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4 days in boston with adventurous chow kids.

palmtree38 Feb 27, 2013 06:31 PM

We will be going to Boston and staying at the Fairmont Copely in a few weeks. We love going to a chowhound recommendation, DDD features or chasing a food truck. Our kids are well behaved and well travelled and do not eat at mcdonalds type places.

We will not have a car. We have alot of Chinese, thai, indian where we live. So we would be aiming for seafood, italian. Mexican or fun mom and pop Boston chow recommendations. We would travel in the train if it would be a must try or take a bus. Any walking restaurants to our hotel is a bonus.

Love a good happy hour too but read its not legal in Boston.

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    teezeetoo RE: palmtree38 Feb 27, 2013 07:34 PM

    a couple of neighborhood recommendations with kids that might be fun. Brasserie Jo serves breakfast through dinner, french bistro food, very nice to kids. DeLux Cafe is funky and fun. Salty Pig is a nice stop for charcuterie and a drink. Walk the kids through the gorgeous public library which has a very nice sports photo exhibit right now and a pleasant cafe inside. Take them to see the Harvard Museums, particularly the one with the glass flowers, walk through Harvard Square, and have burgers at Mrs. Bartley's Burgers or, more upscale, at Grafton or Russell House Tavern. Walk over to the Summer Shack and have some fried clams. Hit Neptune Seafood in the North End for an early or late lunch and some fabulous seafood. have fun. Enjoy Boston.

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      Science Chick RE: teezeetoo Feb 28, 2013 06:58 AM

      To expand on the Harvard museums, it's the Natural History Museum that has the glass flowers, as well as one of the most extensive collections in the world of gems and precious stones and taxidermed animals....you'll even see a duckbilled platypus! Sounds gruesome, but kids really love this spot:

      In the North End, I might not try for Neptune, it is really small and may not be the best best for family dining. Other options in the North End are L'Osteria (VERY family friendly and food is great). and don't miss Maria's or Modern Bakery for cannoli and other amazing Italian pastries. Don't get sucked into Mike's.

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        Berheenia RE: Science Chick Mar 6, 2013 06:11 AM

        +1 on Natural History Museum - kids love it and so do I. It's not a whole day trip like the MFA or the Museum of Science. There is Tasty Burger in Harvard Square that rivals Bartley's. It's a newish small group of burger restaurants. If you decide to do a tour of Fenway Park the original Tasty is behind the park in a converted garage complete with a family friendly pool table.

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          Berheenia RE: Berheenia Mar 6, 2013 09:14 AM

          They do have a happy meal for chow kids who don't do Mickey D's.

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            palmtree38 RE: Berheenia Mar 6, 2013 04:33 PM

            Thanks but no interest in Fenway park tour with no baseball game. We loveeee burgers and like to try unique burger joints.

            Good menu selection at tasty burger. Lol on the no micky d happy meal. We call it rotten ronnies

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              palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Mar 18, 2013 10:58 AM

              on second thought my spouse is trying to be convinced to go with boys for a Fenway park tour. so I will let them know about the original tasty burger joint. thanks

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                viperlush RE: palmtree38 Mar 18, 2013 11:55 AM

                Also by Fenway, if you want a quick bite and not necessarily a sit down meal there are the tacos (the fish are a board favorite) at La Verdad. There are also burritos and tortas for the non taco eaters. You can choose the restaurant side or just to take out (a couple small tables).

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          teezeetoo RE: teezeetoo Feb 28, 2013 10:27 AM

          I should have specified "walkable" for you: Brasserie Jo, Salty Pig, DeLux Cafe, Summer Shack,Boston Public Library, all walkable for you. Also walkable: Parish Cafe, La Voile, Bistro du Midi, Tico. Re: kids - at the MFA kids are free and the Samurai exhibit should be open (taking my grandsons who love the MFA already but especially weapons, armour, horses, musical instruments and, oddly enough, the jewelry!). Museum has a "free" day or evening you can check and a servicable cafeteria in the basement and a more expensive restaurant near the new american wing.

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            viperlush RE: teezeetoo Feb 28, 2013 10:51 AM

            And there is this for ways to save with the Children's Museum

            And the Institute of Contemporary Art which is not too far from the Children's Museum


            Flour, Hook, and Yankee Lobster work for both.

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              palmtree38 RE: viperlush Feb 28, 2013 11:46 AM

              Thanks so much!!! Will go friday night 5-9pm is $1 TARGET nights. Great savings.

              I really appreciate it

            2. re: teezeetoo
              greygarious RE: teezeetoo Mar 22, 2013 08:48 AM

              Brasserie Jo's "Uncle Hansi's Tart", which is Alsatian Onion Tart (caramelized onion-packed quiche) is one of the best things I have ever eaten.

              Daily Catch is known for a variety of squid preparations, including braised stuffed. I haven't been in many years but enjoyed the all-squid version of a fisherman's platter, which was 4 different squid dishes. It's a very small restaurant.

              You might think about the high tea at the Ritz, as a memorable experience. I've never been and don't know what it costs.

              There's a chocolate tour and a chocolate buffet somewhere....google or ask the concierge.

              The Helmand, in Cambridge, is a well-regarded Afghan restaurant owned by relatives of that country's controversial president, Hamid Karzai.

              I believe you can get to Salem, MA, by train. Witch Museum, and the Peabody-Essex Museum, which is America's oldest. It is a combination of paintings, crafts, and historical artifacts. Not very large, and something for everyone. www.pem.org

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              opinionatedchef RE: teezeetoo Mar 1, 2013 10:52 PM

              tz, i think your suggestions are mostly terrific but "walk to Summer Shack"?? Brattle St is beautiful and historic but Harv Sq to Summer Shack is quite the hike! (better the Red Line, me thinks!) But I would rec they save the fried clams for Neptune Oyster.Also because I think both the kids and parents will really be fascinated by the North End /Waterfront.

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                cwinboston RE: opinionatedchef Mar 2, 2013 08:19 AM

                tz is referring to the Summer Shack on Dalton Street next to the Sheraton.

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              lossless RE: palmtree38 Feb 27, 2013 08:38 PM

              Fogo de Chao in Copley. Brazilian bbq where they bring skewers of meat to your table. I went with a friend from Sao Paulo and she spoke of it highly. Bit pricey but little kids get discounts.


              Yakitori Zai in South End, specifically their weekend lunch menu of various Japanese ramen. I have not been yet, but you can see pictures and read a detailed review at the linked site below. The blogger mentions that the tomato ramen was a hit with kids.


              Enjoy your visit.

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                Fly RE: lossless Feb 28, 2013 10:26 AM

                There's lots of good Brazillian places in the Boston area (Medford and Somerville and Everett areas especially), but Fogo De Chao is a chain that is everywhere and overpriced.

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                  lossless RE: Fly Feb 28, 2013 11:10 AM

                  True it's a chain, but good enough food to earn praise from a Brazilian native. Also much easier for someone staying in the Copley area without a car than other worthy spots in Medford, Somerville or Everett.

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                    mkfisher RE: lossless Feb 28, 2013 11:31 AM

                    There are worthy spots in East Cambridge/Inman. No need to go all the way out to Everett or Medford.

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                  Fly RE: lossless Feb 28, 2013 10:27 AM

                  Clams will be breaded and fried, served with fries, onion rings, cole slaw, tartar sauce, ketchup...maybe some vinegar, if you're into that.

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                  ChocolateMilkshake RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 05:16 AM

                  Regarding food trucks, there is a spot behind your hotel where 2-3 trucks are parked at lunch time monday - friday. They list the schedule on this site and you want to look for the location: Back Bay - (3) Back Bay, Copley Square South at Trinity Place
                  Some reccomendations - the meatball sub from The Dining Car, Greek Salad with Falafel from the Chubby Chickpea and Ramen from Momogoose.

                  The truck rotations are changing in April, so there may be different truck options by then.

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                    palmtree38 RE: ChocolateMilkshake Mar 18, 2013 11:03 AM

                    There is not too much selection especial none on weekends. Is there another location that is close by i.e. 10 min walk or less?

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                      C. Hamster RE: ChocolateMilkshake Mar 19, 2013 05:25 PM

                      Skip dining car and momogoose!!!

                      Eat anything offered by chubby chickpea.

                      The take out restaurant in the JH building across the street from those trucks is pretty great.

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                      LeoLioness RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 07:16 AM

                      Have they had Ethiopian? They might enjoy Addis Red Sea in the South End.

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                        palmtree38 RE: LeoLioness Feb 28, 2013 09:09 AM

                        Never had ethopian .

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                          LeoLioness RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 09:19 AM

                          You eat with your hands (using the Injera bread as a utensil), which I always thought would appeal to children. Addis Red Sea is within walking distance of your hotel.

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                            hungrybruno RE: LeoLioness Mar 6, 2013 11:49 AM

                            +1 for Addis Red Sea - they default to regular wheat flour injera, but if you ask they'll bring you the kind made with teff flour instead.

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                        grant.cook RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 07:33 AM

                        Probably a cliche, but an Italian dinner and a cannoli or some other cream-filled delicacy in the North End..

                        Take the Silver Line over to Legal Harborside - beautiful water views, and good seafood.

                        How much Chinese do you have? There are some tasty spots in Chinatown - Q Hot Pot, Gourmet Dumpling House, that are really good for a visit.

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                          grant.cook RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 08:00 AM

                          And what's not legal in Boston is discounting alcohol in a happy hour fashion.. there are still deals on apps.. you might find dollar oysters but not 2 for 1 beers.

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                            palmtree38 RE: grant.cook Feb 28, 2013 09:09 AM

                            So most of the above are not walkable?

                            Is their certain Boston signature foods we should try? I have been hearing the lobster rolls are a must and clams. If so where would you sugest and not break the bank. We dont need fine dining .

                            We are arriving in 3 weeks so I am thinking boots are needed still for walking? We will arrive friday late morning tso maybe a truck to pick up food might be a easy lunch when we will not know our bearings.

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                              Science Chick RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 09:19 AM

                              Boston itself is a pretty small city and walking is fun and easy for the most part. For Cambridge, you will want to take the train (red line)...Also, from the South End to the North End it's much quicker to take either the Green or Orange lines to Haymarket and pickup your walk from there, where you can hit NorthEnd, Aquarium (if you are so inclined....lots of fun!) and the general Waterfront area.

                              Lobster rolls and clams are great, but the best ones to be had aren't actually in the city, but either up on the North Shore (~20-30 min drive Northeast) or hidden away in nearby suburban areas (Watertown, Roslindale, Medford). That said, good reviews on this board for Yankee Lobster and James Hook for a reasonably priced lobster roll downtown. I would not go to Summer Shack, which I think generally does a mediocre job with most things, even lobster sometimes.

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                                palmtree38 RE: Science Chick Feb 28, 2013 09:24 AM

                                Thanks. I heard yankee has good food but is fast food like???

                                Aquariums main tank is closed and penguins are on vacation so even with their construction under way discounts its still $80 for a family to go to. We may go to museum of science or childrens museum. Kids 7 and 8 1/2

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                                  viperlush RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 09:43 AM

                                  With those closures and prices, I wouldn't bother with going inside the Aquarium unless your family really wants to. You can always watch the seals in the outdoor exhibit infront of the aquarium and walk around back where you can peek in the sea lion/seal exhibit.

                                  Yankee does have it's share of fried seafood, quick service, and no frills interior. Both Yankee and Hook are near the Children's Museum. Also near the Children's Museum is Flour Bakery. There you can find great sandwiches for lunch.

                                  If you choose the Science Museum (my fav of the 3) there aren't many lunch options right there. But If you don't mind the walk (15 min?), there is Second Street Cafe for sandwiches. For dinner after the museum (15 min walk?) there is the Helmand for Afghan food. But you can easily tie together a stop in the North End for lunch before or dinner after.


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                                    palmtree38 RE: viperlush Feb 28, 2013 09:56 AM

                                    Thanks viperlush. My thoughts exactly! Half price admission maybe. many of the harvard museums as well run us $65 to go in ie the glass flowers. At least the museum of science you could get several hours of enjoyment for that price tag,

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                                      viperlush RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 10:05 AM

                                      The glass flowers are wonderful to see. The Museum of Science does have a small exhibit of glass sea life that I think were made by the same person who did the flowers.

                                      Just be warned the animal specimens at the Natural History Museum are not in the best shape (compared to the Smithsonian), and can appear a little creepy. But the museums are great, I always feel like I'm exploring an old relatives attic when I visit. And it's a nice way to get you out of Boston and into Cambridge.

                                      My favorite places in Harvard Square for a quick lunch are Pinochio's for a slice of pizza and Clover for vegetarian. If you don't mind the potential of a long line Mr Bartley's for interesting burgers can be fun for kids. There is a great bookstore next door (Harvard Books). And for a post museum snack I like ice cream from JP Licks or coffee/hot chocolate and cake at Burdicks. There is also a Sweet Cupcakes (the place Suri Cruise frequented) if you are into cupcakes.


                                      *Both Second Street Cafe and Mr Bartley's are cash only.

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                                        Allstonian RE: viperlush Feb 28, 2013 10:09 AM

                                        You are correct. (Persons, BTW, not person - it was a father-and-son team, Leopold & Rudolf Blaschka: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_...)

                                        I hadn't known about the sealife models - will have to get over to the MoS to see them!

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                                          viperlush RE: Allstonian Feb 28, 2013 10:19 AM

                                          There are over in the Making Models Exhibit. To keep if food related, we tend to go to the MoS Friday after work (open until 9pm) and then head to Kendall or Inman for dinner. If the OP doesn't mind a longer walk or a short cab right there are more options for eating if they go further into Cambridge.

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                                        femmevox RE: palmtree38 Mar 1, 2013 02:57 PM

                                        I believe paying admission to one Harvard Museum entitles you to all of them on the same day. So between the Natural History, the Peabody (anthropology), and the art museums, you could get more than 3 hours bang for your buck.

                                        Also I think Sunday mornings are reduced or free.
                                        Check it out.

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                                        palmtree38 RE: viperlush Feb 28, 2013 09:57 AM

                                        Also yankee lobster is a DDD feature so we could try the lobster rolls. Get the shirt and call it a day :)

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                                    Boston_Otter RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 10:02 AM

                                    Definitely try clams. Look for "whole belly clams". You might check out Faneuil Hall for tons of little dining booths; everyone can try what they want. It's always been a hit with people from out of town when I have visitors. Nearby there is Durgin-Park, which has all the quintessential Bostonian foods (baked beans in a crock, Indian pudding) but I can't give it a personal recommendation as I've never been.

                                    Hard to say if boots will be needed when you arrive. Right now most of the heavy snow's gone but we may get a bit more in the next few weeks. You should be okay with just walking shoes.

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                                      palmtree38 RE: Boston_Otter Feb 28, 2013 10:09 AM

                                      I am glad you mentioned the Faneuil Hall as I read up on this and sounds very appealing. Can we walk to here from Fairmont Copely?

                                      Where do you suggest whole belly clams. Are they served with baguettes or sauces?

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                                        LeoLioness RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 10:12 AM

                                        I would plan to take the T while you are here.

                                        The neighborhood you are staying in is good for a lot of things, but not so much for interesting dining options. It does have good subway access, however.

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                                          palmtree38 RE: LeoLioness Feb 28, 2013 11:48 AM

                                          T= taxi or train??

                                          Kids will enjoy train ride from the airport to back bay station

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                                            viperlush RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 11:50 AM



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                                          viperlush RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 10:21 AM

                                          Boston is small enough that you could, but unless you are big walkers and have the time to do it I would suggest taking the T.

                                          We only get fried clams on the Cape or North of the city. But if they are on the menu when you go,Yankee Lobster should produce good ones (any Chowhounds with experience?). Served plain (or with fries) on a plate or as a clam roll.

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                                            Boston_Otter RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 11:16 AM

                                            Walking from the Fairmont to Faneuil Hall is good 20-30 minute walk; do-able, but might be a bit chilly. The Green Line T (the subway) is right outside your door, though. Just take it to the Government Station center and you're there in about 10 minutes.

                                            The ones at the Fishermen's Net are good. They're usually served in a cardboard box with either tartar sauce or cocktail sauce but you can get them on a roll as a sandwich as well.

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                                              Science Chick RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 11:57 AM

                                              Clams are lightly coated, fried and served either alone (in a box, as noted above), on a plate (with sides of cole slaw and fries)or in a "clam roll", which is a New England style, top-split hotdog roll (preferably grilled on both sides). When clams are done properly, they are light and sweet, not greasy or rubbery. I frequently get a clam roll, because it is a smaller serving (less expensive), but I rarely eat the buns. Sauces are served on the side....I prefer tartar.

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                                                palmtree38 RE: Science Chick Mar 21, 2013 10:42 AM

                                                science chick where do you like to get these tasty clams from?

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                                                  Science Chick RE: palmtree38 Mar 21, 2013 01:30 PM

                                                  Sadly, the best places are outside of the city (mostly Northshore) and I have rarely had them anywhere in town. Island Creek Oyster Bar has been mentioned as doing a good job, and some also like Jasper's Summer Shack, but I can't speak first hand about that.

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                                              palmtree38 RE: Boston_Otter Mar 18, 2013 11:08 AM

                                              this is where the market is of all types of foods and entertainers? would this be a train or cab trip from westin copeley? I have injured my foot and may be on crutches this weekend for our trip .

                                        3. Beach Chick RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 09:18 AM

                                          Aloha palmtree!

                                          As a tourist that loves Boston, here are my fave's..
                                          Neptune's Oyster
                                          Langham hotel for the chocolate brunch
                                          The Clink for drinks and apps
                                          Taj hotel is lovely
                                          Craigie on Main
                                          Legal Test Kitchen..can be hit or miss..more miss but you might have better luck.

                                          Great food city and BOS board are a bunch of characters that will give you great advice!

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                                            palmtree38 RE: Beach Chick Feb 28, 2013 09:26 AM

                                            Oh my gosh Beach chick.we meet again. Hilarious. Hope you are keeping well. Not been on a flight since hawaii. This is a quick get away for my child's sporting event.

                                            I will check out your requests. I hope to see you again on the socal chowhound in future.

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                                              mkfisher RE: Beach Chick Feb 28, 2013 09:39 AM

                                              Clink is not somewhere that I would bring kids, and Legal Test Kitchen is just not good.

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                                                palmtree38 RE: mkfisher Feb 28, 2013 09:42 AM

                                                I just looked at those and it looks like without kids in tow. Ie date night

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                                                  C. Hamster RE: mkfisher Mar 19, 2013 05:32 PM

                                                  Clink can br sort of a loud cougar/40+singles hot spot. I'd probably suggest eastern standard or something closer for date night.

                                                  Legals test kitchen is not good. Don't go there.

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                                                    palmtree38 RE: C. Hamster Mar 20, 2013 01:14 PM

                                                    No date night!. Will be a bunch of familes that want to go out and if can walk to cool plaxe from fairmont coply even better.

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                                                palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 09:46 AM

                                                For a DDD place which would be your top one. Hubby likes to collect some T-shirts from various restaurants we have been to from their show.

                                                Yankee lobster
                                                Angelas cafe
                                                Italian express pizzeria
                                                Rina's place
                                                Sam la Grass
                                                Mike's City Diner

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                                                  mkfisher RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 09:56 AM

                                                  What is DDD?

                                                  That list is all over the map. Angela's and Rino's are in East Boston, Sam's is downtown, Mike's in the South End and YL in the Seaport.

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                                                    palmtree38 RE: mkfisher Feb 28, 2013 10:05 AM

                                                    Diners dives and drives a show on the food network with chef Guy Fieri

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                                                      viperlush RE: mkfisher Feb 28, 2013 10:06 AM

                                                      The Guy Fieri TV show Diners, Drive-ins and Dives

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                                                      Allstonian RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 10:13 AM

                                                      Well, I like Angela's Cafe the best, but I'm pretty sure they don't have t-shirts, so I can't tell if that would disqualify them.

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                                                        edamame RE: palmtree38 Mar 6, 2013 12:48 PM

                                                        Cutty's! DDD and they have t-shirts. And more importantly, they are awesome.

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                                                          palmtree38 RE: edamame Mar 18, 2013 11:09 AM

                                                          Cuttys? i didn't see that restaurant on their list.. will look again :)

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                                                            Berheenia RE: palmtree38 Mar 19, 2013 06:09 AM

                                                            It wouldn't work with crutches. It's a sandwich shop in Brookline with very limited seating. Are you at the Fairmont or the Westin? The Westin has covered access to Copley Place and the Prudential complex and both are very wheelchair friendly. The Fairmont is a stand alone building but still close to the covered marketplaces.

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                                                              palmtree38 RE: Berheenia Mar 19, 2013 08:10 AM

                                                              We are staying at the fairmont copely plaza. Our friends are at the westin and our hotel allows guests access to their pool.
                                                              Our friends mentioned italian express pizzeria as it is a DDD or Rina's place.
                                                              Sam la grassa and mikes diner look good too.

                                                              At this point closest to the hotel might be better getting 2 or more families there and me in crutches

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                                                        lossless RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 11:13 AM

                                                        Another kind of Brazilian that might be interesting is Muqueca in Cambridge - fish and seafood stews. Tasty stuff for cold weather. Kid-friendly. Lots of fruity shakes.


                                                        You could go to the Lechmere station by green line T, then a bus.

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                                                          grant.cook RE: lossless Mar 6, 2013 12:51 PM

                                                          Mmmm.. Muqueca is a good call - that's a dish you don't see a lot of. And its delicious..

                                                        2. KeyConcierge RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 12:20 PM

                                                          Great call on the food trucks! Chicken and Rice Guys are great, Taco Truck, Bon Me and Mei Mei too. Right by the Fairmont there will be a couple on Stuart Street as well as on the Boylston St. side of the Public Library. Check the food truck schedule as they rotate daily in the allotted spots.

                                                          Parish Cafe, Charlie's Sandwich Shoppe, Ole in Inman Square [a trip by train or 7-10 min taxi from Fairmont], Atlantic Fish Co and Sorellina are others mentioned/recommended.

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                                                            palmtree38 RE: KeyConcierge Feb 28, 2013 01:31 PM

                                                            Yes I'm excited about the food trucks. We went to the eat the street in waikiki . Great fun and eats. They have really caught on in the USA.


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                                                            kimfair1 RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 12:38 PM

                                                            Another good North End lunch option that's VERY budget friendly is Gallaria Umberto on Hanover St. Pizza, great arancini, calzones, and other goodies are served from a counter. They open at 11ish, close when they run out of food, usually by 2. Cash only, but the most expensive thing on the menu is $4.50 or so. A family of four can easily eat there for about $25-30. I always thought this place should be on DDD, but there's big enough crowds there already. Mon-Sat, closed Sunday, it's a bit easier during the week, but either way I recommend eating on the earlier side rather than later.

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                                                              palmtree38 RE: kimfair1 Feb 28, 2013 01:28 PM

                                                              Sounds great.. We dont have too much autentic italian near us. Most places are olive garden style serving dry pasta from a bag boiled up.I can make that home for 97cents and add my own homemade sauce.

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                                                                palmtree38 RE: kimfair1 Mar 24, 2013 05:53 AM

                                                                We decided to get off in north end for a lunch prior to museum of science. We end up at your recommendation of Umberto. Long wait but it was a great place. We tried their pizza, (5slices) 1 calzone, 1 arancini. ,2 lemonades, 1 red wine,1 beer, we hoped for the panzaroti but they just sold out. Total $26 we met the owner cery nice man. Def recomnd this place. Off we went to Mikes pastries. These are just wrong. Peanut butter, and a chocolate chip cannoli's boston cream puff and a lobster tail. Total $15 excelllent. Everyone we saw in town seemed to have a box of these goodies. We walked the pier, and stopped in a produce market. Got back on train to go to museum of science.It closed by 5pm so we had less then 2 hours to explore and for $84 we decided it was not worth it, ;(( shouldof timed it better

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                                                                  palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Mar 27, 2013 08:43 AM

                                                                  We needed a quick lunch and end up at the food trucks parked behind the Fairmont. We ordered The Dining Car famous meatball sub with melted cheese and rich italian sauce. My son and I shared it and more then enough. It was devine! $8 My spouse ordered from The Chicken and Rice Guys $8 he got a plate lunch of seasoned rice, salad, pita bread and plenty of chicken. We tried it with their various sauces they provide on the side $8. My daughter wanted a side of rice and pita bread and they accommodated her for $2 . We were all full and total $18 very good lunch for a family of four. highly recommend trying these two trucks for a fun and yummy lunch. We took it back to our hotel to eat paired with a wine :)

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                                                                    palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Mar 27, 2013 08:53 AM

                                                                    I have to recommend a great pub called Clary's down from the Fairmont it also accommodated larger groups. we had fantastic wings, steak blue salad, great beers on tap and lively loud crowd. We were a group of 12 with kids.

                                                                    I was disappointed in the kids menu with 3 options only!!! Grilled cheese, chicken fingers or pizza no deserts. Most kids under 12 are passed the grilled cheese days. My two kids ordered adult burgers off menu $12 each as not on kids menu. They were HUGE! The fries came in cute fryer baskets. My other complaint 8 year old had asked why her patty was pink . no questions asked they took her burger back and she got a new one. my 6 year old was 1/3 of burger when I discovered it was bright red in the middle, we called the waitress over and she was very displeased. Both burgers were complimentary off our bill and new burgers replaced COOKED. We wanted to go back but ran out of time despite the burger problem and food was reasonably priced big portions

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                                                                      palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Apr 15, 2013 08:03 AM

                                                                      We also tried the chicken and rice guys food cart along with the meatball sub from the dining car. Fantastic lunches and friendly staff. This was a lunch pick up we brought back to the hotel to eat.

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                                                                  dulce de leche RE: palmtree38 Feb 28, 2013 02:01 PM

                                                                  For those ages, the Museum of Science is GREAT. You can get there on the green line T stop. If the weather is at all nice, there is a fantastic park a very short walk from the MOS, North Point Park. Great playground, canals, grassy space right on the river to see duck boats enter the water, trains pass overhead, a drawbridge letting boats through, planes from Logan etc.

                                                                  In fact, here's what I would do. Have a good breakfast, get to the MOS, then go run around North Point Park, walk less than a mile to Courthouse Seafood for a late lunch/early dinner, a fish market which will cook up the seafood you choose. Christina's ice cream is another half mile walk in the same direction. Catch a cab home from there. (Or alternatively, walk to Muqueca for Brazilian food for lunch/dinner--a little closer than Courthouse to Christina's.)


                                                                  1. opinionatedchef RE: palmtree38 Mar 1, 2013 10:41 PM

                                                                    palm, welcome in advance! This info might look overwhelming at first, but since this is your first visit and you'll be here a few days, i hope it will be helpful:

                                                                    Guide to Boston by Areas and Restaurants:

                                                                    Dinner Spots that I consistently recommend,:
                                                                    Oleana- Turkish/Moroccan/Mediterr, very unique;Cambridge
                                                                    Erbaluce-Piedmontese; near your hotel
                                                                    Craigie on Main- Cambridge, very expensive
                                                                    OYa- very expensive
                                                                    Neptune Oyster- tiny, packed,fun
                                                                    Island Creek Oyster Bar- 5 min cab from your hotel; bustling, fun, great service and seafood
                                                                    Strip T's (in a 'suburb', 10 min cab from harvard square


                                                                    East Coast Grill, Cambridge.- fun, loud, crazy; Latin, seafood, BBQ, oysters, Bloody Mary bar.........

                                                                    Mistral- french high end, beautiful room, somewhat close to your hotel--

                                                                    Aquitaine - french bistro-- """""" South End

                                                                    Neptune Oyster-- North End
                                                                    COPLEY SQ:



                                                                    Boston Magazine 11/11 issue: 50 Best Boston Restnts. This list is a very comprehensive and convenient reference list for brief restnt. descriptions, phone numbers, website links of the 50:


                                                                    Also, I urge you to take advantage of the convenience of 24/7 reservations with a system like opentable.com. Reservations are a must here, and even if your plans may change, it's good to get reservations ASAP and then change them if needed, as your plans solidify. opentable has an easy system for changing or cancelling your reservation. Also, if a restnt shows no availability for a time you wanted to dine, best to call that restnt because they always have more seats than shown on opentable.

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                                                                      Scruffy The Cat RE: opinionatedchef Mar 6, 2013 05:05 AM

                                                                      Another vote here for Island Creek Oyster Bar. It's big and loud and the food is delicious- miles better than Summer Shack imho. It's busy, so an Open Table reservation is a must but Open Table does not = fancy/stuffy. I just had my teenagers there and trust me when I say that younger children are sometimes easier in restaurants than surly teens, but they loved it.

                                                                      It's sister restaurant, almost next door, is Eastern Standard Kitchen and I'd also bring kids there. It's not a kid restaurant but it's big and boisterous and there's a big menu with something for most people. Also can be quite delicious.

                                                                      ICOB is in Kenmore Square so an easy subway ride from where you are staying. Plus there's the bustle of Kenmore Square and being near Fenway Park and the Citgo Sign. It's really nice at night.

                                                                      I tend to be a lone naysayer in that I find Brasserie Jo only meh. It's sort of an average hotel brasserie with tasty fries. I have brought my kids there and they usually like it because of the steak and fries and bread but there are a million better versions of this type of restaurant in the US- even Boston, actually.

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                                                                      bobbert RE: palmtree38 Mar 2, 2013 08:50 AM

                                                                      With kids that age in tow I agree with the North End recs. You can have them lead from the Quincy Market area by following the freedom trail, literally a red line on the sidewalk. It's fun, educational (think Old North Church, Ben Franklin, Paul Revere, etc) and the great food mentioned above. Science Museum is a must at that age. Island Creek at Kenmore is just around the corner from Fenway which if they're baseball fans is cool even for a walk by.

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                                                                        palmtree38 RE: bobbert Mar 5, 2013 08:21 PM

                                                                        North end recs?

                                                                        To be honest in and out of cabs and trains sounds great but lookimg at busy itinarires sometimes close by fun places might be better when 3 families or more want to tag along and not go for fancy open table ressies.

                                                                        We are lookimg at doimg the childrens museum friday with the chaotic crowds for target event 5-9pm so we will want a early dommer at 4pm close to this.. Anything down the street to this thats a must as i am frazzled with directions

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                                                                          opinionatedchef RE: palmtree38 Mar 5, 2013 11:29 PM

                                                                          there's a new well hyped spot. Tavern Road, very nearby but doesn't open til 5pm, though it depends when you are coming, because they may have their other half open by then.

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                                                                            palmtree38 RE: opinionatedchef Mar 21, 2013 10:26 AM

                                                                            we are arriving tomorrow.. Tavern road is near our hotel you are saying? will google their menu

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                                                                              Alcachofa RE: palmtree38 Mar 21, 2013 01:59 PM

                                                                              No, Tavern Road is near the Children's museum. Practically across the street. It opens at 5.

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                                                                            teezeetoo RE: palmtree38 Mar 6, 2013 06:01 AM

                                                                            From the Children's Museum it's a short walk (about 4 blocks) to the Daily Catch on Norther Avenue, on the waterfront, for very good Sicilian food (better than most North End restaurants I believe).

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                                                                              Madrid RE: teezeetoo Mar 6, 2013 06:03 AM

                                                                              there is a daily catch in the north end....the original location...cash only.

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                                                                                teezeetoo RE: Madrid Mar 6, 2013 02:02 PM

                                                                                yes and we've one in Brookline but the one on the waterfront is walkable from the Children's Museum and a bit more upscale as well (though that's not necessarily a plus).

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                                                                                palmtree38 RE: teezeetoo Mar 21, 2013 10:27 AM

                                                                                We are going to the children's museum friday night and wanted a early dinner. So the daily catch would they be open about 4pm?
                                                                                and any signature dishes we should try?
                                                                                we will then go to the children's museum for a few hours then back to the hotel

                                                                          3. peregrine RE: palmtree38 Mar 2, 2013 01:43 PM

                                                                            Another possible "adventure" in addition to Ethiopian, which I second -
                                                                            Vietnamese: Pho Hoa on Beach St. in Chinatown serves Beef Seven Ways, meant for two people, so you could add a couple of seafood dishes if you're (as I infer) a family of four for a full dinner. The Beef 7 Ways, or Seven Styles of Beef, includes a lot of cook-it-yourself courses at the table, wrapping your own beef and vegetable rolls in wrappers which you soften in a pot of hot water, etc. It's fun for adults, so why not for kids, too? Naturally, this will take a while, so don't do it "before" something else.

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                                                                              palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Mar 18, 2013 10:26 AM

                                                                              Let me add that I have injured my foot and in a boot with possible crutches still. Revising my itinerary to non long walk destinations

                                                                              1. Bbdcnyc RE: palmtree38 Mar 18, 2013 10:57 AM

                                                                                palmtree38 - My family parallels yours two children (B-11 & G-9) we are going to Boston next week for four nights. I will piggyback your request and try out a good sampling of them and give report. We, like you are Jr Foodies live in NYC and walk everywhere. we are staying at the Intercontinental near Downtown. We have never been to Boston so I could not be happier to find your requests and research already done. Thank you!
                                                                                P.S. I just got my boot off (1 broken and three dislocated toes)

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                                                                                  palmtree38 RE: Bbdcnyc Mar 18, 2013 11:17 AM

                                                                                  seriously?? Ouch!! we leave friday and back tuesday. I have torn tendons and small fracture. I can walk on heel as ankle is intact. I have reserved a wheelchair at the hotel as well in case the walking is too much to get around to restaurants and attractions

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                                                                                    Bbdcnyc RE: palmtree38 Mar 18, 2013 11:48 AM

                                                                                    OUCH! I am just getting back to very light exercise (Today)! But I remember the pain! who would have thought such a small injury would affect everything you do???
                                                                                    Anyway, we arrive on Monday and depart on Friday. Wow that is tight!
                                                                                    I'll try to post immediately so you have some time to react.
                                                                                    Although we did Key West last year off of Chowhound, and all the posts were spot-on! So I'm expecting that, with all the recommendations you received, you (and now I) will be GOLDEN on this trip!!!

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                                                                                      palmtree38 RE: Bbdcnyc Mar 18, 2013 12:33 PM

                                                                                      I have used this board for St. Petes, san diego, hawaii, and Arizona I think too. The hardest part for me is figuring it out on a map and in if its too out of way or not.this is first trip with no car and dont want to spend a fortune on cab rides.

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                                                                                        Bbdcnyc RE: palmtree38 Mar 18, 2013 12:52 PM

                                                                                        Check out this old post from July last year:
                                                                                        It may help on the mapping part. It's for a different season but it is very extensive and detailed. on timing and locations.

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                                                                                          Alcachofa RE: palmtree38 Mar 19, 2013 08:27 AM

                                                                                          Just get a week-long t-pass. Even for four days, you will more than get your money's worth. No need for cabs at all.

                                                                                          With or without foot problems, a car would be more of a hindrance than an asset in Boston.

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                                                                                            palmtree38 RE: Alcachofa Mar 19, 2013 11:59 AM

                                                                                            I just double checked and kids under 12 are free on train. so the $2.50 is per adult one way? If kids are free may be worth getting one for spouse and I.

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                                                                                          palmtree38 RE: Bbdcnyc Mar 21, 2013 10:19 AM

                                                                                          WE WILL JUST MISS YOU AS WE LEAVE TUESDAY.. ARE YOU THERE FOR DANCE BY CHANCE?

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                                                                                            Bbdcnyc RE: palmtree38 Mar 23, 2013 09:12 AM

                                                                                            No we are just looking to get out of NYC and do something cool. Too bad we will miss one another. We are staying at the Intercontinental so if you find any good breakfast stops let me know. It seems that is the one hole I currently have in my plan. Also my wife is concerned about the potential of a "Lost" day by going to Salem? But I think it will be worthit?? Any comments.

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                                                                                              greygarious RE: Bbdcnyc Mar 23, 2013 10:08 AM

                                                                                              Salem is worthwhile. There's good seafood, the Witch Museum, old ships, and the marvelous Peabody-Essex Museum (America's oldest), which has a diverse collection of American and international (mostly Asian) works of art and craft; something to appeal to all ages. www.pem.org

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                                                                                                Madrid RE: Bbdcnyc Mar 23, 2013 10:10 AM

                                                                                                Salem has a lot of beautiful historic architecture and a great museum, the Peabody Essex, and lots of kitschy witch stuff. Search Salem for eats...

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                                                                                                  Bbdcnyc RE: Bbdcnyc Mar 24, 2013 09:18 AM

                                                                                                  Grey& Madrid - thnx we are sold on Salem. Now I just need a few Breakfast places. We are headed to BOS tomorrow evening so 3 cheap but GOOD B'fast spots in or around Intercontinental would be awesome!!

                                                                                        3. MC Slim JB RE: palmtree38 Mar 19, 2013 09:22 AM

                                                                                          The first five entries in this thread documenting an old chow crawl of mine with a young relative: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6452... would still work, and there are only about 50 other worthwhile options in the immediate neighborhood.


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                                                                                            capegal RE: palmtree38 Mar 19, 2013 02:00 PM

                                                                                            I'd give Coppa or Toro, and of course, ICOB for seafood.

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                                                                                              palmtree38 RE: capegal Mar 19, 2013 03:05 PM

                                                                                              P,s we love to bring bag spices, sauces, marinades etc from places we travel to is their any you could recommend only found in Boston??

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                                                                                                palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Mar 21, 2013 10:18 AM

                                                                                                ANYONE HAVE INFO ON SPICES? MARINADES SAUCES EXCLUSIVE TO BOSTON? WE LOVE TO COOK AND BRING BACK ITEMS FROM PLACES WE TRAVEL TOO

                                                                                                LEAVING TOMORROW WOOHOOO..
                                                                                                I DO HOPE THE SNOW IS GONE

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                                                                                                  Bbdcnyc RE: palmtree38 Mar 22, 2013 04:57 AM

                                                                                                  I read on Yelp go to Monica's Salumeria for fresh pasta, sauces and other Italian groceries. Good luck! We leave on Monday and can't wait!!!

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                                                                                                    bear RE: Bbdcnyc Mar 23, 2013 01:25 PM

                                                                                                    Monica's is great. Excellent sandwiches, prepared foods and fresh pasta. Their Italian is one of my favorite sandwiches in the Boston area. They are really passionate about quality. I'm not sure about local-to-Boston, though.

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                                                                                              palmtree38 RE: palmtree38 Mar 21, 2013 10:25 AM

                                                                                              LEAVING TOMORROW!!! We will be arriving for early morning and will be hungry.. We are heading to Fairmont Copley by train. Is there a good reasonable breakfast or lunch near by we should try? as we will not know our bearings yet.

                                                                                              Also anyone know how we can get any discount on the Museum of Science as its about $80 for a our family to go which is fair amount. We are not doing enough tours to do the go boston card etc.

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                                                                                                femmevox RE: palmtree38 Mar 21, 2013 10:51 AM

                                                                                                The Cambridge Public Library has some free passes you can sign up for for the Museum of Science. I believe you have to be a Cambridge library card holder--if you have a Cambridge friend, they could try and reserve some passes for you.
                                                                                                Probably not enough for your whole family--but every bit helps, right?

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                                                                                                  palmtree38 RE: femmevox Mar 21, 2013 07:00 PM

                                                                                                  unfortunately we don't know any cambridge residence. sigh

                                                                                                  i will ask our concierge maybe they have a few dollars off passes

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                                                                                                    bobbert RE: palmtree38 Mar 22, 2013 07:41 AM

                                                                                                    Having visited often when my kids were younger and I was on a tight budget, I always recommend the "T" ferry (very inexpensive and might be included in a visitor t pass) which leaves from the wharf next to the aquarium for about a 15 minute ride to Charlestown to visit the USS Constitution - admission and tours are free, the ferry ride is cheap and the views are spectacular. It's a pretty short walk to the ship from the ferry (the next pier over) but not sure how you are on crutches. Kids should enjoy and get an education at the same time. To keep this food related, there's nothing good to eat near the Constitution. Oh yeah, open Thursday - Sunday this time of year.

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                                                                                                      palmtree38 RE: bobbert Mar 22, 2013 08:23 AM

                                                                                                      Were here!, we end up at Shaw's and picked up groceries for room and made some sandwichs, now time for wine pick up.
                                                                                                      I bought a $18 train pass

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                                                                                                        Madrid RE: bobbert Mar 23, 2013 10:08 AM

                                                                                                        oh yes, we love this boat trip and you are right, not much good to eat around the Constitution, but there is an ice cream shop and a Sorelle with sandwiches a bit of a walk away. The Tavern on the Water right there at the ferry port has closed...hope someone opens it with better food!

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                                                                                                    Berheenia RE: palmtree38 Mar 21, 2013 03:29 PM

                                                                                                    Consider the Harvard Museum of Natural History - it's a lot cheaper and you can eat in Harvard Square - Bartley's or Tasty Burgers...

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                                                                                                      kt1969 RE: palmtree38 Mar 22, 2013 05:05 AM

                                                                                                      There is also City Pass http://www.citypass.com/boston that saves 45% on admission to MOS, Aquarium, MFA, Harvard Museum of Natural History and Skywalk...prices look decent if you are going to a couple of museums.

                                                                                                    2. Beach Chick RE: palmtree38 Mar 24, 2013 07:30 AM

                                                                                                      Have fun in BOS palmtree!
                                                                                                      Wish my fave Locke-Ober was still open you could take the kids to see the oldest resto and have the JFK stew..sublime.

                                                                                                      Report back.

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                                                                                                        palmtree38 RE: Beach Chick Mar 27, 2013 08:33 AM

                                                                                                        Were back beach chick, great city too much walking for me in. Boot cast but made the best of it.

                                                                                                      2. Berheenia RE: palmtree38 Mar 24, 2013 09:48 AM

                                                                                                        Jaspar White's Summer Shack on Dalton St has a "Happy Hour Menu" Mon - Fri only


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                                                                                                          owades RE: Berheenia Mar 24, 2013 10:35 AM

                                                                                                          Massachusetts law prohibits free or discounted alcoholic beverages, the normal meaning of the term "happy hour"; this law was passed in response to a horrible drunk-driving accident in 1984. The law doesn't prohibit discounting food at specific hours, and many restaurants—like Summer Shack—offer pre-dinner-rush promotions. These can be called "early bird" or "happy hour," but as long as they don't include reduced-price alcohol, they're legal.

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