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chowhounder411 Feb 10, 2013 08:32 AM

I'm looking for Blind Pig or Pliny The Elder (who isn't) in PA. I called a few retailers listed on the RR web site and they were all out and some frustrated they can't get any. Anybody have experience buying cases of these beers in PA ever?

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    Lewes Feb 26, 2013 06:45 PM

    I live on the East Coast and periodically order (bottles) from Blackwell's in San Francisco as they ship. Always seem to have Pliny, and sometimes limited Blind Pig. Contact Gary at 415-386-9463.

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      cwdonald Feb 28, 2013 11:51 AM

      PA Liquor laws do not permit shipment of liquor wine or beer directly to the buyer. For example if you join a beer of the month club they have to send it to a private courier and you have to sign for it. I doubt Blackwell's will ship to PA, though they probably would ship to neighboring states such as DE, NJ and NY.

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        chowhounder411 Feb 28, 2013 12:38 PM

        That sucks! What is with these intense beer laws in PA?

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      bg90027 Feb 19, 2013 04:45 PM

      You won't find it anywhere by the case. Most retailers I know that carry it have policies of limiting customers to 3 bottles. Even with those policies meant to stretch out supplies, it sells out fast.

      I live in CA and only see Blind Pig a couple of times a year in the bottle. Pliny is a bit easier to find but it's out of stock much more than it's in stock at my stores.

      The RR web site lists the stores that carry it. You just have to keep trying if you really want it.

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        JessKidden Feb 20, 2013 05:36 AM

        A large portion of retail beer sales in Pennsylvania are from what are locally known as "distributors" (not to be confused with the wholesale distribution companies in other states). These type of retailers, by law, can only sell beer to the public in case quantities.

        If loose bottles or sixpacks are bought in PA, they come from bars or other licensed restaurants that will also sell for off-premise consumption, known casually as "bottle shops". These licenses are prohibited from selling in quantities of MORE than 192 oz. at a time.

        As noted above, the PA Russian River wholesaler does not get Pliny or Blind Pig in bottles, so for these beers, the "case only" restriction does not apply. But, other Russian River bottled beers, if/when sold at the PA retail distributors, would have to be purchased by the case.

        I realize that west coasters might not be familiar with PA's 'case law' but it is wrong to state that the beers do not come in, or cannot be sold by, the case.

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          Insidious Rex Feb 20, 2013 10:30 AM

          I dont know but Im thinking finding a CASE of Pliny the Elder to buy and take home in PA is close to running across a unicorn. Ive never even seen a case of the stuff including in multiple stores in Santa Rosa. So take a picture if you run across one...

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            JessKidden Feb 21, 2013 04:24 AM

            > I dont know but Im thinking finding a CASE of Pliny the Elder > to buy and take home in PA is close to running across a
            > unicorn.

            Yup, and I noted that twice -

            "Pretty sure the only Pliny The Elder that is shipped to PA is the draught in kegs."

            "...the PA Russian River wholesaler does not get Pliny or Blind Pig in bottles..."

            The point remains that any other Russian River bottled beers sold in PA by retail distributors would have to be sold according to PA "case law".

            See post below for Bella Vista retail sales list.
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8898...

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            Insidious Rex Feb 20, 2013 10:31 AM

            I stand corrected! :D

            http://russianriverbrewing.com/iphone...

            Maybe not the case he wanted though. And just a bit too beer-geek tacky if you ask me...

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              bg90027 Feb 20, 2013 11:25 AM

              I was only speaking about Pliny and Blind Pig, which is what the OP was asking about. Those beers simply aren't available by the case anywhere. They are sold on tap or in 500 ml bottles, sold by the bottle.

              Russian River is a small production brewery. 50% of their sales come occur directly at the Santa Rosa brewery. They recently pulled out of Washington state because they felt they didn't have enough beer to meet their local California demand so I'd be surprised if they sent PA a lot of beer to sell by the case.

              If you're seeing any Russian River beer sold to customers by the case in PA, I'd be curious what it is.

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                chowhounder411 Feb 20, 2013 01:09 PM

                I called a few places and one guy said he gets their sours every once in a while. He also said people from all over the Northeast call him looking for RR - I'm not from PA

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                  JessKidden Feb 21, 2013 04:27 AM

                  > If you're seeing any Russian River beer sold to customers
                  > by the case in PA, I'd be curious what it is.

                  http://bellavistabeverage.com/product...

                  Bella Vista Distributors > Retail Showroom > Cases Q-Z

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                    bg90027 Feb 21, 2013 12:28 PM

                    Thanks.

                    Interesting. I'd have to imagine that the Supplication and Consecration are about $250 for a case. I wonder how many people would really want to buy those in that quantity, even if it is their only way to buy it. I don't think I would and Consecration is probably my favorite beer.

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                      JAB Feb 21, 2013 12:55 PM

                      Their IPAs get all of the hype but, their sours are outstanding.

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                        bg90027 Feb 21, 2013 02:42 PM

                        I agree. I'm just not in the habit of buying such expensive beers in case quantities.

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                          JAB Feb 21, 2013 05:10 PM

                          The tap prices were reasonable at the brewery for the sours but, the bottles were $12 for 375 ML.

            2. JAB Feb 17, 2013 12:17 PM

              The only time that I've seen cases is at the brewery itself. It appears to me that this stuff is allocated by the bottle and not by the case. It's much easier to find Elder on tap than in a bottle.

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                chuckl Feb 16, 2013 08:59 AM

                According to Rate Beer, you might be able to find it at the Drafting Room. http://www.ratebeer.com/Place/Country...

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                  cwdonald Feb 17, 2013 10:49 AM

                  You are not going to be able to buy a case from the Draughting Room. Chuck is right.. check with the wholesaler. I know for example here in Doylestown B&B carries barrel aged corked products... but I have not seen either BP or PtE there.

                2. JessKidden Feb 10, 2013 11:11 AM

                  Pretty sure the only Pliny The Elder that is shipped to PA is the draught in kegs. The bottled products one sees in PA are some of their Barrel-aged corked & Caged "-ation" series beers.

                  I'd check with the local wholesaler distributor (Origlio Beverage in Phila. 215-698-9500) or the brewery to find out which beers, and in what packages, they send to PA before spending too much time looking for products that don't exist in that market.

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