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Above and Beyond in Hong Kong

dlgc809 Feb 24, 2013 11:48 AM

Has anyone eaten at Above and Beyond. We would appreciate some comments on the food as we are thinking of dining there when we are in HK this April.Thank you

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  1. Charles Yu RE: dlgc809 Feb 24, 2013 08:20 PM

    This year, our 'regular' group of Chowhounders will be holding our annual HKG chowmeet at Above & Beyond around the second week of March. If you can wait that long, I should have something to report back?!!

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      dlgc809 RE: dlgc809 Feb 25, 2013 05:27 AM

      Thanks Charles, enjoy your dinner there.

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        domenexx RE: dlgc809 May 19, 2013 01:25 PM

        Hello Digs,

        Sorry for the late reply but I went to Above and Beyond late Feb and had a very good experience. I called earlier and told then if it was possible to do a tasting menu only for one and they say: not a problem. Reminds me of Man Wah in terms of style and atmosphere. I will definitely return to follow it's evolution.



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          Charles Yu RE: domenexx May 19, 2013 04:14 PM

          I can see you are a true foodie Domenexx!
          Why! Because you were able to distinguish the 'small' detail!!

          "Reminds me of Man Wah in terms of style and atmosphere."!!!

          FYI, Chef Joseph Tse, current executive chef of Above & Beyond, was actually head chef of Mandarin's Man Wah before his crossing the habour to take up his new post!! - hence the similarity with certain things!! Great observation!!

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            domenexx RE: Charles Yu Jun 18, 2013 03:39 AM

            Hello Charles,

            I hope you are doing great ! I'm preparing for a 6 day visit to HK arriving on the 28th of June. It looks like I will have more time and flexibility in the evenings during this business trip (unlike the others). I will like to consult with you on a couple of options that I have never visited such as One Harbour Road, Tim Leung Heen, Ah Yat, Tien Leung Lau and the canteen at the Aberdeen Fish Market.

            I will be staying at the new Indigo Hotel in Wanchai this time. We planned already a lunch with local colleagues at Hong Kong Cuisine, my mandatory visit to Yan Toh Heen and Lung King Heen for lunch. The rest is wide open. Also, let me know an informal place for Char Sie. Never been to Joy Hing and can be a candidate. Feel free to add any other reco's to the list.

            Best Regards,


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              Charles Yu RE: domenexx Jun 18, 2013 08:22 AM

              Hi V!

              First and foremost, gather a group of friends and head over to the Canteen restaurant at the Aberdeen fish market before they close door permanently after August! The seafood could easily be the high light of your entire trip!!

              Are you planning for lunch or dinner at the above captioned list?. Since both your 'mandatory' lunch choices of YTH and LKH are Cantonese 'Dim Sum' options. I would definitely add Tien Heung Lau into your itinerary for something different!. Though the food is good, however this place is a bit run down and expensive. A good, more upscale and refined place for consideration IMO is Liu Yuan Pavillion. Very enjoyable Shanghainese cuisine.

              A very impressive new eatery that I discovered during my past trip to HK in March is 'Hong Kong Cuisine'

              Rating: 4.4 - 13 reviews - Price range: $151-$300
              Overview; Review (13) · Photo (96) · Restaurant Menu (0). Hong Kong Cuisine. Map. 1/F, 2-4Tsoi Tak Street, Happy Valley 跑馬地載德街2-4號1樓. 2893 3788.

              A little out of the way, hence taxi is needed but food was most interesting and good!

              For Char Siu BBQ Pork, Joi Hing & Keung Kee ( both in Wan Chai ) or Yat Lok in Central are as good a place as any. All of them also offer Crispy Roast pork, roasted goose or duck and may be suckling piglet as well!

              If you are on business expenses, then may be add on a Tin Lung Heen or Ah Yat to your list. If not for food at least for the great views!! ( assuming you book ahead and secure a window table ).

              There are sooooo many new and old places worth trying or going back to, its going to be tough trying to nail down a few for a 6 days stay. I spend 4 weeks in HK this March and I did not find the time to cover every 'would like to try' establishments on my 'must eat' list!! Thing is, some of the eateries are so good they beg for second or third visits!!

              Lastly, if you are into Won Ton noodles or Congees ..etc. Bamboo Room in Causeway Bay is a must try!! Nothing like that in North America or Europe!!!

              Hope my two cents would help!

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                domenexx RE: Charles Yu Jun 27, 2013 01:06 PM

                Hello Charles,

                I'm in Shanghai going to HK in a few hours. I will do for LKH for dim sum and YTH for dinner. HK Cuisine will be a group lunch. I'm seriously considering going to TLH for dinner and to give it a try. No more planning for my side at this stage except trying to do lunch at the Aberdeen Canteen tomorrow Saturday. The rest will be feel with ad hoc or last minute selection. Planning to visit at least a high end western food rest such as amber, l'atelier, etc. any suggestions. Also, there a whole bunch of new eclectic places that I will consider. For this trip I will play it by ear and see how it goes.

                While in Shanghai went to Xibo (xinjiang cuisine) and enjoyed very much. It is very close from the HIlton.

                In Amsterdam nothing too exciting to report. Had dinner in District V (Italian). A casual and very popular place for lunch or a light dinner.

                Shoot any last minutes ideas for HK? Always welcomed !



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                  Charles Yu RE: domenexx Jun 27, 2013 02:17 PM

                  Personally, for high end Western, I love Caprice and Amber for more 'modernistic' approach. L'Atelier, IMHO, is over-rated! I cannot understand how they manage to get a 3rd star?! Compare to Tokyo's L'Atelier, HK is actually a little rough with an edge!!
                  For more traditional but delicious and simple 'let the ingredient shine' approach, Petrus is also worth considering!
                  BTW, I'm not a fan of the 3 star Italian Otto e Mezzo. Good food but 'total package' more like a 1 star.

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                    PhilD RE: domenexx Jun 27, 2013 04:01 PM

                    Long weekend in HK and I can say from experiennce Caprice, Amber etc are pretty full.

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                      Charles Yu RE: PhilD Jun 27, 2013 05:09 PM

                      Great point!! May be dropping in just before 22.30 pm last order?? or wait outside at 6.30pm before they open?!

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                      Gummy RE: domenexx Jun 28, 2013 02:49 AM

                      For high end western, Spoon at the Intercon is another possible option.

                      For YTH, for some reason I find lunch better than dinner there in general, though some of their dinner signature dishes are among my favorites.

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                        Charles Yu RE: Gummy Jun 28, 2013 07:25 AM

                        Ref: Spoon
                        Who's the executive chef now?
                        Compare to other Michelin caliber establishments, I found Spoon's food very temperamental and inconsistent due to their constant changing of chefs and dining format. Somehow, they love to revamp their weekend luncheon format!!

                        Very often overlooked by foodies, however, I thoroughly enjoyed the couple of times I dined at Gaddi's across the road inside the Peninsula. Refined and more classic food. Jackets required for gentleman though!! In a way reminds me of Daniel in NYC.

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                          PhilD RE: Charles Yu Jun 28, 2013 04:22 PM

                          I like the Spoon brunch on Sunday but found dinner there a big miss with a very erratic meal.

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                            Gummy RE: PhilD Jul 2, 2013 12:34 AM

                            Maybe we were there on a good day, but we quite liked dinner at Spoon, though the last time we were there was almost 6 moths ago now. We found the a la carte better than the tasting menu though. :)

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              domenexx RE: dlgc809 May 20, 2013 03:49 AM

              Thanks Charles!!

              Has Man Wah maintain it's quality or has it gone down since the departure of the Chef? Did you finish going to Hong Kong Cuisine? Feedback?



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                Charles Yu RE: domenexx May 20, 2013 05:52 AM

                I recall fellow chowhounder Peech payed it a visit a while back and was still quite impressed?! May be he can confirm?

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                  Uncle Yabai RE: Charles Yu May 21, 2013 12:50 AM

                  I'm not Peech (cue: I know Peech. Peech is a friend of mine. And you, sir, are no Peech). But Man Wah is as good as ever, maybe even better.

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                    Charles Yu RE: Uncle Yabai May 21, 2013 09:00 PM

                    Hay Uncle! Of course I am no Peech! My wine cellar not even 1/100th of his! Ha!!
                    BTW, Peech is a chowfriend of mine too! Attended my chowmeets in Hong Kong for the past 6 years!! You should remember?! You attended the last 3 or 4!!

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                      Uncle Yabai RE: Charles Yu May 21, 2013 10:01 PM

                      That's why I said "Peech is a friend of mine". Aberdeen fish market canteen, here I come!

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                      Peech RE: Uncle Yabai Jun 1, 2013 10:05 AM

                      guess i'd better jump in since my moniker's been bandied about…

                      Actually I never really cared for Man Wah… I have never been there of my own volition… and always there because someone else wanted to go there.

                      it's not bad, but at the same time it doesn't do anything for me. Glad you guys like it better

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                  ksyoung RE: dlgc809 Jul 10, 2013 12:48 PM

                  Did you end up going to Above and Beyond? I'm curious about it as I will be in Hong Kong for just one night later this year and we are thinking about staying at Hotel Icon. It's hard to decide where our one HK dinner should be, but Above and Beyond would surely be convenient. I've read lots of good reviews, but not sure how it compares to other great restaurants in HK. One caveat: this is a layover after a volunteer vacation and we will not have nice clothes with us so we need some place we can be casual. I'm also really curious about Bo Innovation.

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