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Great American rose?

I love a good Provencal rose - one that's dry and has good acidity and aromas of red berries and loves garlicky seafood dishes.
Does any winery in America make a rose like that, or am I searching in vain?

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  1. MANY wineries make it . . . where do you live?

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    1. re: zin1953

      Could you recommend a few? I live in Rhode Island.

      1. re: Idyllwild

        Well, sadly, that could be an issue, as many of the rosés in question are not made in sufficient amounts to be sold in Rhode Island. Thus, either you may have to order online (and I don't know off the top of my head about shipping to R.I.), or you have have to travel a bit in order to find them.

        All of these are vintage-dated ***unless*** otherwise noted.

        IN RANDOM ORDER . . .

        Edmunds St. John "Bone Jolly" Gamay Rosé
        Donkey & Goat "Isabelle's Cuvée" Grenache Rosé
        Dashe Vin Gris
        Unti Rosé
        Copain Tous Ensemble Rosé
        Tablas Creek Rosé
        Terre Rouge Vin Gris
        Meyer Family Syrah Rosé
        Anglim Rosé

        . . . . among others.

        1. re: zin1953

          Agreed. In the U.S. a lot of the Roses can be found around late April - June and the popular ones sell out by mid-summer. Maybe a trip to New York to quality wine stores in late Spring is in order =). Also you may want to check with New York wine stores if they can ship to RI.

          Winesearcher.com is a good resource to locate stores.

          1. re: zin1953

            I'd add the La Clarine Farm rosé to this excellent list. But, I think the most recent vintage is sold out.

            1. re: zin1953

              I would add Beckman to that list, but for RI, I sort of doubt that it is available.

              Hunt

              1. re: Bill Hunt

                Just to clarify, while I do live in RI, I'm not on parole. I'm allowed to cross state lines and I do so frequently.

                1. re: Idyllwild

                  Thus the difference between people in the East and the West. I can drive for 6+ hours and still be in California . . . drive that long starting in Rhode Island and you'll probably pass through six states!

                  1. re: Idyllwild

                    It's not just the "state lines," but availability anywhere near you. Beckman is a Central Coast (CA) producer of Rhône varietals, though he dabbles in some Burgundian varietals, as well.

                    In AZ, we are lucky to have some (but certainly not all), of his offerings.

                    I just do not know the NE distribution model, so added the qualifier.

                    Good luck, and Rosé can be a wonderful wine, whether imported, or domestic (US), though many US offerings are... well, how to say it? Bland and sweet?

                    Hunt

                2. re: zin1953

                  Nice list. The Sinskey Vin Gris of Pinot Noir is another good one.

                  1. re: Robert Lauriston

                    Robert,

                    I have not tried that, but predicated on your rec. will. Robert Sinskey does some very nice wines.

                    Thank you,

                    Hunt

                3. re: Idyllwild

                  Check out Westport Rivers winery. Heck you could drive there!

                  They make a nice rosé that you would most likely enjoy. Dry and minerally. I also really like their sparkler.

                4. re: zin1953

                  Zin - excluding price points for say Bandol roses, what thoughts do you have on QPR of old world roses to our homegrown roses? I tend to think the values still are with the old world roses
                  thx

                  1. re: ibstatguy

                    OK, I'll play . . . . please note, however, that the OP was asking specifically about American rosés in a (broadly similar) style similar to those from Provence.

                    There are any number of excellent rosés from the Côtes-du-Rhône (CdR) appellation, and these continue to provide great value as well. This is true as well for some of the rosés from Lirac. Tavel, sadly, has either gone the way of a Domaine Tempier in terms of price, or else the quality has dropped off as corners are cut to keep the price down. (IMHO, of course.) Domaine Ott is right up there with other Bandol, despite the specific appellation of their various wines. Mas de Gourgognier has long done a great job with their rosé from the Les Beaux de Provence appellation, and it's still affordable.

                    But I tend to think the "great buys" in rosés of this type, aside from CdR, are coming from Spain -- still Old World, just not French.

                    Cheers,
                    Jason

                    1. re: zin1953

                      my question was inartfully posed but I thank you for the response. I was trying to express that I tend to think that our New World roses are overpriced compared to what is available from the Old World

                      Best,

                      1. re: zin1953

                        Just had the Domaine Ott the other night at Farallon, and it was very good. However, since it was in the "sommelier's pairing," I have no idea about PP's there.

                        Hunt

                        1. re: zin1953

                          Best value rose for me in the past three years has been the Charles Bieler rose from Provence, Syrah - Grenache. Wide distribution - should be about $10- $11 and positively delicious.

                          1. re: jock

                            I'll have to check this out. We usually do Domaine Houchart from Provence for the same reason. Zippy, widely available and only about $10.

                            Downside is they moved from AOC Aix-en-Provence to AOC Provence a couple of years ago and while still a great value, I have found it not quite as good as it was.

                        2. re: ibstatguy

                          Once in a while I find domestic wines that are price-competitive with imports of the same general style and level of quality, but it's rare.

                          In some vintages, at least, I've thought the Donkey & Goat rosé was as good or better than Bandol rosés in the same ~$25 price range.

                          1. re: Robert Lauriston

                            I received an offering for the Arnot Roberts rose at $22 but know nothing about although I know AR is very well regarded generally in some quarters. Thanks for the heads up on Donkey & Goat

                            1. re: ibstatguy

                              I like the Arnot-Roberts rosé a lot and would recommend trying it. Here is some info on the '11: http://sfwine.wordpress.com/2012/02/1...

                      2. If you can find Ode to Lulu by Bedrock Wine - it's my favorite affordable Rose. Rhode Island, I believe, is not the most wine friendly state so it may be hard to find there.

                        1. Shinn Estate on Long Island makes a lovely Rose that would meet your requirements. You may have to order from them direct, though.

                          1. http://www.coastalwinetrail.com/Home.htm might be fum to visit. Westport Vineyards (http://www.westportrivers.com/) makes a delicious pinot noir rose.

                            It won't hurt to get out and let producers know what you want.

                            1. Thanks for all the tips, I'll be looking for some of these. Tablas Creek and Anglim are favorites of mine, but I can't remember seeing a rose from either before. Shinn was already on my list to visit, so now I have more reason to do so.

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                              1. re: Idyllwild

                                Based on these far wiser or better palates than mine (Naugahyde at best), don't hesitate to let the vineyards you visit know what you want. Yes, there are climate constraints, but the basic planting also includes customer demand. Otherwise, we'd be looking at foxy wines into the future.

                                So stand up and talk to the producers.

                                I've been whanging about roses in increasingly hot summers, and suddenly there are racks of roses in wine stores. I doubt I'm the only one. If you decide to focus on a particular vineyard, let me know and I'll do my best to support your demand.