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Tsujita Artisan - Question about optimal serving temperature

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revets2 Feb 24, 2013 11:00 AM

We're not, by any means, ramen experts. We love the ramen & tsukemen at Tsujita LA, but are scratching our heads at the lukewarm, almost room temperature at which it's served. We've not experienced this in even legendary ramen shops in Japan.

Santouka indicates they never want to boil their broth, but it's served warmer. Yamadaya indicates they serve at 203F.

Can someone school us? Where's rameniac?

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    aizan RE: revets2 Feb 24, 2013 12:44 PM

    it should be hot, so i'd get the attention of the server. lukewarm tsukemen is not unusual, but they can warm that up if you want.

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      revets2 RE: aizan Feb 25, 2013 12:40 AM

      I've been three times now and every time the ramen has not been anywhere near 185F. Next time I'll take my thermometer and ask if the soup can be served hotter. Thanks.

    2. blimpbinge RE: revets2 Feb 25, 2013 08:57 AM

      I've never had an issue with warm or lukewarm broth for the ramen. It's usually so hot that I need to wait for it to cool down or cool the noodles through unnecessary slurping before I start eating.

      For the tsukemen however, I feel that due to the cold noodles + the unusually high fat content of the broth (seems much higher than places I've tried elsewhere, and in japan), the broth cools much faster than it should. So the meal gets really heavy after the first few dips.

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        Porthos RE: blimpbinge Feb 25, 2013 10:10 AM

        FWIW, high fat content and oil should allow for more heat retention.

        The tsukemen at Yamadaya OC is mildly hot/very very warm. Not as hot as the regular ramen in broth. Definitely not 203F. I remember Tsujita being about the same temp.

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          blimpbinge RE: Porthos Feb 25, 2013 10:40 AM

          hm that is true. I remember my bowls of ramen in japan having a pretty thick layer of oil just for that purpose in the winter. I guess what I mean is that cold noodles + a small portion of thick oily broth (and the constant dipping) would have it cool faster than if it was a larger portion (non-tsukemen).

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        revets2 RE: revets2 Feb 25, 2013 10:30 AM

        Thanks, everyone. Very helpful. I will definitely say something next time

        Our bowl is never steaming there. As a matter of fact, when we waited for our table (for almost an hour for inside seating on Saturday evening), it was quite cold outside and you couldn't see steam coming off the top to those they were serving outside.

        The broth and hard noodles are so good. And that egg...it's perfect! It would be a great experience if it was warming. Even better, it was nice to have sake with the noodles. The brightness gave a nice contrast to the fatty components.

        The dipping sauce for the tsukemen was only lukewarm as well, not like Tetsu or Warito in Tokyo. As a matter of fact, I love the hot rock Warito puts your dipping sauce to keep it warm on cold days.

         
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          Johnny L RE: revets2 Feb 25, 2013 10:51 AM

          Having eaten their tsukemen at least 4 times I've never had it piping hot which I wish it was. Still hasnt deterred me from saying its the best tsukemen in town easily.

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            revets2 RE: Johnny L Feb 25, 2013 10:59 AM

            Totally agree. Hope I've not been negative on TSUJITA. It's still my fave in LA. I was just wondering if it was stylistic for TSUJITA. And because it's my fave, it would be that much better if it's hot if that's the way they intend it.

            Have you had the ramen there and if you did, was it hot?

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              Johnny L RE: revets2 Feb 25, 2013 03:44 PM

              I stupidly got the ramen in the middle of summer. Despite that it was hot, I'd say the same temperature as the tsukemen broth but since you aren't dipping room temperature noodles the broth doesn't turn lukewarm after a few minutes.

              I'd avoid the ramen in general just because the tsukemen is so good and that I feel their ramen is pretty tied with the best in town.

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                Porthos RE: Johnny L Feb 25, 2013 03:49 PM

                I remember the ramen being hot compared to the very warm tsukemen. Had them side by side.

                Agree with you that I don't think their ramen is significantly better than the competition. Very rich pork broth but the noodles were surprisingly not as chewy as I would have liked.

                But their tsukemen and their egg clearly are though.

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                TonyC RE: revets2 Feb 25, 2013 05:04 PM

                If you want your tsukemen piping hot and staying that way, go to Fujin (West Covina), where they serve it in a dolsot.

                The ramen at Tsjuita is served hot, but not burning hot.

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