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trillen Feb 21, 2013 08:01 AM

Apologies if there's already been a thread or discussion on this board about this but I recently watched Jiro Dreams of Sushi and was wondering what people's opinions were of Jiro's restaurant, Sukiyabashi Jiro. Is the sushi that amazing here? Could I go elsewhere in the city for similar sushi quality and preparations but not have to pay the price or worry about finding a reservation opening? I know his son opened a restaurant in Roppongi Hills that is similar.

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    Ninisix RE: trillen Feb 21, 2013 08:32 PM

    No, no, Jiroo-San is not complicated, basically it is just a mix of simple and various things (hihi!). And ignore comments about his character.
    Well, if you are new to high-end sushi, it might be a bit difficult to understand.. Just don't expect the service to be transparent, they don't speak Japanese. I will try to give you hints if you want to give a try (already decided not to? too bad, hasty decision !):
    The set is nigiri only, the sequence is short and the shari(rice) warm, it should be your first warm shari sushi. The nigiri set changes between season, and as for a French menu, pieces like 'aji(mackerel)' will appear on the menu not at the same time, depending on the previous seasonal piece.
    The maguro, especially the 'chutoro(mid fatty tuna)', is one of the great 'nama(raw)' piece of high quality
    Try to book if possible at night, and last service will be better to have a bit more time.. usually the sequence, alternative sequence in fact, as each customers is serve at each tempo, you won't have to wait, but it will still be 30-40mn.
    In my opinion, the set at 30,000.-yens(with tax 31,500.-yens), is not expensive if you think that it is 1,500yens per piece. Jiroo's nigiri are beautifully shaped, and in a breath just melt in your mouth.. True, you have also his son, or some of his disciple, like Mizutani and Harutaka, but after having gone each year at Jiroo Ginza, I can not help compare them unfavorably.I am picky even with his second son, although his lunch is better than at Mizutani and at 17,000yens...

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      Ninisix RE: Ninisix Feb 22, 2013 01:40 AM

      I meant to say at Jiroo, they do not speak "English" ... obviously, they have litlle trouble in Japanese.

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        CaLBeaR1227 RE: Ninisix Dec 5, 2013 05:05 PM

        Jiro Ginza Honten (dad) and Jiro Roppongi (2nd son) ... anyone eaten at both before ... how do they compare in terms of neta and shari?

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          Ninisix RE: CaLBeaR1227 Dec 5, 2013 10:12 PM

          http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/901310

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          kevin RE: Ninisix Apr 24, 2014 11:22 AM

          what's 1500 yen equal to in US dollars right now ?????

          so i can get an idea of how much each nigiri sushi piece costs ?????

          thanks.

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            Ninisix RE: kevin Apr 24, 2014 03:08 PM

            15USD per piece

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              kevin RE: Ninisix Apr 24, 2014 04:05 PM

              Wow that is pricey per piece.

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                Ninisix RE: kevin Apr 24, 2014 10:26 PM

                Well, this is high end dining! Do you seriously think that 15USD per service dish is expensive at that level ?

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              prasantrin RE: kevin Apr 24, 2014 07:54 PM

              Yahoo currency offers up to date exchange rates. Really easy to use, and even easier to find.

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            VCB133 RE: trillen Feb 24, 2013 05:37 AM

            So, I'll give you my take as a foreigner who has lived her for a few years. It was a pretty memorable experience, but I think it is kind of "binary" -- you either like it or you hate it. Very rapid and what I felt was alot of pressure to eat each nigiri piece immediately -- so I had just sort of finished one and was savoring the experience and the next one was down and Jiro was sort of staring at me waiting for me to eat it before the temperature went off perfect. 14 pieces, one after another, maybe 25 minutes or so from start to finish. Relaxing tea and melon at a booth afterwards.

            Each piece was honestly the best of that type that I have ever had -- even awabi, which I am not a huge fan of, was fantastic at Sukiyabashi Jiro. And my friends and colleagues (both Japanese and now foreigners who have seen the movie) are always amused and entertained by the stories. And I have a photo of myself and wife and Ono-san that I am fond of. So, I am glad to have gone and it was truly excellent at every bite. But colleagues have not enjoyed the experience as much, and I can see the logic there. So, the summary of all this rambling: YMMV.

            1. J.L. RE: trillen Mar 1, 2013 08:54 PM

              I ate there a year or so before the movie was released.

              My impressions: Good Edomae sushi. Excellent, excellent rice. Lots of sauce on some of the pieces (but I'm sure Jiro-san intended it this way). Authentic, but I think I like my sushi with bit less sauce (but that's only my preference). It was a fast meal, but I have no problems with that.

              Food-wise, there are many closely comparable sushi-yas all over Tokyo... But if I was a filmmaker, of all the itamae in Japan, I would also choose Jiro-san as my subject.

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                ainternational RE: trillen Mar 10, 2013 03:55 PM

                Ok, I'll bite...

                I've been to the son's location in Roppongi several times mixed between lunch and dinner and to the main branch in Ginza once for dinner, where Jiro was serving.

                At least in my experiences, I found the Roppongi setting to be far more approachable and enjoyable. Along with my guest, generally for lunch we were the only two people in the restaurant on several occasions. In other cases, there may have been one other small group or couple. At the main branch on one weekday for dinner, it was just my group of two and another group of four, all Japanese.

                FYI, I'm a gaijin. My guest was Japanese. In Roppongi, they happily speak English and seemed to enjoy conversing with the guests, explaining items upon request, soliciting feedback and comments. It was interactive and mutual in terms of the discussion. A very quiet setting, I did not feel rushed, but the meal is rather fast compared to say, French, or another multi course plated experience.

                In Ginza, I definitely felt like there was a wall between Jiro and his guests. The other table of Japanese folks were constantly praising him, it was almost pathetic to be honest, but I am trying to respect the culture here and acknowledge that it is normal and perhaps even expected in this setting with this master chef. He himself was stoic, didn't say much and certainly did not speak any English to anyone in the establishment. I felt the dinner to be even more rushed despite that the bulk of the restaurant was empty.

                All that said, the sushi meals at both of these establishments have consistently been the best in my life and while the price is incredibly high, I would recommend it be tried - at least once (or twice!)

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                  kevin RE: ainternational Apr 24, 2014 11:23 AM

                  this sounds a lot like the old sushi nozawa in studio city, ca.

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                  Uncle Yabai RE: trillen Apr 23, 2014 04:41 PM

                  It seems Abe took Obama to Jiro in Ginza just yesterday. It is now official what many of us here in CH already knew: Jiro is the new Gonpachi.

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                    Ninisix RE: Uncle Yabai Apr 24, 2014 12:08 AM

                    Jiro's choice for conducting negociations surprised me, as I enjoyed eating there alone. But well, this place is rather the opposite of a Gonpachi ! I would even say that there is no comparaison possible!

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                      tigerjohn RE: Ninisix Apr 24, 2014 12:11 AM

                      I doubt any negociations were conducted as to do that, you need time. I am sure a few stern looks from Jiro on the pace of the president's eating ensured they were out of there in 30 minutes.

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                        Gargle RE: tigerjohn Apr 24, 2014 12:14 AM

                        Abe: "We're not going to agree about anything, are we?"

                        Obama: "Not a chance."

                        Abe: "Ok, let's just go for a quick meal then, I've got some stuff to take care of."

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                          killersmile RE: tigerjohn Apr 24, 2014 11:20 AM

                          Supposedly they took an hour and a half for dinner, Obama didn't eat the full course stopping early, and Jiro served the pieces at the pace of the diners.

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                      Uncle Yabai RE: trillen Apr 24, 2014 12:14 AM

                      Well, every dumb foreigner went to Gonpachi because that's where Koizumi took Clinton (and Bush), so everybody will want to go to Jiro now that Abe took Obama!

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                        Silverjay RE: Uncle Yabai Apr 24, 2014 11:36 AM

                        It's the perfect place because it pays deference to real Japanese culture (as opposed to a sort of slightly cartoon version at Gonpachi) but also just ensures that all the foreign FOMOs will not be going somewhere else.

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                        klyeoh RE: trillen Apr 24, 2014 12:37 AM

                        Jiro's already got that insane wait to get in. It's going to get that much crazier now.

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                          kevin RE: klyeoh Apr 24, 2014 11:24 AM

                          "Obama ate here"

                          right up there now with that chili cheese burger joint in north carolinas.

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                            J.L. RE: kevin Apr 24, 2014 04:24 PM

                            And let's not forget Roscoe's Chicken & Waffles...

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                          kevin RE: trillen Apr 24, 2014 04:46 PM

                          There's now a website for Jiro too:

                          http://www.sushi-jiro.jp/e-contents/e...

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                            joebloe RE: kevin Apr 26, 2014 08:32 PM

                            Obama stopped eating halfway thru the sushi meal. Isn't that insulting to the chef?

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                              klyeoh RE: joebloe Apr 27, 2014 06:51 PM

                              It is. But he is the President of the US, so I guess he *can* get away with that.
                              Obviously Obama's not into sushi ;-)

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                                la2tokyo RE: klyeoh Apr 27, 2014 07:49 PM

                                Anything other than vomiting on their Prime Minister is an improvement!

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                                  klyeoh RE: la2tokyo Apr 27, 2014 08:35 PM

                                  Good Lord, yes!

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                                jmatt RE: joebloe May 13, 2014 04:10 AM

                                Who cares. Maybe the most overrated restaurant on the planet. Don't care if the guy's a fucking "master," I'd guarantee that 99.9% of people could never tell the difference between it and a place a 1/4 of the price. Old bastard's laughing all the way to the bank. God love him.

                            2. monkeyrotica RE: trillen May 12, 2014 05:08 AM

                              A friendly reminder to NOT ask that your sushi be cooked.

                              http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/05/12...

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