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Mira 2009 Cabernet Sauvignon -- true experiment, or publicity stunt?

zin1953 Feb 23, 2013 05:05 AM



  1. ChefJune Feb 26, 2013 08:52 AM

    IF this were anything other than a publicity stunt, the wine would have to be sumberged for quite a bit longer than 3 months in order to find out if it did anything. The wine that was found in the sunken ships had been down there for more than 100 years!

    Personally, I think it's a crock of cr&p...

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    1. re: ChefJune
      Bill Hunt Feb 26, 2013 06:08 PM

      Well, 100 years now, would not lead to RIO on the "stunt."

      I am with you - PR only.


    2. Gussie Finknottle Feb 26, 2013 04:50 AM

      Since when does '3 months' mean ageing?

      Publicity pure and simple.

      And succesful.

      1. Bill Hunt Feb 25, 2013 07:13 PM

        Now, an ocean voyage in the heat, in the hold of a rocking boat DID seem to enhance Madeira heading to the New World in the 1970's, but this sounds like PR to me.


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        1. re: Bill Hunt
          zin1953 Feb 26, 2013 07:23 AM

          Bill? Was that the 1970s, or the 1790s??? ;^)

          1. re: zin1953
            Bill Hunt Feb 26, 2013 06:05 PM

            Sorry. the 1790's. Maybe it was because I declared Wine-Thirty early, or perhaps my dyslexia acting up again. Good catch for my poor typing. Thank you for asking, and for the clarification. DUH!

            Thank you,


          2. re: Bill Hunt
            ChefJune Feb 26, 2013 08:53 AM

            Bill: Madeira is a fortified wine. Not sure the unfortified variety benefits from the ships rocking, etc.

            1. re: ChefJune
              Bill Hunt Feb 26, 2013 06:07 PM

              Oh I agree completely. Same for the "heat" of the voyage. Most Madeiras are stored in attics, before being disgorged.

              In some countries, in the 1790's (got it right for a change), there were cradles to "rock" Madeira, prior to disgorging it.

              My doubt is that this wine will benefit from being submerged in sea water.


          3. maria lorraine Feb 23, 2013 08:31 AM

            My bulls@#t meter went off.

            "The quality of the wine found in these and many other 'discoveries' suggest the wine was actually enhanced by the underwater elements."

            I don't buy it. There's lots of organoleptic deterioration with even a small amount of movement. Loss of fruit, mainly.

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            1. re: maria lorraine
              zin1953 Feb 23, 2013 03:54 PM

              Ya think?!?!?! ;^)

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