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Teddybear Feb 28, 2013 08:42 AM

As I await delivery of my glucose monitor, I have question: Does resistant starch hold any promise for a prediabetic?

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    sedimental Feb 28, 2013 12:36 PM

    I don't know about the prediabetic issue, but I have been using it in baked goods for over a year. My SO was having GI problems and calcium absorption problems. It really helped!

    It is my understanding that it can block carbs to a certain degree and slow the glucose rise. You should do some experiments with your monitor and report back ;)

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      goodhealthgourmet Feb 28, 2013 01:20 PM

      It's great that it helped with the GI issues - I know it's being studied for its effects on bowel health & inflammation.

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        sedimental Feb 28, 2013 01:47 PM

        Yes, in my house, my muffins are known as "poop muffins". Hahaha. You need to starts slow with anything that touts "bowel health". :D

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        johnseberg Dec 20, 2013 08:27 AM

        sedimental,

        Can you provide more details (re: "using it in baked goods")?

        I would like to increase resistant starch for the gut flora benefits. I've read a lot of blog posts on resistant starch, lately, and it seems like it could provide some profound benefits for a variety of conditions (at little risk).

        I would agree with other posts - using it where blood glucose is a concern could be dicey. I can see where subtle differences in preparation could lead to the ingestion of digestible starch, when resistant starch is expected.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistan...

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          sedimental Dec 20, 2013 02:52 PM

          I just started adding it to baked goods. You can't tell it is there as far as the texture or taste. I started adding under 3 Tablespoons per batch of 12 items ( muffins, crackers, cookies, etc). I mix it in the flour. I am generally a low carber, so I use alternative flours depending upon what I am making and I use alot of ground seeds and nuts in my baking.

          You have to be aware of the other products though. Like if you are also using flax meal, psyllium husk, or a sugar alcohol that might also have an effect on digestion (on it's own). The combo can be ...well....a bit much.

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            johnseberg Dec 20, 2013 03:11 PM

            I've never seen this product in a grocery store. The only thing I've heard much mention of is Hi-maize. Are you using this, or some other product? Where do you get it?

            Thanks,

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              sedimental Dec 20, 2013 03:34 PM

              I am sure that I ordered it online because I usually do with specialty products like this (usually from netrition.com). But it has been a long time. It came in a pretty big bag and I only use a few tablespoons in baked goods....so it should only last me another 5 years :)

              I will look at the brand (and type) when I get home. I believe it is High Maize.

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                sedimental Dec 20, 2013 03:37 PM

                You know, I think I ordered it from Honeyville Farms because that is where I usually get my almond flour.

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                  johnseberg Dec 20, 2013 04:56 PM

                  Yeah, they repackage it for consumer use. Thanks!

      3. goodhealthgourmet Feb 28, 2013 01:24 PM

        The research on how resistant starch affects postprandial insulin & glucose has shown promising results thus far, but there's not much out there. As sedimental said, you should really experiment to see how it affects you personally.

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          mcf Feb 28, 2013 01:29 PM

          If you're told you're PRE diabetic, think of it as being a little bit pregnant and proceed as if you are, because that's the reality.

          And be sure to test post meal blood glucose when it spikes the highest, most often this is between 45-70 minutes post meal. If you test later, you can miss the peak and fail to prevent progession and damage.

          I just don't see any point in adding starch to my diet, but if it's important to you, best to test test test. Here's a guide:
          http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/22229...

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            Teddybear Feb 28, 2013 02:33 PM

            That's what I was thinking too -- the reason I asked is that I cut out almost all carbs without great results and wondered if cutting the resistant starch carbs was a mistake. But I agree, only testing will provide the answer for me.

            Thanks everybody for chiming in.

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              mcf Mar 1, 2013 08:01 AM

              When you say "all carbs" are you referring to vegetables, too?

              I eat very low carb, but my plate, by volume, is filled with carbs. They're colorful, high fiber, many are leafy, none are starchy.

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                Teddybear Mar 1, 2013 08:29 AM

                No I ate plenty of vegetables -- lots of broccoli, mushrooms, onions, red peppers. Also lots of avocado and perhaps too much tomato. I cut out bread, crackers, cut my pasta intake tremendously (which was very hard for this Italian-American), dropped white rice and the bulgur I was used to eating. Did retain the steel cut oats for breakfast, however.

                I am hoping once I am able to test, test, test, I can figure out what works for me. I very much appreciate your postings.

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                  pinehurst Mar 1, 2013 08:34 AM

                  Hi Teddybear!
                  Don't be surprised (or discouraged) if some "healthy" foods don't work with your body's chemistry. My H is managing Type II diabetes, and loved whole grain hot (and cold) breakfast cereal (not talking Sugar Bomb Pops :-) or whatever), but his body "read it" as sugar and the spikes were too much for him.

                  I'm not saying this will happen to you---every "body" is different, but it's something to look for.

                  Wishing you good health!

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                    Teddybear Mar 1, 2013 10:13 AM

                    Thanks for the good wishes -- and sending the same your way.

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                    mcf Mar 1, 2013 09:43 AM

                    Be prepared for a rude surprise wrt the oatmeal. :-/

                    And the pasta. A lot of us find that even raw tomato spikes bg more than the carb count would lead us to expect.

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                      Teddybear Mar 1, 2013 10:12 AM

                      Having read lots of your posts I think I will be more disappointed than surprised, alas.

                      I'm eating the oatmeal to keep cholesterol in check and it seems to be doing that job. I was also cooking it with milk, for the calcium, but I've gone back to water. Oh how I wish I could just discover the magic food that doesn't spike bg, keeps my bones healthy, and lowers my cholesterol -- and tastes as good as pasta.

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                        mcf Mar 1, 2013 10:26 AM

                        Cutting carbs does the most to keep your lipids in healthy ratios, especially the most important things, triglycerides, and raises HDL.

                        I can tell you what I told Pinehurst long ago; if there's a carby food you want to splurge on at times, save it for after 4 p.m. when your diurnal hormone variation will typically allow you to tolerate it better.

                        I used to be the Pasta Prom Queen, and I never miss it now, but it was a gradual evolution. All the flavor is in the stuff you put on top, anyway...

                        The magic foods that do not spike bg at all in type 2 are protein due to only partial, and slow conversion and the strong insulin response it induces, and fat, which does not stimulate insulin nor glucagon. Fat, protein and low carb veggies are a diabetic's best friends.

                        You don't need me to tell you, though, just eat to your meter, and with some foods, you may just have to reduce the amount and/or move them to later in the day and make sure to have significant protein with every single snack and meal.

                        The lactose in milk is a spike food, btw, but a lot of low carbers get around that by using heavy cream instead, and watering it down or just using it straight. Much lower carb and way yummier. Fat, including saturated fat, does not promote disease as is often wrongly claimed, and a meta study should have finally put that old myth to bed.

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                          Teddybear Mar 1, 2013 11:24 AM

                          Thanks again. I'm really curious to learn what the meter has to tell me.

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                            Teddybear Mar 2, 2013 10:46 AM

                            Well, mcf, you were exactly right on the oatmeal. But I was pleased to see that my typical lunch of salmon and salad (including a few grape tomatoes) tested very low, and that blackeyed peas and barley tested normal.

                            But listen to this. When I went to the local CVS this morning to stock up on test strips, and they were completely out. Luckily it's not a crisis for me, but I imagine it could be for others.

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                              mcf Mar 2, 2013 11:00 AM

                              for type 1 diabetics, it's crucial to test pre and post meal, yes.

                              I don't know what meter you're using, but when testing a lot, the Walmart Relion is a very cheap, decent meter with the lowest cost test strips; that's where the real expense is.

                              Your lunch is the perfect diabetic meal... shouldn't cause a blip.

                              Test test test, at least at first! You're already collecting very valuable information today.

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