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Feb 17, 2013 02:58 PM

Seeking malty, golden, lightly hopped beer

I'm playing with a soup recipe and would like to include beer as an ingredient, but I'm not sure what the perfect beer is. I would like the beer to contribute a distinctly malty flavor, and a touch of sweetness would be nice. It must be a light colored beer. Not too bitter, less bitter than a traditional German pilsner, please. Could be an ale or lager. Must not be strongly phenolic.
Must be available in Rhode Island or Massachusetts.
I was thinking a German style bock, but American craft brewers seem to always interpret that style as more of an amber beer, and I'm looking for a bit lighter color.
Any suggestions?

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  1. When you talk about pronounced malt flavor I first think of great american barleywines. The problem is they won't have the light color you're looking for. As a solution you would not have to use very much to impart these flavor notes so that might be a workaround to the color issue... just use less because you need less. Not sure which available in your area, but you probably get dogfish in which case immortale is awesome.

    What will be the main liquid ingredient of the soup?

    16 Replies
    1. re: TombstoneShadow

      American Barleywines (e.g. Bigfoot) can be extremely hoppy.

      1. re: Chinon00

        Right, British will work better. I wonder how Fuller's Vintage Ale would perform?

        1. re: Jim Dorsch

          No barleywines are light in color. Munich Helles seems ideal for the OP. Generous malt, almost sweet, subtle hop presence, light colored. Had a Weihenstephaner Original last week. Awesome brew.

          1. re: Chinon00

            "Had a Weihenstephaner Original last week". As did I however, I was surprisingly left unimpressed.

            1. re: JAB

              What are some Munich Helles lagers that you like?

              1. re: Chinon00

                None that I can name. Perhaps, that's it. It may be a style that's not to my liking. I knew that this was a highly rated version and was excited to try it but...

                1. re: JAB

                  No matter how highly rated a Munich Helles is it won't taste like an IPA.

                  1. re: Chinon00

                    I wasn't anticipating the flavor of an IPA but, I was anticipating flavor.

                    1. re: JAB

                      What are you favorite low hopped beers?

                      1. re: Chinon00

                        I'm fond of many Pilsners / Pilseners both German and Czech.

                        1. re: JAB

                          Perhaps you just don't care for malty beers. Do you like bocks, doppelbocks, Scotch ales?

                          1. re: JAB

                            Czech pils run about 20 IBUs higher than Munich Helles; and there's even a higher disparity when it comes to hefeweizen, dunkelweiss, and wit. Do you appreciate any of those styles?

                            1. re: Chinon00

                              Hefs and Wits not so much. I can't immediately recall having had a dunkelweiss. I do however look forward to trying a Weihenstaphaner Hef when the opportunity presents itself.

                        2. re: JAB

                          Malt has flavor. It's more subtle than hops, but it is there. Promise.

                          1. re: Josh

                            The aroma and flavor of fresh wort reminds me of Grape-Nuts, which is logical, since that cereal includes malt as an ingredient.

        2. Narragansett Bock
          Beck's Sapphire
          Berkshire Steel Rail

          1. Traditional Dunkles Bocks are dark amber/brown, while Maibocks/Helles Bocks are pale- those are the ones you are looking for. Einbecker Mai-Urbock can be stellar as long as you get some that has not been too exposed to the light (hopefully your local shopkeeper will get you a sixer from a sealed case).

            1. Considering the flavor it seems you're looking for, why bother using a beer at all? Why not just buy some specialty malts at a homebrew shop and steep them in the broth? Especially if you're looking for something less bitter than a German pilsner.

              1. Hacker-Pschorr Anno 1417 might work