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sandiasingh Feb 26, 2013 09:24 AM

Ina Garten Frozen Dinners?

Isn't it enough to be the Barefoot Contessa? Why do people do these things. This is so counterintuitive to her brand.

Major FAIL, Ina.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02...

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    cuvee31 May 12, 2013 06:10 PM

    Everyone votes fail without trying them - is that fair? Ina's a business after all. I admit I was skeptical when I learned of the new frozen venture and decided to wait until they arrived at Safeway,

    I was very surprised, up to this time the only frozen meals I've found "acceptable" were in France or Italy. They seem to know something we don't. Ina's have a very different approach to what you do with the food when you open and prepare it. Still keeping exactly to the time suggested on the package, the results are good. With a little help (salt, pepper, soy, chili) to suit your own taste - they're better than good. Wouldn't you add a little salt to something you cooked yourself?

    Give her a break - they're less expensive than the crap P.F.Changs and way better.

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    1. re: cuvee31
      mcf May 12, 2013 06:17 PM

      "Everyone votes fail without trying them - is that fair? "

      Not in this thread, not by a long shot.

      I just think folks are so accustomed to celebrity chefs/cooks putting their names on crap <*cough, Paula Deen, cough*> that the index for suspicion is kind of high.

      But despite her relaxed manner in the kitchen on her show, she's completely obsessive about making sure what she puts out meets her high standards. Credible reports say she's turned out a better than pedestrian frozen product, as has been discussed in this thread.

      1. re: cuvee31
        HillJ May 12, 2013 08:06 PM

        Then you missed my comment up thread and the SuperTaster review over @ CHOW just to name a few.

        What's with the word "everyone"....ugh.

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          chowser May 13, 2013 08:45 AM

          We need ChemK to do a poll here because I thought there were more for her doing this than against.

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            cuvee31 May 13, 2013 03:37 PM

            I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I just happened to get a run of negatives without running into a positive. Maybe I rushed to judgment when I thought that Ina was being unfairly slammed. I'll be more careful in future. Promise.

            1. re: cuvee31
              HillJ May 13, 2013 04:07 PM

              That's all I was asking :)
              It's way too easy to let the passion of opinions on CH appear completely negative. Slow down and enjoy the ride!

        2. Kris in Beijing Apr 10, 2013 01:54 PM

          Side note-- this may not be true of Ina specifically, but not all chefs "own" their own name.

          The company that produces their show, publishes their cookbooks, or funds their restaurant "owns" their name.

          When you see a chef shilling on QVC, HSN, or The Chew, Target, WalMart, or wherever, do you think it was THEIR idea or the demand of the juggernaut behind their continued success?

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          1. re: Kris in Beijing
            pamf Apr 10, 2013 02:15 PM

            Definitely agree. In this case there was a legal issue about the brand name "Contessa". I haven't really read anything that spells out all the details, but apparently, this product line is a sort of settlement agreement between Ina (the Barefoot Contessa) and Contessa Foods (they produce frozen seafood and frozen meals under their own name).

            And, a lot of people are getting hung up on the Walmart issue. As far as I have read, Walmart has nothing to do with the production of these items. They are just one of the many retailers who have agreed to carry the product line.

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              Kris in Beijing Apr 10, 2013 08:30 PM

              I suspect the WalMart hang up has to do with demographics and target markets... a portion of CHers will assert that they would NEvah set foot into a WM.

              To be stereotypical in both directions, some people can't imagine a WalMart shopping foodstamp carrying single mother of multiple children on welfare being intrigued by an Ina creation. For $9. For 2 gourmet servings.

              1. re: Kris in Beijing
                chowser Apr 11, 2013 04:32 AM

                I think Target/Costco which has a higher income customer base might have been a better market.

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                  Leepa Apr 11, 2013 05:35 PM

                  Are you certain they aren't in Target stores?

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                    chowser Apr 11, 2013 06:09 PM

                    They could be. I was just going by the article that said it would be in Safeway and Walmart and the whole Walmart thing took its own life in this thread.

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                      Leepa Apr 12, 2013 04:53 AM

                      Though I doubt they'll hit Costco, I could totally see them in Target though it isn't mentioned in this. Love the aside about Jeffery being able to understand the instructions.

                      "The meals will retail for around $8.99 and are meant to serve two people. Ina stated at her recent appearance in Delaware that the meals will be hitting grocery stores this weekend. Contessa Premium Foods CEO Don Binotto told Undercurrentnews that the grocery stores that will be shipped the meals include: Shaws, Wakefern, Price Chopper, WalMart, Safeway, Publix, Ahold, Meijer, and Marsh Supermarket. From reading both articles, it looks like there will be nine different Barefoot Contessa meals including a chicken and shrimp jambalaya, a shrimp scampi linguine, beef bourguignon, and sesame chicken.

                      Hopefully Ina's frozen food line gets better reviews than Guy Fieri's Frozen Smore's Pizza, and her husband Jeffrey can understand the directions on the packaging."

          2. pamf Apr 10, 2013 01:35 PM

            Chow's Supertaster has deemed them worthy:

            http://www.chow.com/videos/show/super...

            I'm still not sold, the price is high for two small portions. I think you could make the equivalent from scratch, with better ingredients, with out too much more effort.

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              chowser Apr 10, 2013 02:45 PM

              Thanks for pointing that video out. The portions seem REALLY small, not enough for two unless you added a heaping serving of vegetables. The three he tried could definitely be done at home w/ little effort. The shrimp scampi w/ pasta comes w/ uncooked shrimp so it's not that much of a stretch to do it all yourself.

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                pamf Apr 10, 2013 03:21 PM

                Here's her recipe, just add some broccoli:

                http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/in...

            2. joharkins Mar 15, 2013 11:42 AM

              Don't do it, Ina!

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                laliz Mar 12, 2013 01:02 PM

                I opened this thread because of the title. I am very interested in trying Ina Garten Frozen Dinners. I don't think she would put her name on something that wasn't good.

                There is a niche market for higher end frozen dinners, in my mind this is very smart marketing.

                I don't like Wal*Mart. Hope they are available at other stores, so I can at least try them.

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                  laraffinee Mar 12, 2013 05:53 AM

                  What I find really interesting is that Ina Garten and Martha Stewart both come from a business background. I don't recall that either one had any professional culinary training. Yet, each has built a huge culinary empire. It is business savvy, not culinary skills that made it work. There are probably some really talented chefs behind the scenes who make this all happen - talented chefs on salary with great culinary skills and little to no business sense. This happens in other industries also - cosmetic companies started by MBA's who know squat about cosmetics but tons about business.

                  The key here is the MBA not the culinary degree.

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                    foodieX2 Mar 12, 2013 05:55 AM

                    Somehow I find it hard to believe that Ina could have successfully run a catering company without some culinary talent.

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                      monavano Mar 12, 2013 06:22 AM

                      I get the impression that Ina's culinary acumen was limited to X amount of dishes that she got very good at in her catering business.
                      She knew how to please crowds with bulk cooking. She still goes back to her BC's recipes, but in a smaller scale.
                      I think it's somewhat like having an innate sense of taste and what works. Michael Kors and Nina Garcia were known for saying that you can't teach "taste" on Project Runway. Some sartorially talented contestants will always turn out one pageant dress after another.
                      I think Ina's just got "it" in the kitchen and I've never had a fail when using her recipes and I think that it's because her motto is "how easy it that!".
                      Makes me more at ease at trying something new.

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                        mcf Mar 12, 2013 08:01 AM

                        It was a very successful, raved about business.

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                        DaisyM Mar 12, 2013 07:37 AM

                        Ina was a policy wonk in DC. She's a self taught cook and was known for giving great dinner parties. She bought a store in the Hamptons that did prepared foods called "The Barefoot Contessa.

                        Martha started as a model and then a stock broker and then a caterer.

                        You don't need an MBA to start a successful business. Example Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.

                        1. re: laraffinee
                          mcf Mar 12, 2013 08:01 AM

                          You're confusing formal training for talent, and lack of it for no talent.

                          Ina is not only a very talented cook, she's also the source of some of the most easy to reproduce, successful recipes for any cook, due to her diligence in making sure they're complete and foolproof.

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                            monavano Mar 12, 2013 08:38 AM

                            Ina is not only a very talented cook, she's also the source of some of the most easy to reproduce, successful recipes for any cook, due to her diligence in making sure they're complete and foolproof.
                            ****
                            I think that's a great motto that sums up Ina; be complete and be foolproof.
                            I think that goes to the heart of the success of and confidence in her brand.
                            I remember watching Paula Deen's show a couple years ago and she was laughing about not ever testing a recipe she put in her book, as in, I don't think she ever even made it.

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                              chowser Mar 12, 2013 10:27 AM

                              I can't remember what show I saw this on but the producers were talking about working with Ina in developing her show, She said she had gotten up in the middle of the night because she had an idea for a good mac and cheese. They said they knew then that her show would be a success. She's not being a chef at a five star restaurant; she's making food that we all eat on a daily basis. Working to find a great brownies recipe and sharing it doesn't take a culinary degree. I sound like I'm such a big Ina fan and I'm really not. I've had success with her recipes for the most part but I never intentionally seek her recipes out. But, I'm surprised how reviled she is for her success.

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                                latindancer Mar 12, 2013 11:07 AM

                                <I'm surprised how reviled she is for her success>

                                I agree. It's difficult to understand the haters.
                                Are they jealous? Why are they so adamant with their hatred?
                                Dig deep haters....
                                What is it?

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                                  chowser Mar 12, 2013 11:49 AM

                                  I also don't understand the derision of middle America and her selling food to them. How is it better to be selling only upscale food to the wealthy?

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                            catroast Mar 9, 2013 12:44 PM

                            I wish she would market her custom made shirts instead

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                              coney with everything Mar 11, 2013 04:31 AM

                              Ah, her "shents"? That's what they used to call them on the late Food Network Humor website

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                              Pwmfan Mar 9, 2013 07:35 AM

                              It should be all about the food or product being hawked. Just as I learned as a teenager that the ability of a rockstar to write a compelling and sensitve song did not mean that said rockstar was not a screaming a**hole I learned as an adult to ignore the celebrity name and evaluate the procuct (be it fashion, food or cookware) on its own merits. I'm no big Mario Batali fan but I bought and love his enameled cast iron lasagna pan; my purchase had nothing to do with his name and everything to do with the quality of the pan. I would base my decision of whether or not to purchase one of these dinners more on the list of ingredients than Ina Garten 's name on the package.

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                                ttoommyy Mar 9, 2013 09:41 AM

                                "It should be all about the food or product being hawked. Just as I learned as a teenager that the ability of a rockstar to write a compelling and sensitve song did not mean that said rockstar was not a screaming a**hole..."

                                Absolutely true. I learned early on that most "celebrities" (in my case, rock stars as well) are nowhere near who we think they are from the the very limited amount of time we see them on TV or read about them on the Internet or in magazines. That is what I tried to say way up above. The people who are aghast at Ina selling frozen meals at Walmart think they really know her, but they can never really know her from what is allowed to be seen on TV, etc.

                                Buy and try the product. Taste it with an open mind. Then report back here, yea or nay.

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                                  Bacardi1 Mar 10, 2013 07:34 AM

                                  "Buy and try the product. Taste it with an open mind. Then report back here, yea or nay." ~ ttoommyy

                                  At Ina's prices? No thanks. You post a nice sentiment, but all that does is put $$ into Ina's coffers. If it were cheaper, perhaps I'd give it a try some time. But even then, it frankly gives me the heebie-jeebies to buy & try something when it has a celebrity's mug or name plastered on it.

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                                    ttoommyy Mar 10, 2013 02:35 PM

                                    First, I doubt it will be very expensive as it is being sold at Walmart and other big box stores. Second, if you refuse to try it then you do not have the right to dismiss it out of hand. Common sense.
                                    Third, my comment was not directed just to you, Bacardi1.

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                                      mcf Mar 10, 2013 02:47 PM

                                      How can you dismiss it "out of hand" if you *do try it?? ;-)

                                      Anyone is entitled to an opinion.

                                      Maybe she's offering these foods to her non cooking fans who really like her and want to taste her food?

                                      I don't buy frozen meals, but if hers are better than what's out there, they'll do well with folks who do. If they're not, they won't.

                                      The market will decide.

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                                        juliejulez Mar 11, 2013 10:51 AM

                                        Her Facebook posting about it said they will cost about $8.99. To me that sounds expensive. I can crank out a scratch skillet meal for way less than that with a bit of careful shopping and taking advantage of sales.

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                                          Jay F Mar 11, 2013 11:34 AM

                                          I got an e-mail from BC today about them. They're only available at Shop Rite so far. Since I don't live in NJ, no frozen Ina for me.

                                          I haven't had a frozen dinner since my mother died in 1977, but I might try one, if only to be able to know what I'm talking about when I talk about it.

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                                            pamf Mar 11, 2013 01:48 PM

                                            That's about a dollar or so more than the current competition in the bagged frozen dinner category. Of course, these kinds of items are often on special, or have coupons. At the supermarket yesterday there was a big display of the Bertolli dinners for $5.99 (regularly 7.99).

                                            However, even at the discounted price, that is still a lot of money for what you are actually getting. A few small pieces of meat, frozen vegetables, sauce and pasta or rice.

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                                          ipsedixit Mar 10, 2013 07:40 PM

                                          At Ina's prices? No thanks. You post a nice sentiment, but all that does is put $$ into Ina's coffers. If it were cheaper, perhaps I'd give it a try some time. But even then, it frankly gives me the heebie-jeebies to buy & try something when it has a celebrity's mug or name plastered on it.
                                          ______________________________________

                                          That's an odd statement.

                                          Why do you have an aversion with Ina profiting from your money?

                                          You do realize that any time you buy something, someone is profiting from your money, right?

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                                            DaisyM Mar 11, 2013 02:52 AM

                                            Our entire economy benefits when a business is successful. More people are employed and more taxes are generated.

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                                          latindancer Mar 11, 2013 09:02 AM

                                          The naysayers of Ina and her successes are *not* going to go out and purchase her products.
                                          If they *do* purchase her product, and it's stellar, they now have nothing to bitch about when it comes to her success.

                                      2. Frosty Melon Mar 4, 2013 09:15 AM

                                        It's an extension of a brand, nothing more. Sure, it might not jive with one of her principles which is to use fresh this, fresh that (though she does use frozen vegetables in dishes like pot pie).

                                        There's really nothing new here -- she already sells packaged dry cake mixes through retailers like Crate & Barrel. If they're lousy, they probably won't sell. I know I was not fond of the one lemon cake mix I made years ago, and I haven't been tempted to buy another one. But I'm still a fan.

                                        As has already been stated here, she's got bills to pay, and endeavors (whether charitable or not) to fund, just like countless others.

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                                          DaisyM Mar 8, 2013 01:42 PM

                                          I have given Ina's boxed brownie mixes as hostess gifts and have been told they are amazing. I have several of her cookbooks and have enjoyed them all.

                                          When did it become a bad thing in this countryto start a business and make it grow? That's exactly what Ina Garten has done.

                                          It seems that people who aren't successful somehow think that those who are, have stolen from them. Are people really so jealous and petty that they attack her for working hard and spending HER money to live well? How does that take anything away from you?

                                          I wish I could afford an apartment in Paris...but I sure don't resent Ina for having one.

                                          I wish her and every entrepreneur in this country lots of success.

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                                            Leepa Mar 8, 2013 02:25 PM

                                            Haven't you heard... only people with children should be successful. (insert eye roll here)

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                                              nofunlatte Mar 9, 2013 04:30 AM

                                              Like, Leepa! Ha, ha!

                                              I confess that I don't get all the hate, here ( and I'm saying this as someone who has never purchased a Barefoot Contessa or Garten-branded item, save for a cookbook I bought my sister for a gift).are they produced in sweatshop conditions or something? If so, I would have an issue, but I haven't seen that mentioned in the thread.

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                                                Monica Mar 11, 2013 06:30 AM

                                                Before your eye balls get stuck up there.
                                                Geeez, that was just one of the examples or reasons why I was surprised she started the frozen dinner but not the only reason. Just surprised to see Ina trying so hard to make extra $$$ because some people were saying there must be financial reasons why she is trying to make extra money which I don't think is the reason.

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                                                  Leepa Mar 11, 2013 06:13 PM

                                                  Huh? It's usually financial reasons why people try to make money. What other reason would someone have? And I doubt she had to try all that hard. Probably she was approached by some company to come up with the concept of these meals and attach her name to them. It profits the company as well as her. People are employed making them. I don't see the problem.

                                                  Thanks for your concern, but my eyeballs are fine. ; )

                                              2. re: DaisyM
                                                emily Mar 8, 2013 03:19 PM

                                                I think the recent Wall Street scandals have tainted the idea of success and linked it with greed in many people's minds, particularly when they feel critical of the business venture itself.

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                                                  DGresh Mar 8, 2013 03:43 PM

                                                  And not to put this on too political a bent, I think the fact that loads of "regular folks" haven't had a raise in years (assuming they still have a job) tend to be a bit tired of the ones at the top that seem to reap rewards regardless. I'm not upset at Ina's latest venture, but there's a bit of "fatigue" out there among many who think the system is stacked against them.

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                                                    DaisyM Mar 8, 2013 05:29 PM

                                                    The demonization of those who have started a business, worked hard, and earned money the old fashioned way is wrong.

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                                                    coney with everything Mar 11, 2013 04:30 AM

                                                    Success is fine. I just think that when you are all about "good" ingredients, and based on my experience no frozen prepared meal has ever been particularly good, it's a bit hypocritical to put your name on them.

                                                    "How bad can that be?" Probably bloody awful.

                                              3. junescook Mar 2, 2013 08:50 AM

                                                Emeril has had sauces and seasonings and nobody seemed to complain.

                                                Mario Bario Batali has some (quite good) jarred sauce and nobody seems to complain.

                                                Giada D, T Keller, and W. Puck all sell product. No disses.

                                                I'm not criticising until I try.

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                                                  Jay F Mar 2, 2013 09:25 AM

                                                  <Giada D, T Keller, and W. Puck all sell product.>

                                                  Frozen tasting menus from Per Se?

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                                                    JonParker Mar 3, 2013 11:45 PM

                                                    Call me one who complained about Emeril. I borrowed (thankfully didn't purchase) one of his cookbooks, and 75% of the recipes called for one variety or another of Emeril's seasonings. I thought selling a cookbook that was an ad for your products was in poor taste.

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                                                      Bacardi1 Mar 4, 2013 05:34 AM

                                                      Well, one thing in Emeril's favor is that he happily provides the recipe for his original "Emeril's Essence Creole Seasoning" online &/or with any recipe that calls for it. I make it up myself (minus most of the salt) & keep a jar of it in the pantry. As far as his other seasonings go, I imagine they're no different than any other Italian seasoning, chicken rub, etc., etc., & you could easily use your own.

                                                      Sad, but he definitely wasn't quite as "commercial" prior to Martha Stewart getting her hooks into him.

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                                                    jarona Mar 1, 2013 11:20 AM

                                                    Wow! Now THAT is both daunting and disgusting. I'm a big fan of Ina---her cookbooks are seriously never-fail. Every single recipe that is "hers" that I have made has been a keeper. That being said, I also enjoy her show--she "seemingly" believes in fresh, sustainable and seasonable products AND is a big believer in simplicity. OK. So WHY is she doing processed, frozen dinners? You know, I'm so sick of this "branding" garbage. She made a great success of The Barefoot Contessa..which is great. However, I did have a little twinge of "WTF" when I saw her packaged brownie mix and other mixes at Williams Sonoma--this frozen dinner garbage makes me ill. Too bad--no will buy.

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                                                      latindancer Mar 2, 2013 08:07 AM

                                                      <I saw her packaged brownie mix and other mixes at Williams Sonoma>

                                                      Okay, I'm assuming you *saw* and didn't *purchase* and prepare. I've used several of them and they're stellar.
                                                      I'm at a loss why people are hating on Ina. So, she wants to sell her frozen food at Walmart?

                                                      <Too bad--...>

                                                      Sounds like you're hoping? I, for one, having never stepped foot in a Walmart in my life, will drive whatever it takes to purchase them. I'm very curious.

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                                                      DGresh Feb 28, 2013 07:54 AM

                                                      That's kind of funny. I got her "Foolproof" for Christmas (love it) and she has a whole section about "Can I freeze this?" (apparently a common question to her) and she more or less says that most things don't freeze very well, and it's much better to make things fresh. I'm paraphrasing of course.

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                                                        alliegator Feb 28, 2013 08:10 AM

                                                        I've seen that she tends to say things won't freeze well, and that is my main objection here. She just really pushes the "good" ingredients and using everything fresh in her show. So a frozen bag meal seems to go back on all she stands for.

                                                        1. re: DGresh
                                                          ttoommyy Feb 28, 2013 09:16 AM

                                                          Freezing food at home and freezing food commercially are two very different processes. The former can result in freezer burn while the latter involves a process that freezes and packages foods in such a way to prevent this.

                                                          1. re: ttoommyy
                                                            EarlyBird Feb 28, 2013 09:51 AM

                                                            Ina lives in a very rarified world, which she worked very hard to get into. That means plenty of time to spend in her professionally equipped kitchen in the Hamptons working with nothing but the very best ingredients, hosting lunches with celebrities throughout the week, planning her next trip to Paris, and thinking of nice menus for Jeffrey when he comes home from Manhattan on the weekends. So much of her television show and "brand" is to let regular people enter into this fantasy lifestyle.

                                                            But the rest of us do not live that way and can use frozen foods to pop in the microwave. Surely she's figured out what does and does not freeze well. I am going to bet that her frozen meals are quite good. If they're well priced at Wal-Mart, even better.

                                                          2. re: DGresh
                                                            ttoommyy Feb 28, 2013 09:18 AM

                                                            I agree. I have no children and never will. Doesn't mean I don't want to make a lot of money to pass along to my nieces or give to my church and favorite charities after I die. I can't believe people still have this kind of mentality in 2013.

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                                                              alliegator Feb 28, 2013 09:35 AM

                                                              Agreed on this point. I'm child free, but I do have a nephew, and he'll likely have children one day. And there are always charities to help those who need it. It's not like anyone aspires to someday line their caskets with cash.

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                                                                DGresh Feb 28, 2013 09:45 AM

                                                                Are you speaking to me? I wasn't dissing anyone for making money, children or not.

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                                                                  alliegator Feb 28, 2013 09:53 AM

                                                                  Ooh, I didn't intend my comment to go back to you. I didn't check out all the RE: stuff carefully enough.

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                                                                  lastZZ Feb 28, 2013 12:00 PM

                                                                  Nothing wrong with passing some on to nephews and nieces. I got along great with one childless aunt. Me+sister were in her will. Another aunt who had two children gave me+sister a nice good will amount

                                                                  "church and favorite charities after I die."

                                                                  Great ideas too. I am disappointed when institutionS with humongous endowments (like Harvard) get large donations. If you pile up some money in life you should be able to leave it to who and what you want with minimum taxation. I don't like Government taking money you earned and were taxed on once...taxing it again (via estate taxes) to fund their harebrained schemes

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                                                                rochfood Feb 27, 2013 03:13 PM

                                                                Does Jeffrey like it ? Maybe that is all that matters.

                                                                Better than leaving him frozen hot dogs to thaw in the sink .

                                                                Ina's mug from the package can stare at him as he eats.

                                                                1. junescook Feb 27, 2013 02:39 PM

                                                                  Well I'll try anything once, but 22 oz is not exactly saying dinner for two to me:

                                                                  http://eater.com/archives/2013/02/21/...

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                                                                    SherBel Feb 27, 2013 11:03 AM

                                                                    Why shouldn't those who shop at Walmart have access to what will likely be quality products? Should those who can't afford to shop in pricier stores be forced to buy only what we deem to be acceptable? And what is the criteria? And what, precisely, gives us the right to make those decisions?

                                                                    None of this fuss makes sense to me, (except that HuffPo continues to deteriorate.)

                                                                    (And I'm neutral on the subject of Ina Garten, except that the few of her shows that I've seen have been well-produced, and that the food shown has looked excellent.)

                                                                    1. EarlyBird Feb 27, 2013 09:28 AM

                                                                      I love Ina Garten and like her style and way of food.

                                                                      She does this to make money. More power to her. And I don't understand why selling her food at Wal-Mart is a bad thing. Perhaps she should only sell her meals at Upper East Side boutique food stores specializing in locally sourced, organic, sustainably grown, co-op raised, etc., and charge 5 times as much for the same product? I bet they'd fly off the shelves.

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                                                                        Snorkelvik Mar 8, 2013 11:38 AM

                                                                        that sounds rather nice to me, would at least be a step closer to having a high quality product that befits her (or shall I say, my perception of her)

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                                                                          ttoommyy Mar 8, 2013 01:21 PM

                                                                          "that sounds rather nice to me, would at least be a step closer to having a high quality product that befits her (or shall I say, my perception of her)"

                                                                          Really? You'd rather pay "5 times as much for the same product" at a "boutique food store?" Wow.

                                                                          Pssst...I have a bridge to sell you.

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                                                                            Snorkelvik Mar 8, 2013 06:47 PM

                                                                            LOL, you read much closer than me. I didn't notice "for the same product". I was thinking the poster meant a product that was "locally sourced, organic, sustainably grown, co-op raised, etc.,"

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                                                                              Leepa Mar 8, 2013 06:58 PM

                                                                              From what I read, they're selling for $9 each. Not exactly Banquet or Michelina prices...

                                                                              Perhaps they have some of the qualities that you mention. I won't assume they don't until I see them.

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                                                                                ttoommyy Mar 9, 2013 05:23 AM

                                                                                How do you know it isn't?

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                                                                                  EarlyBird Mar 11, 2013 08:46 AM

                                                                                  I was, actually, referring to the same product, but sold at a premium at a high falutin' store.

                                                                          2. Monica Feb 27, 2013 08:49 AM

                                                                            Ina doesn't have kids to inherit her money so I don't really understand why she is doing it.
                                                                            As a person who praises about French people and their markets that sells fresh produces and as a person who sells a 'class' of her own, I don't know why she feels it's necessary to sell frozen food. I no longer heart her so much.

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                                                                            1. re: Monica
                                                                              ttoommyy Feb 27, 2013 09:22 AM

                                                                              "Ina doesn't have kids to inherit her money so I don't really understand why she is doing it."

                                                                              But maybe she has other dependents we don't know about? Or huge bills from something unknown to us? Or donates tons of money to charity? Or she just wants more money.

                                                                              As people who only know one tiny facet of her life from TV shows and cookbooks, how can we possibly even begin to judge her motives. We know NOTHING about the woman really.

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                                                                                Monica Feb 27, 2013 09:30 AM

                                                                                Yes, true, i do not know everything about her life but I know for sure, she is not desperate enough to start selling frozen food in Walmart.

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                                                                                nofunlatte Feb 27, 2013 05:33 PM

                                                                                So, only people with children are allowed to make lots of money? The child free aren't permitted to make gogabucks to leave to friends or charities?

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                                                                                  wincountrygirl Feb 28, 2013 04:14 AM

                                                                                  As someone with no kids - thanks!

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                                                                                    ellaf Mar 1, 2013 02:33 PM

                                                                                    Thank you - the statement that only parents should need to make a lot of money rocked my world a little.

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                                                                                    lastZZ Feb 28, 2013 12:57 AM

                                                                                    Ina has a large organization behind her staffed with people who do need the money. So they are going to propel any WalMart frozen dinner idea. That she has no children gives her more time to fill. So she gets it fill it with more money making enterprises. And gets prestige and bragging rights within her circle of mega-chefs. If very successful maybe the Martha Stewart org will buy her out the way they did a lot of Emeril...which translates into tens of millions in the bank ...cha-ching

                                                                                    Martha buying Emeril for 50 million >> http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23235422/si...

                                                                                    Though I do agree with your original point. The point of piling up big money you cannot possible spend is for your children and their children and in this lousy economy they just might need some of it before you expire. What I really like are businesses that are family dynasties. I often see this on DD&D in the Greek-American diners and I notice how Guy Fieri likes to probe into this. More power to 'em!!

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                                                                                      Snorkelvik Mar 8, 2013 11:37 AM

                                                                                      oh no, can you imagine how Martha Stewart would shill the Barefoot Contessa name?

                                                                                      Pardon me, ttommmy, but i cannot fathom Ina selling a majority of her name/brand to Martha.

                                                                                      Who knows, maybe I'll be eating my words in a year or so? No, Ina, No!

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                                                                                        ttoommyy Mar 8, 2013 11:39 AM

                                                                                        "Pardon me, ttommmy, but i cannot fathom Ina selling a majority of her name/brand to Martha."

                                                                                        I don't believe I mentioned this.

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                                                                                          Snorkelvik Mar 8, 2013 06:44 PM

                                                                                          You didn't. I was referring to:

                                                                                          "I think too many people project their attitudes and ideals onto celebrities and then are disappointed to find out they are human."

                                                                                          I'd like to think Ina has too much sense and integrity to sell out her good name - but that's just me projecting.

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                                                                                            ttoommyy Mar 9, 2013 05:23 AM

                                                                                            Yes, it is.

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                                                                                        mcf Mar 9, 2013 09:52 AM

                                                                                        "The point of piling up big money you cannot possible spend is for your children and their children and in this lousy economy they just might need some of it before you expire."

                                                                                        Or to leave behind as a charitable foundation funding alma maters and causes of one's choosing.

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                                                                                          nofunlatte Mar 9, 2013 03:30 PM

                                                                                          Exactly, mcf. Many worthy recipients for one's legacy--schools, religious organizations, social welfare nonprofits, soup kitchens or food banks, medical research institutions, etc. If one thinks that the "point of piling up big money you cannot possible spend is for your children and their children and in this lousy economy they just might need some of it before you expire", perhaps that kind of person shouldn't have children if he/she can't leave them gigabucks.

                                                                                      3. re: Monica
                                                                                        ipsedixit Feb 28, 2013 08:03 AM

                                                                                        Ina doesn't have kids to inherit her money so I don't really understand why she is doing it.
                                                                                        ________________

                                                                                        So?

                                                                                        Is there a limit on how much money a person can make or have in a lifetime?

                                                                                        If there is, can you point me to it? I think a guy I know by the name of Warren Buffet may be interested in this ...

                                                                                        1. re: Monica
                                                                                          chowser Mar 1, 2013 02:59 PM

                                                                                          As a parent, I don't understand the comment that only those with kids should want to make money. As Andrew Carnegie put it, better leave your children a curse than a dollar. Maybe Ina just wants to give Walmart shoppers who are buying frozen dinners a better option. Think of the number of people this will employ. I'm not getting the hate. Her being child-free is irrelevant.

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                                                                                            ttoommyy Mar 2, 2013 04:25 AM

                                                                                            Well said.
                                                                                            It's amazing how some people automatically think the worst of Ina and make the decision immediately to no longer support her or even like her, instead of thinking along the lines you suggest chowser. Why can't we just assume she is doing something positive instead of negative? I would hate to have some of these people as friends and be judged without knowing the facts every time I did something they did not agree with or seemed out of character.

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                                                                                              wincountrygirl Mar 2, 2013 04:46 AM

                                                                                              Thank you, Chowser

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                                                                                                latindancer Mar 2, 2013 07:54 AM

                                                                                                I completely agree.

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                                                                                                Leepa Mar 2, 2013 05:08 AM

                                                                                                You're right. Are people with children only allowed to try to get ahead? Should she have, when younger, decided not to go into the food business because she didn't have kids? Have you thought that she might be contributing to the world in other ways than procreating?

                                                                                              3. ipsedixit Feb 27, 2013 08:19 AM

                                                                                                Wait, what's wrong with this?

                                                                                                Has anyone actually tried these frozen dinners? Are they any good?

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                                                                                                1. re: ipsedixit
                                                                                                  pamf Feb 27, 2013 08:31 AM

                                                                                                  Don't think they have actually hit the stores yet.

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                                                                                                    ipsedixit Feb 27, 2013 08:37 AM

                                                                                                    So, then, what are people complaining about?

                                                                                                    What if they turn out to be the most fabulous frozen dinners ever? The Vosages of frozen dinners, if you will.

                                                                                                    Will we still excoriate her?

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                                                                                                      juliejulez Feb 27, 2013 11:40 AM

                                                                                                      I think we dislike it because on her show she always talks about using the best ingredients and cooking from scratch etc. This just sort of goes against that.

                                                                                                      Now that I've had a chance to think about it though, I might try one just to see how it is, and hopefully it'll be better than the other skillet meals already available. Might be a good thing to keep in the freezer if there's a night where I just REALLY don't want to cook, like if I was sick or something. Or, that's something my SO could make for himself if I wasn't home instead of getting himself some fast food. Too bad they won't be sold at Kroger stores, which is where I shop.

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                                                                                                        ttoommyy Feb 27, 2013 12:09 PM

                                                                                                        "I think we dislike it because on her show she always talks about using the best ingredients and cooking from scratch etc. This just sort of goes against that."

                                                                                                        And that makes sense. But I doubt Ina cooks for herself (or has someone cook for her) every night of the week, every week of the year. I'm sure she expects people to have take out, a frozen dinner or leftovers. When she espouses "using the best ingredients and cooking from scratch etc." she surely does not mean every single day of the year. Even Jacques Pepin uses refrigerated cookie dough from the supermarket (something I detest) in one of his recipes! lol I would never write him off for doing so though.

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                                                                                                          ipsedixit Feb 27, 2013 07:15 PM

                                                                                                          Ina is a caterer by trade.

                                                                                                          Selling pre-packaged frozen dinners is really just a natural extension of catering.

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                                                                                                            ttoommyy Feb 28, 2013 03:44 AM

                                                                                                            Good point.

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                                                                                                            mcf Mar 9, 2013 09:51 AM

                                                                                                            "I think we dislike it because on her show she always talks about using the best ingredients and cooking from scratch etc. This just sort of goes against that."

                                                                                                            Not exactly. She talks pretty equally about using the best ingredients where it really matters, and subbing the pedestrian (frozen pearl onions for beef bourguignon, frex) where it makes life easier.

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                                                                                                            wincountrygirl Feb 28, 2013 04:13 AM

                                                                                                            Thank you, ipsedixit! Why all the Ina trashing here? Let's see if they're good. If they are, we can sure use them. She used to have a line of dessert mixes - I didn't hear complaints about that. Isn't it what this country is about? Why not be as successful as you can?

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                                                                                                          HillJ Apr 11, 2013 05:54 AM

                                                                                                          Supertaster over at CHOW just reviewed these frozen meals. I haven't tried them but I was very surprised to see how fresh they appear. The shrimp dish doesn't come with precooked shrimp, you saute them fresh out of the dinner bag. The broccoli looked super fresh. The pasta looked fresh too. The sauce was in its own bag to warm up. As frozen dinners go, these looked "thought out."

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                                                                                                            ChristinaMason Apr 26, 2013 11:54 AM

                                                                                                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s6_bV...

                                                                                                        3. pamf Feb 27, 2013 08:15 AM

                                                                                                          This line is being produced by Contessa Foods, a company that distributes frozen seafood and already offers the same type of bagged, frozen pasta dinners under their own name.

                                                                                                          Apparently, there was a lawsuit several years ago about the use of the Contessa name. I guess this is some kind of settlement?

                                                                                                          http://www.finedininglovers.com/blog/...

                                                                                                          1. chicgail Feb 26, 2013 07:22 PM

                                                                                                            <<Why do people do these things?>>

                                                                                                            Why do you think they do them? Because someone is paying her a lot of money to use her name.

                                                                                                            1. monavano Feb 26, 2013 03:30 PM

                                                                                                              Ina's got at least 2 new barn kitchens to build that aren't going to pay for themselves!

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                                                                                                                dolly52 Feb 26, 2013 03:23 PM

                                                                                                                Ina is a business, and it seems like a successful one.

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                                                                                                                  ttoommyy Feb 26, 2013 04:40 PM

                                                                                                                  Exactly my point. I think too many people project their attitudes and ideals onto celebrities and then are disappointed to find out they are human.

                                                                                                                2. ttoommyy Feb 26, 2013 12:17 PM

                                                                                                                  "Why do people do these things."

                                                                                                                  Money. If you were famous for something and made tons of money from it and people came to you all the time with schemes to make even more money, would you say no? Seriously. Would you? I really doubt it.

                                                                                                                  And if you would say no, then you are a rare person and there should be more of us like you. I know I would jump at the chance to make as much money as I could if I were in her place. The fame does not last forever and it can be very fleeting for some. You do realize she is first and foremost in this for the money, right? If she were just in it for the pure love of cooking, none of us would have ever heard of her. It's all business.

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                                                                                                                    Bacardi1 Feb 26, 2013 12:19 PM

                                                                                                                    Maybe you would, but under the same circumstances as Ina Garten? Where I already had oodles of money - even prior to my cooking media empire - AND felt I had at least a minimal reputation to protect as a class act?

                                                                                                                    I definitely WOULD NOT do it.

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                                                                                                                      ttoommyy Feb 26, 2013 12:32 PM

                                                                                                                      "Maybe you would, but under the same circumstances as Ina Garten? Where I already had oodles of money - even prior to my cooking media empire..."

                                                                                                                      Yes I would and under the exact same circumstances. How do you think the rich stay rich? They don't just stop trying to make even more money when they think they have enough. If you think so, you are a bit naive.

                                                                                                                      "...AND felt I had at least a minimal reputation to protect as a class act?"

                                                                                                                      But that is your assumption. She may not think she has to protect her reputation as we, her audience, projects on her. She may very well just be a smart business person who knows when and how to make a quick buck; the cooking part may well be just the platform she uses to make money at this point in her life. I still maintain that those in business who do well care much more about the bottom line than anything else.

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                                                                                                                        sandiasingh Feb 26, 2013 01:18 PM

                                                                                                                        Yes, agree with all that it's about money and that's the disappointing part. How much is enough? Really. WalMart?

                                                                                                                        And for the record, I wouldn't do it. In fact, I gave up a prominent career on the East Coast in the music industry, moved to the mountains of New Mexico and am starting a small farm. But that's just me :-)

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                                                                                                                        Rick Feb 28, 2013 09:31 AM

                                                                                                                        You have to realize, she doesn't socialize with people like you and me. I highly doubt her friends will snub her because she's making even more money now. In her circles making more money is the thing to do, doesn't matter that you made it selling stuff via Walmart. Do you think the Walton's friends think they're not a class act because they own Walmart?

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                                                                                                                          latindancer Mar 2, 2013 07:52 AM

                                                                                                                          <she doesn't socialize with people like you and me.>

                                                                                                                          A highly speculative and stereotypical statement and, in many cases, just wrong.

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                                                                                                                            ttoommyy Mar 2, 2013 08:57 AM

                                                                                                                            Agreed.

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                                                                                                                            ChefJune Mar 12, 2013 11:17 AM

                                                                                                                            <You have to realize, she doesn't socialize with people like you and me. >

                                                                                                                            And you know that for certain HOW?

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                                                                                                                              DaisyM Mar 12, 2013 01:54 PM

                                                                                                                              My mother used to go to the same beauty salon in NYC as Martha Stewart. They'd exchange greetings and a little small talk.

                                                                                                                              During the holidays, Martha walked in the salon while the colorist was working on my mother. She invited the colorist to her holiday party at her home. And she invited my mother, too. My mother, made up some lame excuse because she felt that Martha was just being polite and was inviting her just because she was sitting there. My response, "Are you CRAZY...you turned down an invitation to Martha Stewart's house???"

                                                                                                                              Several years later, a friend of mine was on Martha's show. I was in the green room and someone introduced me to Martha. She did NOT invite me to her house! BTW, she is really gorgeous.

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                                                                                                                          jarona Mar 1, 2013 11:25 AM

                                                                                                                          I see your point--but for me--well, I'm deeply shallow and if I were just an iota well-known for my cooking and had a reputation for using local, sustainable, seasonable foods; the BEST vanilla, etc. I would be really concerned about my reputation--again, that is just me, because I'm shallow and oh--I do care so much of what others think of me because I"m also incredibly insecure--so yeah, I'd pass:)

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                                                                                                                            gingershelley Mar 11, 2013 04:58 PM

                                                                                                                            That's why I like Tony Bordain - no shilling for knives, a line of pots & pans, etc. He even called out the ol' Travel channel for a very obvious Cadillac placement in one of his last No Reservations episodes that he had not approved of.

                                                                                                                            Now THAT is the way to roll.....

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                                                                                                                              chowser Mar 12, 2013 04:37 AM

                                                                                                                              I wonder how he explains doing The Taste.

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                                                                                                                                monavano Mar 12, 2013 06:15 AM

                                                                                                                                I couldn't watch The Taste after the 2 hour premier but that show is the ultimate sell out. I'd rather sell dog food a la RR.
                                                                                                                                Don't preach from your ivory tower and then go on a fakey-fake "reality" tv show.

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                                                                                                                                ttoommyy Mar 12, 2013 10:08 AM

                                                                                                                                Inagree. The Taste is no better than selling pots and pans, frozen dinners, etc. It's still trading on ones name.

                                                                                                                            2. alliegator Feb 26, 2013 11:32 AM

                                                                                                                              Wow, didn't see that one coming. I vote FAIL.

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                                                                                                                                juliejulez Feb 26, 2013 12:05 PM

                                                                                                                                Ditto, and if she's going to sell them, at least sell them somewhere decent... not WalMart.

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                                                                                                                                  Snorkelvik Mar 8, 2013 11:33 AM

                                                                                                                                  here, here. From the Hamptons' exclusive little eatery to Walmart ?

                                                                                                                                  Can anyone say brand erosion?

                                                                                                                              2. Bacardi1 Feb 26, 2013 09:54 AM

                                                                                                                                UGH! But why am I not surprised?

                                                                                                                                Never cared for the woman; found her & still find her pretentious & fake. And now apparently - greedy.

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