eat there the meal consists of

            1) veggie main course (stir fried, parboiled if need be, with spices)
            2) rasam (usually tomato, Dal) served on top of
            3) rice

            Maybe replace the nuts with coconut. It is a different flavor obviously but it could mimic the texture/bite in the dish. Good luck.

          2. Nothing, just setpping up the cardio!

            1. just marking my spot, but I did just receive comfort food makeovers from cook's illustrated and i'm working on upping my cardio.

              1. This has been a tough weekend, and I am hoping that my points have stayed within range. First, there was the T-bone steak last night, and today my husband lit the big smoker and made ribs and chicken. I had chicken for my dinner, but I couldn't resist a rib...or two, as it happened. I know WW says a rib is 5 points, but my husband said that the ribs he makes are much meatier than "spare ribs." I still counted 10 points for the two...

                1. I'm trying this recipe out tonight. I'm making it as 4 servings and serving with cilantro lime rice, instead of the lettuce wraps. http://bevcooks.com/2013/02/chipotle-...

                  Each serving of the chicken mixture is only 260 calories, so I can't imagine the points would be that much, especially if you do the lettuce wrap route.

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                  1. re: juliejulez

                    looks good! can't wait to hear how you like it.

                    1. re: jujuthomas

                      It was really good, and a pretty dish too, very colorful. I wish I had taken a photo. I used 3 chipotles so it was very very hot. It would have been better if I had more rice... I didn't make enough. I had planned to have 1 cup with each serving but silly me, I only ended up with a 1/2 cup for each serving. If I had the extra rice it would have calmed it down for sure. To eat the leftovers I'll probably pick up some flour tortillas to use as a wrap.. a local brand here has delicious ones for only 110 calories. The lettuce if you do a wrap would help too... or you could just use 2 chiles instead of 3 :)

                      Oh, and I only ended up with 14oz of chicken, and I didn't need 3tbsp of olive oil, only 2 (which was in my original calculation... a lot of recipes overestimate how much oil is needed to cook I think). Total calories in the end was only 242.

                  2. This weekend the fiance was in town. We went to a friend's dinner party and he served all sorts of wonderful, decadent dishes---6 courses in all including short ribs, lobster bisque, ceviche and strawberry shortcake for dessert. I knew going in that it was likely going to be a high point meal. I tasted everything (some more than others) but made sure to not have a clean plate the whole meal through (like I normally would want to).

                    We also have been eating out all weekend and I thought I made some good decisions but was figuring I was eating many more points than usual (seriously---there is no food way to count an Ethiopian dinner).

                    We did go to the gym and it made me feel good to have the fiance notice that a) I have clearly lost weight and b)I am making healthier choices.

                    Imagine my surprise when I weighed myself this morning and learned I some how lost a pound. The human body continues to baffle me. :)

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                    1. re: Elyssa

                      I love Ethopian, but yeah, you might as well not bother to count points - just figure it's a decent amount :-) That's great that you still lost a pound!

                    2. i've been really struggling. too many dinners out. during the day i try to be good - lately i've been eating little tins of smoked trout in oil, or smoked oysters, and they're only 2 pts. each can, on Wasa crackers which are a point each, and supplementing with fruit. also, and i hate to admit it because i really don't want to eat super-processed food, but i've found the WW cheese triangles (like Laughing Cow) - Parmesan & Peppercorn - are really good, and only 1 pt. each. the rub is, THEY DO NOT NEED REFRIGERATION. EVER. that's how you know it's not real food.

                      i started zumba classes but i can't go more than once a week because my leg is still bothering me. however, the BF downloaded and burned zumba cds for me, so i can go at my own pace at home.

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                          1. re: eLizard

                            Ditto this. As long as you're making the effort, that's what matters.

                              1. re: eLizard

                                First time poster, in this part of CH.

                                eL, you succintly nailed my philosophy....keep trying...can't fail unless you quit trying.

                                For the record, this guy is down ten, my lovely wife is down eight, and my wonderful stepdaughter is down a whopping sixteen....on a sub-five-foot frame!

                                Very proud of them and it's REALLY fun to be able to speak the same language, with them....the language of POINTS!

                                Good luck, out there, everyone.

                                1. re: Monch

                                  And congrats to you and the family!

                                2. re: mariacarmen

                                  Those are some very positive steps you're taking. At least YOUR significant other is not constantly lobbing road blocks in your way!

                                  1. re: roxlet

                                    true! while he's a good cook, he's not in the league of your hubby (well, hardly anyone is) and he actually does help me - weighs things, measures portions, cooks from our WW cookbooks....

                                    and, full disclosure? i just had two GS cookies - they're all over the office! grrrr... i don't even like them normally, but those Thanks-A-Lot are really good. thanks a lot, GS!

                                    1. re: mariacarmen

                                      Yes, but you can certainly count the points!

                                  2. re: mariacarmen

                                    Laughing Cow is shelf stable, too. Where do you find your WW cheese? I used to buy the WW Mexican shredded cheese all the time at my local Safeway, but haven't seen in awhile...

                                    1. re: adrienne156

                                      yeah, i know. both non-foods. i got them at Lucky's Market.

                                      1. re: mariacarmen

                                        Tasty, tasty low-point non-food. Whatever, I'm choosing my battles. (Plus, there's something oddly comforting about them...)

                                        1. re: adrienne156

                                          Agreed... while I try to keep my main meals as "real" food, often my snacks are processed... I couldn't figure out a way to get snacks that were satisfying, filling, and still stayed within my calorie limits, and have them be non-processed as well.

                                          But, if someone has a recipe for filling 120 calorie fiber granola bars with 9 grams of fiber, and still include peanut butter and chocolate I'm all ears :)

                                          1. re: juliejulez

                                            yep, obviously, i'm picking my battles too.

                                  3. Tonight I am making this recipe for chicken gyros for dinner. Though it is not a WW recipe per se, it's pretty light, and quite easy to lighten up further. Last night was leftovers, and I went right for the smoked chicken and the pickled beets my sister had brought over. I was done before my husband started cooking up the pappardelle for the leftover Boeuf Bourguignon!


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                                    1. re: roxlet

                                      Roxlet, let me know how those gyros are, I pinned them the other day and they look super tasty. It looks like something I can easily make on a weeknight and use the extras for leftovers without compromising the food by reheating it.

                                      1. re: juliejulez

                                        I'll report back after we have them. I'm not going to be back here until after 8PM tonight, so I am debating cooking them now and reheating later, but I guess I won't. They're marinating and the yogurt sauce is made. I don't think I'm going to do the tapenade, though. I may just chop up some olives...

                                    2. So just thought I'd report I dropped a bit more weight, and I now have a "normal" BMI....first time in I don't know how long... since I was maybe 15 or so. I hit my goal weight back in October but I've lost 10 more since then.

                                      At some point I guess I should try maintaining but it's hard to change the mindset... I'm a bit scared to eat more because I don't want to gain.

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                                      1. re: juliejulez

                                        i understand completely. maintaining has been the most difficult part of this process. when you decide to do it, just keep in mind it's a balancing act (and I am desperately unbalanced, LOL)! You may gain a pound or two, or lose a pound or two, as you find what works best for you.

                                        1. re: jujuthomas

                                          Yeah I thought I was doing well by eating more starting last October but apparently I'm not eating enough. I definitely don't starve... I eat usually 1700-1800 calories a day plus splurging on at least one meal on the weekends where I don't track anything. I find my meals to be satisfying already, so it's hard to get the balancing act of eating more calories but still keeping good nutrition. I can see myself being like "OK, well, I'll just have some cookies to make up the difference" haha.

                                        2. re: juliejulez

                                          That's just spectacular! Congrats on the "normal" BMI, though they do say that those numbers are not right for everyone. Give yourself a good look in the mirror, and if you're happy with what you see, and happy with how you feel, figure out how to maintain. In some ways, that's the most difficult part, isn't it?

                                          1. re: roxlet

                                            Thanks! I don't put much "weight" (ha ha) on BMI numbers since it does vary so much from person to person. I've never been a very skinny person, even when I was in great shape in high school, so I'm happy where I'm at for the most part. It's just scary, the idea of eating more.

                                          2. re: juliejulez

                                            Wow, JJ, that's amazing -- such a huge accomplishment! I'm sure you'll figure it out. You're already onto the secret -- don't deny yourself food pleasure and stay aware of what you eat in whatever way you track. I have the opposite problem -- when I was younger I was always thin even though I ate like a guy and always told people they'd have the last laugh when my metabolism slowed down and I had never developed will power...and that was definitely was the case! But I lost 25 lbs in a year or so (1+ years ago) with a combo of exercise and WW and have only gained 5 back, even though I'm not tracking any more (should be though).

                                            1. I am looking forward to our favorite Friday night dinner - fish and roasted asparagus - we mix up the fish but I think this week will be seared tuna +/- scallops although if the swordfish looks good tomorrow, I might do that instead. I typically do a quick marinate in soy sauce, touch of sesame oil, ton of ginger and garlic, onions, rice vinegar.

                                              1. Hi Everyone!
                                                I'm very happy to be back to cooking, after a couple of weeks of kitchen renovations (which turned out amazing, btw) during which we relied heavily on takeout food. I was relieved at last week's weigh in to have stayed the same. Anyway, went back to Week 11 of Slenderkitchen's meal plans, and today I made Raspberry Ricotta Pancakes (supposed to have lemon, but I left it out for my daughter, who isn't a lemon fan) 5 points for 2 pancakes, and they were excellent! Also, her Spinach Artichoke soup for lunch (3 points for 1 1/4 cups) and her Slow Cooker Chicken cacciatore for dinner, all excellent. Also roasted some vegetable for a roasted vegetable calzone later in the week. An awesome cooking day, with great results.

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                                                1. re: sunflwrsdh

                                                  Congrats on the successful renovation and not gaining weight eating takeout! That spinach artichoke soup sounds great -- any chance you could paraphrase?

                                                  1. re: sunflwrsdh

                                                    That sounds like a win all around. Are you doing the slender kitchen subscription?

                                                    1. re: sunflwrsdh

                                                      Congrats on the completed kitchen reno - and on staying the same weight during it! I'm totally jealous! I'm really going to try to remember to check out slender kitchen when I go home tonight!

                                                      1. re: sunflwrsdh

                                                        Thanks, everyone, for the support and kind words:)
                                                        Yes, I am doing Slenderkitchen's meal plan subscription. I bought it on New Year's Eve, for a special price of $24 for the entire year.. which is an excellent bargain. I've already gotten my money's worth, and then some. Love. love, love the way everything is planned for. Tonight's dinner was chicken pasta bake, which called for using "3 servings" of Sunday's slow cooker chicken cacciatore, which was great to begin with, and even better in the chicken pasta bake. We had company for dinner tonight, and I still stuck with the planned meal and they loved it! To paraphrase the Spincah artichoke soup, as someone asked me to do:
                                                        10 oz fresh or frozen spinach
                                                        1.5 cups of artichoke hearts (I used thawed frozen artichokes, but 1 14 oz can would also work)
                                                        1 cup non fat Greek yogurt
                                                        2 garlic cloves, chopped
                                                        1/2 cup parmesan cheese
                                                        1 medium onion, chopped
                                                        3 cups no fat chicken or vegetable broth
                                                        Fresh ground black pepper

                                                        * Saute the onions in a large Dutch oven or soup ot, sprayed with non fat cooking spray, until they begin to become translucent and fragrant. Add the garlic and continue to saute for 1-2 minutes. Add the spinach and artichoke hearts and saute for an additional 2 minutes until spinach begins to wilt.
                                                        * Add 3 cups of vegetable or chicken broth and salt and pepper to taste. Simmer for 10 minutes.
                                                        * Stir in the Greek yogurt and the Parmesan cheese. Let cool for 5-10 minutes, and add to a blender. Blend to desired consistency.

                                                        1. re: sunflwrsdh

                                                          That sounds delicious! How many servings and how many portions? And if the spinach is frozen, do you thaw and squeeze out the moisture first?

                                                          1. re: roxlet

                                                            Yes, I did thaw it in the microwave and squeeze the water out first. And it was really good and 3 points for a cup and a quarter serving:)

                                                      2. last night I made the Lamb Keema from Skinnytaste for dinner. while it was not our absolute most favorite meal ever, it was tasty. I found myself wishing for something creamy - coconut milk perhaps - in the sauce. Also, the lamb was not very lean - if I make it again I will go to whole foods instead of giant for the ground lamb. I think their selection will be better.

                                                        I'm waiting to hear from DH as to the success of the frittata I made him for his weekday breakfasts - it had ham, green pepper, onion, jalapeno, diced potato and just about a 1/4 cup of shredded cheddar. last week's breakfast burritos were too soggy for his taste. o_0

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                                                        1. re: jujuthomas

                                                          I'm super bummed it didn't turn out well! I should have tried it out before recommending it. :o\ Btw, there was sauce? Keema is usually a dry dish...

                                                          1. re: adrienne156

                                                            it wasn't a lot of sauce, just some leftover cooking liquid... we didn't hate it, it just wasn't our favorite.

                                                        2. i made the skinnytaste buffalo cauliflower this weekend. win.

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                                                          1. re: eLizard

                                                            Will you let us know how it is? I've been eyeing that recipe.

                                                            1. re: Elyssa

                                                              it was fantastic, actually. you might want to cook the cauliflower longer than she says....

                                                          2. I'm trying this recipe out, only w/ farfalle instead of cavatelli: http://www.tablespoon.com/recipes/cav...

                                                            It looks very simple, and the best part it's only 393 calories per serving, 4 servings (assuming 8oz of pasta and 16oz of chicken for the recipe), which is very low for a pasta dish including a protein.

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                                                            1. re: juliejulez

                                                              So, this was just "meh". Like, it was good, nothing wrong with it, just not that great. It needed something else, but I don't know what! I'll eat the leftovers but won't make it again most likely.

                                                              1. re: juliejulez

                                                                Maybe some toasted, ground almonds and a bit of freshly ground child pepper to take it in a romesco direction? I also though the chicken sounded off...fine, but wouldn't contribute much flavor-wise. I admire how many new recipes you try!

                                                                1. re: mebby

                                                                  I think it would have been better with chicken sausage.. something to add more oomph to it.... it's just kind of... meh. I also almost threw in a handful of chopped up walnuts I have hanging out in the fridge, but decided not to because I didn't want to increase the calories.

                                                            2. I just rejoined WW this morning. My DH jumped on and joined with me...very excited about this. I knew that I'd have my CH friends to share experiences with, and this made the decision to rejoin much easier. It's angering....I know what to do, I just don't do it! But, I have faith that WW+CH/WW= success!

                                                              I found this recipe this morning. I'm planning to make this for lunch tomorrow. It's only 5 pts, including the yogurt "aioli".


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                                                              1. re: pagesinthesun

                                                                Welcome, and thanks for the link. That's an interesting recipe!

                                                                1. re: pagesinthesun

                                                                  Way to go, girl! It's great that DH is joining you. The moral support will be fabulous. Laloosh has some interesting, WW friendly recipes.

                                                                  1. re: DelishDi

                                                                    Thanks for the recommendation and of course, the kind words of support. First week under my belt. I really like the new points system and online/app tracker. I struggled over the weekend, but got right back on track today. Thank goodness my weigh day isn't until Wednesday! My food has been pretty basic, so I'm going to start researching recipes (my normal cooking behavior) and making yummy WW meals.

                                                                    I love all these ideas here. Thanks everyone!

                                                                2. Let me start by saying I don't have any vested interest in pushing Slenderkitchen's meal plans, I just bought them for myself and am sharing results. That said, The meal plans are AWESOME!!!! I've posted some other stuff about them, but last night, I made Baked chicken pasta, which uses leftover chicken cacciatore from Sunday, and it was great!!! It is a little high in points,( 10 per serving) but she takes your whole day into account, so breakfast and lunch plans for that day are a little lighter. And it was great! I love that using leftovers is part of the plan!

                                                                  1. Last night I had some lovely pan-grilled swordfish with a tart vinaigrette over farro with skinnykitchen.com string bean fries on the side. Everyone -- dieters and non dieters alike -- loved the fish and farro, but the reaction to the fries was meh. No one seemed to like the panko, and there was talk about how they tasted like there was horseradish in them, which there wasn't. Tonight I am cooking for myself and a friend, and I'm going to make the cod I picked up from Trader Joe's frozen. The frozen swordfish was excellent, so we'll see how this is. I'm looking for an interesting preparation. Meanwhile, down another 2.2 today, so I'm stoked. However, I had a real yen for a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich, so I decided to get it to work within my points. Two slices of bacon, two eggs, over easy, and a kaiser roll with the center hollowed out, and no cheese was my compromise. And it wasn't bad for a total of 10 points. I made it for brunch, and will have a snack later, which should hold me for an early-ish dinner.

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                                                                    1. re: roxlet

                                                                      Awesome on losing another 2.2, no easy feat with those meals your husband makes!

                                                                      For bacon, I don't know if it makes any points difference, but look into center cut bacon. That's what I use, and it's way less calories/fat than regular bacon. I use Kroger's "Private Selection" brand where 2 slices is only 50 calories. Hormel also makes it, theirs is 70 calories I believe. Center cut means I can have it a lot more often than I could if I only had the regular!

                                                                      1. re: juliejulez

                                                                        Good idea, but my husband has a particular brand of bacon that he likes, so I use that since I have it so infrequently. But it sure was a good sandwich, and it's almost 2PM and I haven't gotten hungry again yet, although I just shared some mini carrots with my dog.

                                                                    2. I made the Spinach and Cheese quiche out of the New Complete cookbook. It was great and since I feel more or less like I am eating real quiche, it makes me feel less deprived.

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                                                                      1. re: melpy

                                                                        I just got that book. I'll have to check it out!

                                                                      2. I've been rolling with WW for about 2 years and have lost and kept off a little over 20 pounds and returned to a healthy BMI. My major strategy is to be pretty regimented at breakfast and lunch (especially on weekdays) so that I save most of my daily points (around 16 or 17) for the evening. I also save all of my bonus points for Thursday - Sunday so that I can have a couple of drinks/eat whatever is served at a dinner party/enjoy eating out on the weekend.

                                                                        Some of my favorite healthy recipe sites:

                                                                        Favorite recipes - I often modify to make just 2 portions, add spices or additional vegetables, etc.:

                                                                        http://www.skinnytaste.com/2012/11/pa... (I roast the squash


                                                                        http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/el... (I add celery, tomato paste, and garlic






                                                                        http://www.marthastewart.com/337238/p... (using low-fat sour cream



                                                                        Absolute favorite salad! For each serving:
                                                                        4 oz. Grilled boneless skinless chicken thigh (could marinate but we often don't
                                                                        )Chopped lettuce
                                                                        Whatever other chopped veggies you like: peppers, onions, carrot,
                                                                        cabbage, jicama, cucumber, etc.
                                                                        Chopped cilantro and nuts (almonds, cashews, or peanuts) for garnish
                                                                        1/2 cup yakisoba noodles, mint and thai basil would be good too
                                                                        Peanut dressing (1 T peanut butter, 2 or 3T rice wine vinegar, 2 t
                                                                        sesame oil, and then soy sauce, mirin, and/or fish sauce to taste; as
                                                                        well as fresh chopped or powdered ginger and garlic - mix together or
                                                                        pulse in a mini food processor)
                                                                        - Mix the dressing with the noodles, then toss the noodles with the
                                                                        lettuce and veggies, garnish with cilantro and nuts

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                                                                        1. re: mcstubbs

                                                                          That recipe for the pasta with butternut sauce really is good, I made it not too long ago.

                                                                          Have you ever tried making the pork paprikash with greek yogurt instead of the light sour cream?

                                                                        2. I just had a really delicious and filling 6 point lunch that I thought I'd pass on. I used the large can of Trader Joe's water packed tuna (2 points), and mashed it with half an avocado (4 points). Salt and pepper, and some lovely little tomatoes cut up. It was really good and very satisfying! You could add lots of different vegetables, and I didn't miss the mayo at all.

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                                                                          1. re: roxlet

                                                                            Ohhh this is a good idea! I love tuna but often find it too dry without mayo. I bet this would be good served on butter lettuce as well.

                                                                            1. re: Elyssa

                                                                              Yes, it would be! And you could do a butter lettuce wrap as well. And I misspoke about the tuna -- it was the Kirkland brand from Costco that I find to be better than every other I've tried in recent years.

                                                                            2. re: roxlet

                                                                              oh i used to do something like this way back when! same thing, can of tuna, half an avo, but diced, and chopped tomatoes, and then shook Tapatio over it, which is free, and you're right, it was always so fresh and satisfying! i'm going to start doing this again, thanks for the reminder.

                                                                              and congrats on losing more poundage - that's so great!
                                                                              i also like you "splurged" but kept it within points. i do do that with BLTs.

                                                                              1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                Thanks mc. This week has been tough, and I think I might be hypoglycemic because I get a little shaky in the afternoons. I just had some bread I made with a little butter. Maybe 6pts. Still plenty left for the minestrone soup that I made for dinner. Not many points in that at all.

                                                                                Tapatio is a salsa?

                                                                                1. re: roxlet

                                                                                  Tapatio is a hot sauce, like Chilula. It's like tobasco without the vinegary flavor and has a hint of Mexican flavors. I prefer this or chilula in place of tobasco.

                                                                                  I found these crackers at Costco called Dr Kracker classic 3 seed crackers. It is one point for a large (think four crackers) cracker. Very satisfying and crunchy. I eat this as an accompaniment to my fish salad meals.

                                                                                  I love the avocado idea! Thanks

                                                                                  1. re: pagesinthesun

                                                                                    Where is your Costco. I find that what they have can be very regional...

                                                                                    1. re: roxlet

                                                                                      I'm in AZ

                                                                                      And it's actually 2 points per cracker, I had one today with my sardines. Still worth it though.

                                                                                      1. re: pagesinthesun

                                                                                        i've been eating Wasa rye and i believe they're 1 pt. i'll have to look when i get to work, as that's where i have them stashed. and they're really big.

                                                                                        1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                          Yes, they're 1 point. I'll have a piece of Wasa slathered with a Laughing Cow Light cheese wedge as a 2 point snack.

                                                                                          1. re: roxlet

                                                                                            i thought laughing cow light was 2 pts.... that's why i switched to the WW cheese.... i do like laughing cow better tho....

                                                                                    2. re: pagesinthesun

                                                                                      Tapatio is great, as is Cholula. My favorite Cholula variety is Chipotle but all of the others (Garlic, Lime, Original) are great as well. I am quite the hot sauce nutcase - nothing too out of the ordinary but I have quite the stock of most of the regular varieties in the store. I also quite enjoy Crystal Hot Sauce and it can often be tossed on a meal for a nice flavor boost without too much spice.

                                                                                      1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                        i like Crystal too, and yes, any of your favorite hot sauces go well with that tuna/avo/toms combo. very refreshing!

                                                                              2. I made a delicious dinner tonight: Honey-Mustard Turkey Cutlets with Potatoes. I found it on the Eating Well website (which I think someone on this board recommended). The honey mustard sauce has curry in it which was a wonderful addition. Likely would be a good sauce on pretty much anything. The whole dish (1 cutlet and 1/4 of the potato/leek mixture) is 9 points. I served it with sauteed spinach.


                                                                                In other news: I had planned to go to the gym today but after my personal trainer session yesterday I can literally bend down to tie my shoes---seriously! It was such an intense workout I have been walking around in pain all day---but she says I'll get use to it.

                                                                                Also the pedometer I ordered came in the mail today. I'm looking forward to working that in to my daily routine. My main form of transportation is walking (I don't have a car and live in a big city) and I have a feeling I'm way underestimating the amount of walking I'm doing. This should help since the WW app I use has a pedometer converter for points.

                                                                                1. I like to eat fish (usually salmon or tilapia) a couple of times a week. Usually I just put some lemon, paprika, salt and pepper on it and roast it. But I'm getting a little bored with that.

                                                                                  Does anyone have any go-to fish recipes that are tasty and quick (think something I can make on a weeknight--no more than 20-30 minutes for prep and cooking)?

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                                                                                  1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                    I love bruschetta with fish or a nice rub of roasted garlic with Greek seasoning, but my current favorite for many types of fish (tuna, swordfish, shrimp and also chicken and beef) is sherry vinegar. On this site Bacardi has a great 1-2-3-4 marinade with 1 tbsp soy sauce, 2 tbsp sherry vinegar, 3 tbsp oil and 4 cloves minced garlic. I don't always use all the ingredients but a splash of sherry is simple and very tasty. For example, last night I was tired of the lemon herb combination so sprinkled shrimp with pepper and paprika sauteed and added a splash of sherry wine and it was delicious and I can't wait to do it agian.

                                                                                    1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                      Thank you! I especially like the roasted garlic and Greek seasoning idea. I'm a garlic fiend.

                                                                                      1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                        Me too! I usually load up on garlic when I buy it and the clerk often responds "wow that's a lot of garlic." I don't bother to mention that it really doesn't last that long. I know many people think garlic is abused and overused, but when it's just me and I enjoy it I load it on. Roasted, raw, sauteed - I love it all though I do worry that I reek of the stuff. My favorite Greek Seasoning is Cavendar's which you might want to give a try. It's great on everything.

                                                                                        1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                          Great...I'll check it out. I'm a big fan of Med flavors and most of my cooking is Greek/Italian influenced.

                                                                                          I always have at least 2 garlic heads in my fridge. If a recipe calls for 1 clove I put in 2. I just love that flavor! Luckily my fiance likes it too :)

                                                                                          1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                            Thanks for all your easy fish recs. I made a really nice fish recipe last night---although I failed to read the recipe closely (amateur mistake I should have learned from years ago) and thought the full cooking time was 30 minutes not 1 hour and 30 minutes! While this dish was full of flavor, I didn't eat dinner until 9pm.


                                                                                            The fish itself is only 5 points. I served it with whole wheat Israeli cous cous, a small sprinkling of low-fat feta and sauted spinach and garlic. It was all delicious!

                                                                                            1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                              Oh wow, that looks tasty. I am not a fan of garbanzo beans but I'm sure I could do it without.

                                                                                              1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                                You could probably do it without the chickpeas (would certainly bring down the points). The spices that are used are particularly tasty. You also could probably use white beans instead.

                                                                                                1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                                  Yea, or maybe I'd incorporate another type of beans. To reveal myself - I don't actually do Weight Watchers but contribute to this thread because I'm an avid fitness person and so cook and eat fairly "healthy" most days.

                                                                                                1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                                  What a wonderful website. Thanks for the link.

                                                                                                  1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                                    That's another great ww recipes web site, Elyssa!

                                                                                              2. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                                What type of peppers do you use? Chilli peppers or bell?

                                                                                                I make fish normally the same way as you---throw any herbs I have or peprika and then roast for about 12 minutes. I am just looking for some alternatives.

                                                                                              3. re: Elyssa

                                                                                                I don't make a lot of fish because it's hard to get good stuff that doesn't cost an arm and a leg here in the middle of the country, but I have made this http://traceysculinaryadventures.blog... and I really liked it.... and salmon isn't usually my favorite. I think it would be good on other types of fish too.

                                                                                                1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                                  Hey Elyssa,

                                                                                                  I do fish the quick and dirty way. I heat up the oven to 400 degrees, season the fish with anything I like and bake for 10 minutes per inch depth of the fish. Alternatively, I do a Mexican Veracurzano fish by sautéing onions, peppers, garlic and tomatoes together and then add the fish. It is excellent and quick.

                                                                                                  1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                                    I usually do what you do as well, but fish tacos is an easy way to mix things up. You can add whatever you like in your tacos, a bit of lime juice, avocado, salsa, low fat cheese, lettuce, etc.

                                                                                                    Another really easy and different way I like to make tilapia is to dip in egg whites, and then into a breadcrumb (or panko) and Parmesan cheese mixture. Bake. Very yummy.

                                                                                                    1. re: Elyssa

                                                                                                      1 tbsp maple syrup (only 1 point! - or balsamic)
                                                                                                      Minced or chopped garlic
                                                                                                      1-2 tsp butter rubbed over
                                                                                                      Maybe some dill, ripped onto it
                                                                                                      Some tzatziki is actually really low in points (in Canada, Liberte brand)
                                                                                                      Scotch bonnet or a nice mango hot sauce, 0 points or very low

                                                                                                    2. This will be a tough week:

                                                                                                      Monday: my family is coming to town to go cake tasting for my wedding. I don't even like cake but feel like, as the bride, I have to participate. My father wants to go to a cheesesteak place for dinner before hand. Really don't want to blow my 30 remaining weeklies on stupid cake.

                                                                                                      Tuesday- pollock, roasted asparagus, maybe sweet potato pierogies I have in te freezer. Problem is my fiancé wants fish and chips and a beer batter fried fish. Debating what to do still.

                                                                                                      Wed-trivia night at the bar. Had a Greek salad last week and was miserable watching the boys eat burgers, wraps and fries. Must find something I like or get a different dressing because the Greek was all oily.
                                                                                                      Thursday-Skinny taste's pulled jerk pork with mango avocado salsa. Meant to make it last week, hoping all my ingredients hold up.
                                                                                                      Friday- crabcakes in MD from Gunnings.

                                                                                                      I had done really well last week but the end of the weekend bombed.

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                                                                                                      1. re: melpy

                                                                                                        Remember, it is a lifestyle change. One step at a time. For the cake, remember it is a tasting, not a gorging. Take a small bite of each style and savor them. Let the others snarf it down.

                                                                                                        1. re: melpy

                                                                                                          A tip for the burgers/wraps/fries - order a burger, just plain or with cheese, and get something else on the side rather than fries. This way you don't have bacon or any other fatty toppings, and you also are saving the calories from fries. One place near me offered black beans on the side, which was great since I love black beans. Mashed potatoes (as long as they aren't doused in butter), roasted potatoes, a side salad, etc. You can't be good all of the time, so if you are going to have meal envy, still get a burger but just modify it a bit to be healthier :-)

                                                                                                          1. re: Solstice444

                                                                                                            our local tavern has several heathier options you can get as a side. they look at me so strangely when I ask for broccoli instead of fries, LOL!

                                                                                                        2. This is a difficult time for me. I have been on WW since September and have lost 48 lbs. I have done this by keeping to the P+ plan and exercising over an hour most days.
                                                                                                          Unfortunately, I fractured my ankle 2 weeks ago, (damn ice), and have to stay off my foot for the next month and will wear a walking boot after that. While my food is still mostly ok, I have had a few minor slips and cannot exercise. I realize this is a lifestyle change and I just have to keep on doing what is best, I am frustrated. Any wisdom from others would be appreciated. Thanks.

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                                                                                                          1. re: docfood

                                                                                                            docfood, like you said, this is a lifestyle change, so part of that is "going with the flow". Although I didn't use weight watchers, I lost all of my weight (50+lbs) through diet alone. It was slower than if I had exercised... ended up averaging to be around a pound a week over the course of a year. Some weeks I lost a lot, others I lost none. The weeks with "none" were frustrating but I just tried to stay focused on the big picture. I had my slip ups (like this weekend where I consumed WAY too much beer), but that's how life goes sometimes. Just keep doing what you're doing... sticking to your plan the best you can. You might see a slower weight loss than you do when you exercise, but as long as you stick to your plan, it'll still come off.

                                                                                                            Also, while it probably won't burn much, maybe look into exercises that can be done while seated. It'll at least keep you moving and from becoming a total sloth :) I'm sure there's youtube videos, and I know the other site I am a member on, sparkpeople.com, has a series of short exercise videos geared towards people with limited mobility.

                                                                                                            1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                              Thanks juliejulez, this is helpful. Do you have links for the videos?

                                                                                                              1. re: docfood

                                                                                                                Sure here you go: http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/v...

                                                                                                                I've never looked on youtube but I'm sure there's tons there too.

                                                                                                                  1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                    i actually did a couple of those videos! can't say they were the best workout but they were certainly better than nothing. i think the "core" one actually helped the stiffness in my hip! thanks again jj!

                                                                                                                    1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                      You're welcome. Maybe I should actually try them haha! I too get very stiff in my hips so that might be helpful for me. I do love my sparkpeople.com site though. So many resources.

                                                                                                                        1. re: magic

                                                                                                                          I just found this one, which has some interesting recipes:

                                                                                                                          And I like:

                                                                                                                          1. re: magic

                                                                                                                            myrecipes.com is where the Cooking Light recipes are kept, along with a lot of other magazine recipes.

                                                                                                                            I also cook a lot from http://budgetbytes.blogspot.com/ It's not a "diet" blog or anything like that, but I've found that most of the recipes are actually pretty healthy, and they've all been really delicious. Her listed portion sizes are very good too. I've made a number of things from there.

                                                                                                                            1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                              Outstanding :)

                                                                                                                              These are great, thanks!

                                                                                                                            2. re: magic

                                                                                                                              Here's a fantastic unit conversion tool that is really making my life easier right now:

                                                                                                                              Converts food units from ml to grams and vice versa, etc. Plus it gives the nutritional info!


                                                                                                                    2. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                      True, docfood.... use this time to work on upper body exersizes perhaps. Can do those seated. Ab machines too. Even some leg ones seated.

                                                                                                                      Actually, lots of seated machines where there is little to no ankle pressure.

                                                                                                                    3. re: docfood

                                                                                                                      i hear you docfood - i had kept off most of the 24 i'd lost 4 years ago but fractured something in my foot last Feb., and then when it was almost healed, fell and hurt the hell out of my leg and thigh - on same leg previously injured - in December. the not working out really did me in, and i'm just now starting to get back to it. can you do things like leg lifts, or sit-ups? i know it's not as fun as a good cardio work-out....

                                                                                                                      julie those videos look good, i just checked out the one for cardio while seated. thanks for sharing!

                                                                                                                      1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                        Thanks for the support Mariacarmen. It is a challenge. I also liked the seated cardio one, and will hopefully try it soon. This is a frustrating time, but I will get through it with support, patience, and recognizing that this continues to be one day at a time and lifestyle change. Wish me luck.

                                                                                                                      2. re: docfood

                                                                                                                        You can still work out, just other parts of your body, until you can get back to your normal routine. Upper body exercising....

                                                                                                                      3. I'm new to WW, two weeks. I'm enjoying the challenge overall. I'm a long time dieter and I'm finding it very easy to follow. (weekends are proving to be a little tough)

                                                                                                                        If you don't mind sharing, how often do you weigh yourself? Are you just doing a weigh in once per week or do you weigh more often?

                                                                                                                        Thanks for sharing. Weightloss is such a personal journey. It's nice to have foodies to share it with.

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                                                                                                                        1. re: pagesinthesun

                                                                                                                          I have made a concerted effort to not step on the scale until the weekly weigh in. In the past, I have found myself getting discouraged if the results weren't what I thought they should be, and it became self defeating.

                                                                                                                          1. re: pagesinthesun

                                                                                                                            Not a WW, but I weigh every day. BUT, I only log it (I use sparkpeople.com) once a week, usually Fridays... that way I've had a chance to work all the sodium and alcohol I drink on weekends out of my system :) Excess amounts of two things guarantee I will have an artificially high weigh in, but I've been at it long enough to know that and I've come to expect it. I'm also a numbers freak so I like to see the weekly spread. But for example, last Friday I was at 139. Had a debaucherous weekend, weighed in at 144 on Monday. I know I didn't gain 5 real lbs in 3 days :) It was down to 140 by yesterday.

                                                                                                                            BUT, if you're the type to get discouraged by a high day, I wouldn't do daily weigh ins. I know folks on the SP boards that will weigh in only once a week or even monthly.

                                                                                                                            1. re: pagesinthesun

                                                                                                                              5 weeks for me.

                                                                                                                              I'm making my own personalized points list - it's a huge and ongoing project. I've got like 250 entries so far, unique to me and my likes.

                                                                                                                              Does anyone else do this? Make personalized lists? Just me??

                                                                                                                              1. re: magic

                                                                                                                                I don't do WW (I do a ketogenic low carb thing,) but I've have had to add a ton of custom foods to FitDay which is where I track. Its a big time investment up front but it pays off, especially since I track what I'm going to eat *before* I eat it. That way if the numbers don't look good I can easily change the menu around until it does.

                                                                                                                                I often run a recipe through a recipe analyzer like the one on calorie-count, decide how many servings it is and then add one serving as a custom food so I can just choose it from my "custom foods" list instead of trying to figure out how much of each ingredient.

                                                                                                                                1. re: weezieduzzit

                                                                                                                                  Thanks, I will check out FitDay!

                                                                                                                                  It is a TON of work, yes. But it's worth it if it frees up your life and gives you options. It's also been a fun project for me, that I know will likely never end as long as I'm tracking.

                                                                                                                                  Do they have a nutrition calculator? Does it work well with foods without labels? Is it free? :-)

                                                                                                                                  1. re: magic

                                                                                                                                    It does have all of the nutritional info, if you don't find the item in their "library" of foods you can add it as a custom food, it is customizable, and it is free. :)

                                                                                                                                    1. re: weezieduzzit

                                                                                                                                      Outstanding! I will visit now....

                                                                                                                                  2. re: weezieduzzit

                                                                                                                                    BTW Weezie, I tried out that calorie count site for recipe building because I love the copy and paste feature, but I found it kind of hard to use, and some of their numbers were way off when I double checked. That could have been user error too though :) I use the sparkrecipes.com builder now because I can input the entire recipe, then enter the number of servings, and it figures out the number of calories per serving. Plus it syncs with my tracker on sparkpeople.com.... which is free online but the app costs $5 I think.

                                                                                                                                    But I agree, no matter what builder/database you are using, once you get your own personal database going of your own ingredients, building out recipes takes no time at all. It rarely takes me more than 5 minutes now to do one, and that's only if it's very long with lots of ingredients, like ethnic dishes usually are.

                                                                                                                              2. I have to say that I was kind of shocked to be down 3.3 pounds today at my weigh in. This has been a week in which I have been absolutely starving a lot of the time, and in which I have dipped much more heavily into my weekly points just to keep the hunger at bay. I think part of the secret might have been a couple of meatless days, as well as 4 days of my tuna/avocado mash up. So I'm thrilled to be down just .2 under 20 lbs for 10 weeks.

                                                                                                                                I have been really craving a big bowl of pasta -- not those make-belive 2 oz. portions -- so I think that I am going to save up enough points to have me a really good bowl of puttanesca or marinara for dinner tonight. It's just me since both my husband and son are away, and this has been something I have been absolutely craving.

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                                                                                                                                1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                  that is fabulous! and i remember when i was being scrupulous it would happen that way - it sometimes seemed like the scale was showing the results of my efforts the week before. but no matter, that's so great! 3.3 is HUGE. and you've done almost 20 lbs. in 10 weeks?? really impressive.

                                                                                                                                  i have officially made April the get-serious month. we are going to Chicago at the end of April and i have just 23 days to rein it in (i have too many food dinners out to count March, tho i'm still trying to be point-conscious during the day, and working out) before i eat the hell out of that city. luckily we walk a lot on vaca, so hopefully i won't have too much catching up to do when i get back.

                                                                                                                                  anyway, rox, congrats! enjoy that pasta!

                                                                                                                                  1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                                    Have fun in Chicago, I call it my honorary hometown as I lived there throughout my 20s. If you can, go have a cupcake at Molly's for me :)

                                                                                                                                    1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                                      And breakfast at Bongo Room! (Wicker Park location)

                                                                                                                                      1. re: magic

                                                                                                                                        i've heard of that place! we'll see if we can swing that. thanks!

                                                                                                                                  2. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                    So I had my delicious penne with a marinara sauce, Romano cheese, and a chiffonade of fresh basil, and you know what? I couldn't eat the full amount I'd budgeted my points for! I guess my appetite has changed a bit!

                                                                                                                                    1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                      Isn't that great when you figure that out? I had that moment at Wendy's of all places, pretty recently. We were on the road and were hungry, so I ordered what I used to... spicy crispy chicken sandwich with fries... and while I was able to finish the sandwich, I only managed maybe 1/4 of the fries. Before I used to be able to take it all down and still be hungry for more!

                                                                                                                                      1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                                        It's odd because I've been very hungry lately after not feeling terribly hungry for several weeks. I had a friend who always used to say that was when you were losing weight--like your body was fighting the diet, lol. I was so excited about this meal, and it was delicious, but now I have quite a few points left!

                                                                                                                                        1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                                          Jealous of you people who have had your appetite change :-P

                                                                                                                                      2. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                        3.3 pounds is wonderful! Congratulations on you great success!

                                                                                                                                      3. I'm doing a riff on this Cooking Light recipe: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/spicy... I've made it as written before and it's super super good. Definitely worth trying.

                                                                                                                                        1. not sure what I'm making for dinner tonight, but I"m craving seafood. I'm going to run to whole foods before I head home and see what looks good. I have a cooking light (I think) recipe I love for shrimp with orzo, but DH has requested linquini instead of orzo. if the shrimp look good, I'll do that... otherwise, we we'll see. :)

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                                                                                                                                          1. re: jujuthomas

                                                                                                                                            did you know that Whole Foods sells fresh cut pasta - like, you tell them how much you want and they cut it right then? I got 8 oz of linguini, and it was really inexpensive for fresh pasta, I think. Just $2.45! will be doing that again. the only issue was that the linguini clumped up and didn't mix well with the shrimp and cherry tomatoes when I put the dish together. maybe the pot i cooked it in was too small??? I don't use fresh pasta a lot, but I think I'm going to do it more. it tasted so good.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: jujuthomas

                                                                                                                                              Did you separate the strands of linguini before you put them into the pot?

                                                                                                                                              1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                SO you're supposed to separate the strands, huh?!?! we'll try that next time. I'm guessing you just mean kind of spread it out and drop them "not all in a big clump" like we did. :-D

                                                                                                                                          2. Well, tonight will be a challenge -- it is an annual fried chicken dinner that my husband prepares -- fried chicken, pole beans, mac and cheese, squash casserole, rice and gravy. I have 20 of my daily remaining, and all of my weekly, so I should be able to have a bit of everything, the problem is that I just don't know how to account for the points of everything!

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                                                                                                                                            1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                              i would say put a nice piece of chicken on your plate, a tbsp. each of mac-n-cheese, squash casserole, rice/gravy, and a nice handful of pole beans. eat that, see how you feel. you've got tons of points banked, i say don't worry about it. you can be extra good next week. enjoy!

                                                                                                                                              1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                                                I had two pieces of chicken -- a small thigh and a wing, and a generous tablespoon each of mac and cheese and squash casserole, pole beans and one small biscuit with butter. For dessert, I "picked" at the cherries on the bottom of the pie plate. I'll try to figure out the points tomorrow. Oh yes, and half a margarita!

                                                                                                                                                1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                                                  So when I tallied up the points -- honestly -- I got 31 for this meal! A chicken wing is 8 points! And another 8 for the thigh. Good thing my weigh-in isn't until Thursday, and we're having fish tonight!!

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                    dang! now you see how we got to be where we need WW!

                                                                                                                                                    you'll be fine. you saved up a lot of points.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                      31 points is really good, consiering 26 points is most people's daily alotment. A little extra in the workout dept. and you'll have balanced out the 5 extra points! Way to go!

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                        I think one of several reasons that put me off of WW for good was the ridiculous amount of points for wings :-)


                                                                                                                                                        1. re: linguafood

                                                                                                                                                          I know. It seems strange, but it must be because of all that yummy skin. Except for the drumstick part of the wing, it's very hard to eat a wing without the skin. Given the tiny amount of meat, 8 points do seem like an excessive amount of points for one wing!

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                            I think it's 6 PP per wing, "fast food" style.

                                                                                                                                                            3-4 if they are baked (skin included).

                                                                                                                                                            But yeah, it's a lot. But what can you do?! Say eff it and treat yourself anyways. I'd never track going out for wings. Be a treat.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: magic

                                                                                                                                                              I thought it was 3 per wing, which is still a lot...6, yikes! I hardly ever ate wings when I was WW because of that. I would save them as a special treat when I went to the best place for wings in the area. It saved me from a lot of mediocre wings.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Solstice444

                                                                                                                                                                WW or not, wings are always a special treat for me. With the fries and dips it's like a week's worth of fat (not really, but you know...). You don't even need to be on WW to know that ;)

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: magic

                                                                                                                                                                  I would like to find out what the story is about wings in terms of the points.

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                                    Skinnytaste shows these as being 5 points for 2 wings, as prepared (without skin). http://www.skinnytaste.com/2009/03/li...

                                                                                                                                                                    I'm wondering if the 3 and beyond points is what they are if they're prepared traditionally with the buffalo sauce, skin on etc.... but maybe they're more like 2 points if plain without skin.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                                                                      Makes sense. Once that skin comes off it makes sense that wings would drop from 3 to 2 points or therabouts.

                                                                                                                                                                      The online tool states:
                                                                                                                                                                      60 grams of chicken wing (raw) without skin is 1 point.
                                                                                                                                                                      28 grams chicken wing (raw) with skin is 1 point.

                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: magic

                                                                                                                                                                    Well, I didn't eat them all the time, but I ate them more when I wasn't on WW, once a month or so :-) Now that I am off, though, and know how bad they are, I eat them just a couple of times a year.

                                                                                                                                                    2. of course, take my advice with a grain of salt since i'm not doing so well myself. tonight i'm making seared duck breasts, with mashed potatoes finished with truffle butter, and brussels sprouts sauteed in the duck fat.

                                                                                                                                                      i'm not on the bandwagon, but i can still see it! i'm waving at you all, till i'm ready to jump back on.

                                                                                                                                                      1. I'm not sure if I read this here or on another thread, but the idea of fish tacos made from fish sticks really tickled my fancy. I went to Trader Joe's and bought some of their reduced calorie fish sticks, which are only 1 point each. I heated up three of the fish sticks (they're a little on the small side, I have to say. Closer to large nubbins than sticks, imo.), used a 2 point WW tortilla, and then added salsa, tomatoes, and thinly sliced cabbage. This was a really nice 5 point lunch, though a bit "light." I'm sure I'll be looking for a snack later!

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                                                                                                                                                        1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                          i want to do that too!! i bought two kinds for comparison's sake, but i've yet to try them. were the sticks crispy enough?
                                                                                                                                                          i think this will be my dinner tonight, the BF has plenty of meat to keep him happy. i have cabbage, and sour cream too, to which i'll had a little habanero hot sauce for a drizzle.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: mariacarmen

                                                                                                                                                            Yes, they were surprisingly crispy. I would defintely have done more than three had it been for dinner!

                                                                                                                                                          2. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                            Good idea! Maybe bulk it up with a piece of fruit or a low cal beverage to make you feel fuller.....

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: roxlet

                                                                                                                                                                That sounds really good! If you add in a little avocado, even better. I bet served with a salad or soup or something it would be a little more filling.

                                                                                                                                                              2. Im very excited to say that my husband is finally getting onto the WW bandwagon.
                                                                                                                                                                He's been gaining his version of "baby weight" right alongside me, and this weekend enough was enough for him.
                                                                                                                                                                We took a long walk and he started to express some interest, and I think he's jumping feet in, with a gym membership this week and everything.
                                                                                                                                                                I imagine I'll be helping him to track for a bit, but I know it became kind of addicting for myself, so I bet he's off and running in no time.
                                                                                                                                                                It will honestly come down to portion control with him, I think. It's hard not to fill his plate or give him snacks. I guess we both have bad habits to break now.
                                                                                                                                                                I've gained 13 pounds, and I believe my experience with WW has helped me to NOT pack on the pounds with this pregnancy. Im not following the plan really, but the good habits and meal plans I developed up while on-plan have stuck with me. Lots of fruit and veg, and good dairy!
                                                                                                                                                                I'm enjoying reading your posts occasionally, and will be doing more of that for dinner inspiration now that we'll be a WW household.
                                                                                                                                                                Congrats to you all having so much success here. Very inspiring, and its reassuring to know I can always start this back up when the time is right.

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                                                                                                                                                                1. re: rabaja

                                                                                                                                                                  it will be so much easier for you if you both can eat the same food, rabaja. the BF often prepares WW-friendly meals and eats the same as i do. we've both been quite bad in the last couple months.

                                                                                                                                                                  good luck! and glad to hear that baby's growing away!

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: rabaja

                                                                                                                                                                    You're so lucky your husband is joining in! I live in a minefield of deliciousness where no quarter is given for the dieter.

                                                                                                                                                                  2. Spent the day yesterday with two friends who are also on WW - actively - not like me just going through the motions. My one friend read The Beck Diet, which she says works beautifully with weight watchers. I'm going to check it out.

                                                                                                                                                                    Today I've done very well with my eating, in spite of family drama. Tonight's dinner is one of my favorite comfort foods - a simple roast chicken with a few chunks of boiled potato and fresh green beans.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. I've been doing a little spring housecleaning, going through my collection of WW mags and pulling out the recipes I want to keep.

                                                                                                                                                                      there are several that I'm really looking forward to trying, keeping in mind that I'll have to bump up the seasonings because their recipes usually are very bland.

                                                                                                                                                                      DH and I are planning a trip to Wegmans this evening to pick out whatever we're having for Easter dinner... want ham, but the good ones are all so big and it's just the two of us... maybe some lamb, we'll see what looks good.