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Mauviel or Ruffoni gratin pan?

latindancer Feb 19, 2013 05:19 PM

Having collected several pieces of copper Mauviel cookware over the years, I'm highly appreciative of the craftsmanship. I'm looking to purchase a large gratin pan and I'm surprised I'm unable to find anything over 2.3 qts.
I've called Sur La Table and they've decided to quit selling the oval and are now carrying the round, only.
William Sonoma has the 2.3 but I'm looking for one that's larger. They showed me Ruffoni. It's a hammered copper, much different than Mauviel, but it's larger and deeper, the size is perfect. My question...do you prefer one over the other?
I'm so partial to Mauviel but should I open my mind to this lovely Ruffoni pan? Thanks, in advance for any opinions.

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  1. tim irvine RE: latindancer Feb 19, 2013 05:58 PM

    I prefer Mauviel if it is one of their heavier lines. I'd check eBay or try one of the stores that my have some older stuff snaffled away like Dehillerin or Fantes.

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    1. re: tim irvine
      latindancer RE: tim irvine Feb 19, 2013 07:09 PM

      Thankyou. I'll try it.

      1. re: tim irvine
        latindancer RE: tim irvine Feb 20, 2013 09:09 AM

        I wish I'd taken your advice sooner and gone on Ebay to purchase that Dehillerin gratin (alarash found) that sold yesterday.
        Live and learn.

        1. re: tim irvine
          latindancer RE: tim irvine Feb 22, 2013 07:35 AM

          I ended up purchasing a Mauviel 17.5-inch gratin, brand new with box, on Ebay.
          It'll fit perfectly in my oven, which was a major consideration.
          I appreciate your suggestion...

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          critter101 RE: latindancer Feb 19, 2013 07:07 PM

          You might find more opinions on the Cookware board.

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          1. re: critter101
            latindancer RE: critter101 Feb 19, 2013 07:10 PM

            You're right....darn :).

            My bad.

          2. kaleokahu RE: latindancer Feb 19, 2013 08:03 PM

            Is 42 x 28 cm too small? http://lnx.rameria.com/en/product/33/...

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              alarash RE: kaleokahu Feb 19, 2013 11:50 PM

              This 54 cm x 33 cm Dehillerin gratin with loop handles sold today on ebay. (181079623428)

              A bit too rich for my blood, but I kind of regret not putting in a bigger bid.

              1. re: alarash
                latindancer RE: alarash Feb 20, 2013 09:02 AM


                That's exactly the size, shape and quality I'm looking for.
                The perfect, beautiful pan.
                You're right, the price is steep but I think worth it.

                1. re: latindancer
                  kaleokahu RE: latindancer Feb 20, 2013 09:10 AM

                  Make sure it will fit in your oven--with that Dehillerin, you'd need at 21.5" of diagonal clearance PLUS the handles.

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                    latindancer RE: kaleokahu Feb 20, 2013 09:22 AM


                    What a great point...the pans we purchase *must* fit into our ovens :).
                    I don't think it would have fit. I went from feeling sad about not purchasing it to, now, relieved.

                    1. re: latindancer
                      kaleokahu RE: latindancer Feb 20, 2013 09:59 AM

                      Hi, latindancer:

                      Yup. There's a reason why you can sometimes get hotel-grade and -sized pieces at bargain prices. I got a really good deal on a 4-gallon saucepan, which I think I've used twice just out of spite.

                      Our friend Alarash scored a 1-METER turbotier (40lbs) that we talk about using on an adolescent halibut, but that would have to be over an open fire, since neither of us has an oven sufficiently capacious.

                      The biggest gratin that comfortably fits in my 36-inch electric oven is a Lamalle that is 51cm long. I could fit a 60cm into the woodstove's oven, though.


                      1. re: kaleokahu
                        latindancer RE: kaleokahu Feb 20, 2013 11:30 AM

                        While I love my old Viking oven, the measurements preclude me from purchasing pots that I know I would love, like the ebay pan.
                        I'm now beginning to understand why Sur La Table is purchasing only the round Maviel instead of the oval. There are just too many smaller ovens out there to be able to fit the nice oval I'm looking for.
                        The handles take up a good amount of the room in the oven.
                        A 36-inch oven...that's one of the things I miss & a wood stove? Pretty much nirvana.

                        1. re: kaleokahu
                          latindancer RE: kaleokahu Feb 22, 2013 07:36 AM

                          Please keep your thoughts and suggestions coming.
                          For people, like me, who purchase without thinking it through from all angles, your post was truly helpful.


                          1. re: latindancer
                            kaleokahu RE: latindancer Feb 22, 2013 07:44 AM

                            You're very welcome.

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                      jljohn RE: latindancer Feb 20, 2013 10:31 AM

                      Gah! How did I miss that one in my searching? Probably because it was listed as a skillet. That kind of thing is always great when you find something that others might want to buy, but it's a real pain when you the looking for one!

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                        latindancer RE: jljohn Feb 20, 2013 11:33 AM

                        This one was a real beauty, for sure.

                  2. re: kaleokahu
                    latindancer RE: kaleokahu Feb 20, 2013 09:03 AM

                    Thanks, kaleokahu, it's a bit smaller than I'm looking for but a beautiful pot.

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                    GibsonGirl55 RE: latindancer Oct 17, 2013 10:04 PM

                    I have several Ruffoni pieces -- a 1.75 qt. saucepan, 4.25 qt. stew/stock pot and a 9.5" skillet. Very hefty and great heat conduction.

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