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First it was burgers. Now it's lasagne. I say "neigh"

Harters Feb 7, 2013 01:35 PM

I wasnt altogether surprised to hear that some "value" burgers contained unadvertised horsemeat. That's what you get for buying "value" crap.

But I am suprised that Findus lasagne has been found to have between 60% and 100% horsemeat. And that the Food Standard Agency is advisign folk not to eat them.

Seeing as these lasagne have been made in France, where they understand the eating of horsemeat and regard it as a premium product, you have to wonder how it's got into a bottom end frozen British lasagne.

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    DavidT RE: Harters Feb 7, 2013 02:07 PM

    Any news on the Lasagne Bolognese from LIDL? I believe that is also made in France (and is pretty tasty!).

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      Harters RE: DavidT Feb 8, 2013 06:45 AM

      As far as I can see, Lidl has so far only coughed to horsemeat in the burgers.

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        mr_gimlet RE: Harters Feb 8, 2013 07:36 PM

        Would that be My Lidl Pony?

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          Theresa RE: mr_gimlet Feb 9, 2013 06:02 AM

          Arf arf :o)

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            Harters RE: mr_gimlet Feb 9, 2013 07:05 AM

            I laffed myself "horse".

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              sunshine842 RE: mr_gimlet Feb 12, 2013 07:48 AM

              oh, you sick bastard. But I LOLd.

        2. Veggo RE: Harters Feb 9, 2013 07:30 AM

          Be wary of any food combo advertised as a "quinella" or "trifecta".

          1. Robin Joy RE: Harters Feb 9, 2013 12:35 PM

            It's low in fat, but too much Shergar.

            1. zuriga1 RE: Harters Feb 9, 2013 02:32 PM

              I hope it doesn't become a stable part of our diet. The trouble with horsemeat is that you can get bits stuck in your teeth.

              Credit to DH for those. I'm not that clever.

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                Frizzle RE: Harters Feb 9, 2013 03:18 PM

                'And that the Food Standard Agency is advisign folk not to eat them.'

                Why are they saying not to eat the food? Are they implying it's unsafe?

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                  Harters RE: Frizzle Feb 10, 2013 03:12 AM

                  Yes. They are implying that it's unsafe.

                  Horsemeat intended for human consumption, as permitted in a number of countries, is one thing. However, there is a worry that this probable illegal act may have used horses which had been treated with medications that should not be allowed into the human food chain.

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                    Frizzle RE: Harters Feb 11, 2013 04:05 AM

                    Ah. That makes sense now. It is a criminal act then with serious public health implications. It reminds me of the milk scandal from China a couple of years ago. I'm not sure if it was big news in the west.

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                      Harters RE: Frizzle Feb 11, 2013 04:40 AM

                      The government is now managing to face two ways (no surprises there, then) saying on the one hand that processed beef products are safe to eat, yet also saying there may be more bad news when product tests are received later in the week. I start from the premise that politicians are lying shits who can't generally be trusted to operate a social event in a beer making facility.

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                        Robin Joy RE: Frizzle Feb 11, 2013 04:44 AM

                        Is the issue that horses may have been dosed with medicines which should not be consumed by humans? I doubt if the Romanian nags which seem to be the source of this meat have ever been seen by a vet!

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                          Harters RE: Robin Joy Feb 11, 2013 06:07 AM

                          Robin - yes, in so far as I understand the news reports.

                          Whilst the abattoir is Romanian, your guess is as good as mine where the nags may have actually come from.

                          The food chain appears to be that the French owned Findus, contracts with another French company to make the lasagne. That company sub-contracts to a subsidiary in Luxembourg. Sub-contractor sources its meat through a Cypriot company which orders it from Romania.

                          Beats me why folk who want to eat lasagne can't go down their local Sainsbury and buy a pound of mince and a pack of lasagne sheets - like wot I do.

                  2. Robin Joy RE: Harters Feb 10, 2013 05:07 AM

                    Does a horse cost less than a cow? If not then why bother?

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                      Harters RE: Robin Joy Feb 10, 2013 06:03 AM

                      It's being heavily trawled now that this is a criminal act. Assuming that's true, then it is probable that it is dodgy horsemeat, rather than a reputable supply and, hence, cheap.

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                        J Sheridan RE: Robin Joy Feb 12, 2013 06:18 AM

                        According to Radio 4's Food Programme, you could pick up an unwanted nag in Ireland for 10 euros and sell it for slaughter for (I think) 50. It was picked up by the Irish RSPCA who found fieldsful of maltreated/underfed horses and then discovered they were off to the abattoir.

                        I'm with Harters: make your own. Though what's in Sainsbury's mince ...?

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                          Robin Joy RE: J Sheridan Feb 12, 2013 06:34 AM

                          An unwanted Irish nag or two I could understand. But this seems to have been on an industrial scale. Hundreds and hundreds of horses, probably for years, with many many people in the know. There must be grillions of cheaper puffed out old milkers around Europe.

                          Hey, I have no knowledge of rural economics, so what do I know? Just curious.

                      2. Veggo RE: Harters Feb 11, 2013 06:22 AM

                        I was always told not to look a gift lasagna in the mouth.

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                          Harters RE: Harters Feb 12, 2013 05:21 AM

                          Today's Guardian notes that an anagram of "Findus lasagne" is "Fed us slain nag".

                          And a joke doing the rounds suggests that China has jumped on the Tesco burger bandwagon. They're now selling quarter-pandas

                          1. sunshine842 RE: Harters Feb 12, 2013 07:47 AM

                            based on the quotes I'm seeing in the French press, Findus was pretty surprised to find their food was 60-100% horsemeat, too....

                            They're shouting criminal investigations and criminal penalties when they get to the end of the very long distribution chain.

                            It's really bizarre, because horsemeat is more expensive than beef in France...and yes, I realize that the horsemeat seems (at this point) to be coming from Romania.

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