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Beshathan or Goldell?

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stuffed Feb 22, 2013 02:10 PM

Are Besha Rodell and Jonathan Gold dining partners? Or do their reviews converge/coincide/parallel by some other means? Or has the local pool of reviewable restaurants shrunk to a very small number without my noticing (entirely possible)? Or is Besha dogging Jonathan?

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  1. ipsedixit RE: stuffed Feb 22, 2013 02:44 PM

    Rodell is just Gold in drag.

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      linus RE: ipsedixit Feb 22, 2013 04:37 PM

      yeah, if gold wrote in urdu and had his stuff translated by a drunk baboon using a typewriter with 13 and half keys missing.

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        ipsedixit RE: linus Feb 22, 2013 07:13 PM

        I think Gold's writing is overrated, and many times his prose is a poor match for restaurant reviews.

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          stuffed RE: ipsedixit Feb 22, 2013 08:04 PM

          The first three paragraphs (to my eyes,about one-quarter of the text) of his review for Hart and Hunter are an overwrought recitation of his biscuit making and eating expertise. Maybe he is trying to establish his credentials compared to the newbie reviewer in his old job who scooped him again.

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            linus RE: stuffed Feb 23, 2013 05:05 AM

            yes, certainly the only writer awarded a pulitzer prize for food writing is desperate to "establish his credentials."

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              stuffed RE: linus Feb 23, 2013 11:18 AM

              He is establishing his biscuit bonafides, not his credentials as a writer...

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            linus RE: ipsedixit Feb 23, 2013 05:06 AM

            considering what's out there restaurant review wise, in los angeles and other places, especially the world wide interwebs, i think gold's writing is, if anything, underrated.

            quality prose is a match for any kind of writing, be it restaurant reviewing or laundry list making.

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              Eljeffy RE: linus Feb 23, 2013 10:21 AM

              +1 on J Gold prose. His counterintelligence on Sqirl was a minor masterpiece.

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                stuffed RE: Eljeffy Feb 23, 2013 11:23 AM

                My original post is about the irony of Gold and the LAT following behind Rodell and the LAW in reviewing the same restaurants. It might seem to some of us that he's now the establishment trying to keep up with the upstart from the "alternative" weekly.

                I don't worship at the altar of the Pulitzer or other awards, but Gold is obviously talented at what he does as his Rodell.

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                  linus RE: stuffed Feb 23, 2013 03:41 PM

                  i just don't get the notion gold has to keep up with anyone, other than his own and other good writers' standards.
                  this whole "who gets to a restaurant first" business is too, too tedious. who "discovers" a restaurant is pretty irrelevant to me. it ain't the fountain of youth or the source o' the nile.

                  rodell, talented? at what, 'cos it sure ain't writing.

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                    stuffed RE: linus Feb 23, 2013 04:45 PM

                    Compare the two reviews of Hart and Hunter. If you want to wade through paragraphs of Gold's biscuit history and self-reference, then his is useful. Talk about tedium.

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                      linus RE: stuffed Feb 23, 2013 08:56 PM

                      i'm sorry, i'm unable to compare, as reading rodell makes my toenails pop off in protest.

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                        stuffed RE: linus Feb 23, 2013 09:49 PM

                        Probably makes it hard for you to get a grip.

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                          linus RE: stuffed Feb 24, 2013 09:18 AM

                          getting a grip...now there's somehing that's overrated.

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                ipsedixit RE: linus Feb 23, 2013 12:09 PM

                Half the time Gold reads like he's writing just to write, sort of like someone who talks just because he likes listening to the sound of their own voice.

                It's rather annoying.

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                  linus RE: ipsedixit Feb 23, 2013 03:43 PM

                  see, i find the vast majority of other writers, not gold, read like loudmouths at a bar who like listening to themselves.

        2. J.L. RE: stuffed Feb 22, 2013 03:38 PM

          They both follow behind this very Chowboard oftentimes...

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