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splatgirl Feb 12, 2013 02:03 PM

So far, can't find it. We are gin lovers. Is it worth an ongoing effort to find?

  1. MGZ Feb 12, 2013 02:08 PM

    Yes. Go to San Francisco if you have to. Drink it neat the first time you taste it. It's my favorite gin.

    Otherwise, order it from SFWT: https://www.sfwtc.com/store/pc/Junipe...

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      ncyankee101 Feb 12, 2013 02:09 PM

      Hi-time shows it on their website, and dropped the price to $23 (I remember at one time it was over $30).

      That doesn't necessarily mean they have it in stock, I have tried to get Duffau Napoleon my last two orders with no luck.

      1. davis_sq_pro Feb 12, 2013 02:32 PM

        Personally I think it's very good, perhaps even excellent, but not worth putting a ton of effort into finding if you can get another, similar gin.

        Is No. 209 available in your area? It's also from SF, very similar in style. You also might consider looking for Citadelle, Bluecoat, or Aviation -- all New American style gins that are thematically at least somewhat comparable to Junipero.

        What gins do you normally enjoy?

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        1. re: davis_sq_pro
          splatgirl Feb 12, 2013 03:27 PM

          Bluecoat and Hendricks are our house faves and almost always on hand around here. We also both really like Plymouth. Presently, we are working on a bottle of North Shore (mostly because it's local to us. I'd probably not buy again) and just finished a bottle of Farmers, which I thought was OK to boring and Boy disliked.
          Bombay Sapphire if we are slumming, a throwback to our entry level gin drinking days :)

          I did see No. 209, yes. Will try!. The guy helping me recommended a brand I'd never heard of as the best he's ever tasted that I am forgetting the name of, argh. I'll recognize it when I see it, hopefully.

          Because I couldn't find Junipero and I wanted something different, I ended up going the complete opposite direction and got a bottle of Boosma Oude. There's something of an Inside joke for us that it's Dutch, and It'll be his VD gift. We'll see!

          1. re: splatgirl
            davis_sq_pro Feb 12, 2013 08:14 PM

            Funny about slumming it on the Sapphire. Bombay (regular, non-Sapphire) is probably my favorite general purpose mixing gin. The more "upscale" Sapphire is a distant -- and bland -- second.

            Great choice on the Boomsma Oude. Good stuff. Try it in a Pegu Club for an interesting (IMO) twist. Another one to look out for, if you want different, is Ransom Old Tom. Super flavorful, heavy, a bit sweet. Just awesome.

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              ncyankee101 Feb 12, 2013 10:38 PM

              I quite like the bottle of Hayman's I have. I meant to order a bottle of Bols barrel aged in my last order from Hitime but got carried away loading the boat with some closeout tequila and forgot. They have a good price of $35 for a liter.

              1. re: davis_sq_pro
                EvergreenDan Feb 14, 2013 12:31 PM

                Ransom is ... I dunno ... coriander-flavored whiskey? That is some weird stuff.

                Makes a pretty awesome Negroni with Punt e Mes. Maybe I'll have that tonight. It doesn't go into most gin drinks willingly.

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                1. re: EvergreenDan
                  davis_sq_pro Feb 14, 2013 12:50 PM

                  It's absolutely amazing in a G&T in my opinion. I use Q tonic, some Ransom, a few dashes of lemon juice, a few dashes of lemoncello (to balance the sweetness and get some additional citrus), and a dash or two of Bitter Truth aromatic bitters. Not the classic G&T but very nice in my opinion.

                  Usually, though, I just sip the Ransom straight. So maybe you're right on the whiskey comparison.

                  1. re: EvergreenDan
                    monopod Feb 25, 2013 01:23 PM

                    Martinez, no? Isn't that a classic place for an old tom? I personally love it.

                2. re: splatgirl
                  splatgirl Feb 16, 2013 03:37 PM

                  Well, the Boomsma Oude has been cracked. First neat, which I liked a lot. Then Boy gave it the G&T test, and I made an Old Fashioned-ish kind of thing, minus the cherry.
                  I was surprised by it's success in a G&T. I was expecting that to be a fail, but it was really pretty good.
                  The muddled orange, pinch of sugar and orange bitters combo was nice. If I remember to buy one, I'm going to try it with grapefruit next time.

                  I think I'm categorizing it as a nice summer alternative to bourbon. Still interesting, flavor-wise, but fresher and not as heavy.

                3. re: davis_sq_pro
                  zin1953 Feb 14, 2013 11:36 AM

                  Just an aside: love No. 209 . . .

                  1. re: zin1953
                    MGZ Feb 14, 2013 12:22 PM

                    Me too.

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                      splatgirl Feb 14, 2013 12:24 PM

                      Thanks to you both. It's definitely on my list for next trip!

                4. ellaystingray Feb 15, 2013 04:18 AM

                  As long as we went as far a field as Boomsma "Oude", I'll throw a couple out there that shouldn't be too hard to find in California but may be a pipe dream otherwise unless your state is shippable.

                  St. George Spirits makes three gins--Botanivore, Dry Rye and Terroir--that I find amazing. I am also a sucker for the apothecary-ish bottles they use.

                  Another product I love is called Sage, from Art in the Age distillery. It is a "gin" with Sage instead of Juniper as the fingerprint botanical, though there are a bunch of other (oddball?) ones in there too like Sumac and Dandelion. I love it in a Negroni but you have to like the base product to appriciate this twist.

                  And FWIW, I love Junipero. Anchor Distilling deserves a lot of credit for getting into the craft distilling business long before it was fashionable.

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                  1. re: ellaystingray
                    MGZ Feb 15, 2013 06:25 AM

                    "I love Junipero. Anchor Distilling deserves a lot of credit for getting
                    into the craft distilling business long before it was fashionable."

                    Absolutely. They were a bit on top of the "craft" beer thing too.

                    For what it's worth, when I get my hands on a bottle of Junipero again, I am looking forward to seeing if I can find some of the new batches of American Vermouths. This NY Times article rekindled my belief that martini making and martini drinking should always be subject to ongoing experimentation:


                    Now that we've got a few years worth of "new" gins and are starting to have greater access to different vermouths, it's gettin' fun!

                    1. re: ellaystingray
                      EvergreenDan Feb 18, 2013 04:28 PM

                      I just saw all three St George gins locally. Any notes? Which one to try first? The Dry Rye sounds pretty interesting.

                      1. re: EvergreenDan
                        zin1953 Feb 18, 2013 04:41 PM

                        I was at St. George Distillery this past Saturday.

                        The "Botanivore" is the most "classic" in style -- think Tanqueray/Beefeater/Bombay -- I bought a 750ml of this.

                        The "Terroir" is made using Douglas fir and other herbs -- but while I find it more "piney," it's also more delicate . . . to me. (Be advised the distillery thinks it's the other way 'round.)

                        They weren't pouring the "Dry Rye."

                        1. re: EvergreenDan
                          rcb4d Feb 26, 2013 09:02 AM

                          Hi-Time Wine sells a 3-pack of 200ml bottles, perfect for sampling. I have one en route; I'm going to have myself a tasting "party" this weekend. By party, I mean it'll be my wife and I drinking G&Ts and Martinis.

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                        hawkeyeui93 Feb 20, 2013 05:01 PM

                        Just got it in my local liquor store in Ames, Iowa [and the State of Iowa is a liquor control state, so I am pleasantly surprised]. The problem is that it comes with an ultra-premium price [$47 plus tax]. I want to try it and I am a huge gin fan, but it has a steep admission to ride ....

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                        1. re: hawkeyeui93
                          zin1953 Feb 21, 2013 04:33 AM

                          Option: find it in a bar/restaurant, and simply buy a drink, not a bottle.

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                            hawkeyeui93 Feb 21, 2013 05:48 AM

                            Good call. Or stop complaining and shell out $50 and enjoy the whole bottle at home. I am about to be slammed by ten-plus inches of snow, so this may be a good time to give it a whirl.

                            1. re: hawkeyeui93
                              ncyankee101 Feb 21, 2013 09:31 AM

                              I'm sure it will make a great gin buck ;-)

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                                hawkeyeui93 Feb 21, 2013 12:55 PM

                                It better! :)

                        2. Delucacheesemonger Feb 25, 2013 03:56 PM

                          Add me to the yes list. Along with Old Tom Ransom and Old Raj 110, it is one of the three l keep in my home all the time.

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                            hawkeyeui93 Aug 8, 2013 09:13 PM

                            I know this is about six months old, but this gin is worth the effort to find .... Very nice, especially neat!

                            1. JMF Aug 9, 2013 08:17 AM

                              I don't really care for the Junipero that much. I think it is a good gin, but not a great one. I think it very thin and one note. Mostly juniper, with the rest of the botanicals hidden. It was sharp tasting and had very little aroma. Things may have changed. It has been while since I last tasted it, around two years if I remember correctly since my last tasting event with Anchor, and it was six years ago when I really sat down with it and reviewed it.

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                              1. re: JMF
                                hawkeyeui93 Aug 9, 2013 08:38 AM

                                The interesting thing for me is that I thought it was really balanced when I used it in my favorite summer drink [gin, fresh lemon juice, and ginger beer/ale]. It worked well with my ingredients.

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