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David Chang refrigerator kimchi

I get a lot of strawberry daikons in my CSA box, so two weeks ago I made David Chang's daikon kimchi using the NY Times recipe:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/05/din...

The texture's right and it tastes pretty good. It's a bit sweet for my taste, but maybe that will ferment out eventually.

I substituted regular Kikkoman soy sauce for the usukuchi and that flavor's a bit strong. What's soy doing in kimchi at all? Next time maybe I'll substitute salt.

Nappa kimchi recipe with commentary from Chang:

http://www.today.com/id/33482489/site...

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  1. I made another chang recipe that called for kimchi.

    http://www.chow.com/recipes/29507-bru...

    I find that his recipes for kimchi are not traditional, but they come out decently. But are not really like what I was taught to make when it comes to making the stuff. And I have found that, unsurprisingly, sore bought does not make a good substitute.

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    1. re: laserbeams

      Where I live there's excellent store-bought kimchi, two Korean grocery stores make their own in house and a Korean restaurant makes some that's sold in a few local stores. My only reason for trying to make my own was that I get so much daikon.

      1. re: Robert Lauriston

        I took this to a party and everybody liked it.

        The garlic is basically raw, next time I'll crack it, in fact maybe I should do that now with what's left.

        Some people liked the slices of ginger.

    2. I am getting ready to make a batch of Momofuku's kimchi in a couple weeks and it calls for usukucki. I bet I am doing the same one!

      Anyhoo - the usukuchi is strong in what way if you can describe. I am making a special trip to town to get it so if I can sub kikkoman without ruining the batch... Or is it something special, but just not for you?

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      1. re: Sal Vanilla

        I used regular Kikkoman and thought theflavor was too strong. If usukuchi is much lighter it might be better, but I don't really think soy sauce belongs in kimchi.

        1. re: Robert Lauriston

          I think it is a form of soy sauce, what the exact flavor is - I don't know.

          I have not made kimchi in a few years I think. I can't remember whether or not it had soy sauce. I know there was fish sauce.

          1. re: Sal Vanilla

            Traditional recipes usually use saeujeot (Korean salted shrimp) rather than fish sauce. Chang's uses both.

            1. re: Robert Lauriston

              I think it's pretty common to use both, but the fish sauce is usually a Korean anchovy sauce.

              Here's the recipe I use for kimchi and kkakdugi - the only difference is I use half the rice porridge called for in the recipe:

              http://gastronomyblog.com/2010/11/13/...

              1. re: calumin

                Wow, that's a complex and interesting recipe.

                1. re: calumin

                  I think the last tie I made it I made it with anchovy sauce, Not the shrimp, but knew it was most often used.

                  Of course I also used too much and the wrong pepper (and the right). So I am not the go to girl. I could eat it until I couldn't... Argh

          2. re: Sal Vanilla

            Usukuchi means "light palate" so I would assume it would be light flavored soy sauce.

          3. I have been searching in vain for Daikon radishes to make pickled radish and carrot for banh mi.

            How much different do they taste from red radishes?

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            1. re: kengk

              I find the pepperiness less harsh in Daikon, but if I had no option, I'd go with the red rather than go without a dish. I guess I'm lucky, I can find them at all the regular grocery stores.

              1. re: kengk

                Daikon is sometimes more earthy and definitely peppery. I think red radishes would be fine in banh mi, though I'm not sure they'd make good kimchi.

                No Asian markets in your area?

                1. re: Robert Lauriston

                  +1. Although I had some fabulous watermelon radishes awile back that I immediately thought would make for some good mul kimchi.

                  You can find daikon in pretty much any asian market that carries produce. I've seen them at Whole Foods, too.

                  1. re: C. Hamster

                    Slightly OT: I just recently tried watermelon radishes and they are the best thing ever. Delicious AND pretty!

                    1. re: C. Hamster

                      Actually, I think I used watermelon radish. Maybe strawberry daikon is what my CSA farm calls it.

                    2. re: Robert Lauriston

                      The Korean daikon that is usually used for kkakdugi is different from Japanese daikon. It is shorter and fatter, and the texture is more dense.

                      I think you could use Japanese daikon and it would still be fine, but I haven't tried it -- I've only used Japanese daikon in soup.

                      1. re: calumin

                        With stores like 99Ranch, HMart, and local Korean markets I have the choice of the long Japanese daikon, the fatter Korean, a green top Korean, and several sizes of baby daikon (with greens). I like texture of the small ones, about 3" long, 1" diameter, best.

                    3. re: kengk

                      Sometimes they call them mooli. Ask your grocer's produce manager if they will order them, sometimes they will.

                    4. What is strawberry daikons? I have two daikons from my CSA...about a foot long each. I need to do something with them, they're taking up too much fridge space.

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                      1. re: pagesinthesun

                        A wide variety of vegetables can be seasoned this way, regardless of whether they are common in Korea or not.

                        On weekends HMart has a sampling table of house made kimchi. Not all have the red pepper powder (especially the seaweed based ones). But ones with a similar red season include nape (the most common), daikon (cubed or strips), garlic, cucumber, green chilies, squid, greens, fish cake.

                        1. re: pagesinthesun

                          Google doesn't find many references to strawberry daikon. I'm thinking it's just what my CSA farm calls watermelon radish. They look the same in photos. They're roundish, white and/or green on the outside, and red on the inside. Here's a picture from the farm's web site:

                          http://fullbellyfarm.com/recipes/roas...

                          1. re: Robert Lauriston

                            http://sustainableseedco.com/heirloom...

                            Several interesting ones here. I guess I will either have to grow them myself or drive to/through Atlanta. I'm thinking grow them.

                            http://sustainableseedco.com/radish/

                        2. http://video.pbs.org/video/2304559402
                          is a kimchi demo from the PBS Mind of a Chef series.

                          While it uses napa, daikon could be substituted.

                          You can also buy prepared 'kimchi base'
                          http://www.asianfoodgrocer.com/produc...