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Cabbage stuffed with chicken in today's NYT

helou Jan 30, 2013 07:05 AM

There's a recipe in today's Times that looks very appealing to me. It's stuffed cabbage with chicken and mushrooms, but without a tomato based sauce. The thing is, it seems pretty dependant on sour cream. Do you think that Tofutti Better than Sour Cream would work?
Or what orhwe substitute do think would do the trick?

(I don't know if this link will work)


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    GilaB RE: helou Jan 30, 2013 07:20 AM

    I would be reluctant to try this. I've used the sour cream replacers when they're a minor element in a recipe, but here, the sour cream is fundamental, and the slightly weird flavor of the substitutes (IMO) would be off-putting.

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      helou RE: GilaB Jan 30, 2013 07:33 AM

      Yes that's how it seems to me too, but I'm always hopeful that someone knows of something that I don't.

      I also thought that I might experiment with thickening the liquid with some xanthan gum (I've never used it, but I've been reading up on it) and maybe a little lemon juice for some tang.

      I'm just so reluctant to go through the many steps of making the chicken mixture and stuffing the cabbage, only to have it turn out weird.

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        weinstein5 RE: helou Jan 30, 2013 01:17 PM

        I have used the Tofuti sour cream in Beef Stroganof with great success -

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      McGyvear RE: helou Feb 5, 2013 05:41 AM

      I made this last night. It was VERY good, but dill is not something I really love. It's too good not to make again, can anyone suggest herbs that would enhance and go with this dish?

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        helou RE: McGyvear Feb 5, 2013 06:47 AM

        I'm glad to hear it was good. I'm planning to make it soon. I'm also not a huge fan of dill so I think I'll cut own the amount I use, but not entirely.
        Did you use real sour cream? Since keeping kosher precludes mixing meat and dairy, that's the challenge for me with this recipe.

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          McGyvear RE: helou Feb 5, 2013 08:03 PM

          Yes, I did use real sour cream. I don't know what the answer for you would be..... sorry. I've decided that it is so unusual, but good, that it should be used for a first course (in a small amount) with something else following....

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          asf78 RE: McGyvear Feb 6, 2013 10:48 AM

          For an herb other than dill, I might try thyme, tarragon, or even parsley. The latter would add more of a "green" taste, I think, the others would probably be more "herby" and a bit lighter.

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            McGyvear RE: asf78 Feb 6, 2013 07:40 PM

            Thanks! I think that sounds very good!

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              ahuva RE: McGyvear Feb 7, 2013 08:19 PM

              please keep us updated on the parve sour cream -

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          helou RE: helou Feb 11, 2013 02:48 PM

          So I made this yesterday. The pareve sour cream was fine - there wasn't that much of it; it just made the liquid a little thicker and more "interesting looking," if that makes any sense. I have no idea how real sour cream would have been different.

          All in all, though, I found the results a little disappointing. There was nothing wrong with it, and my husband liked and ate it.

          It was just too bland for all the work that went into it. I suspect it might taste a lot better with beef rather than the white meat chicken (and a little turkey) the recipe calls for.

          I also tend to under-salt when I'm cooking because I always feel that kashered meat is already salty, but maybe I'm wrong. In this case I think the dish would have benefited from significantly more salt in the chicken filling mixture. I had lots of delicious onions, garlic, and mushrooms in it, but it was just OK.

          I'll probably try it again, but definitely with beef, or chicken dark meat rather than white.

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            DeisCane RE: helou Feb 12, 2013 06:04 AM

            Replace it with ground dark turkey and it will be miles better.

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              helou RE: DeisCane Feb 12, 2013 03:19 PM

              That's a good suggestion. Thanks. I'll try it.

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            dsbcook RE: helou Mar 3, 2013 04:41 AM

            I needed this recipe parve, as well. Forget the sour cream altogether and focus on improving the stuffing. I halved the recipe, but you can figure out the proportions easily. Use shitake mushrooms for better flavor, as well good dry wine (kosher quality wine is easier to come by these days)

            Sauté one leek and one shallot in olive oil. Don't brown. Remove from pan and quickly sauté pressed or mashed 1-3 garlic cloves. Remove from pan and add chopped mushrooms. Generously salt with Kosher salt. When the mushrooms have softened, remove and combine with the other sautéed ingredients. Let cool. Chop, don't process the ingredients. Add half pound ground chicken, unflavored bread crumbs,(use your judgment, but it should be like meatloaf consistency) and white pepper. Refrigerate.

            Return to the recipe. Sweat a half onion the add cabbage slices. Proceed with rest of instructions. If you insist on some kind of sauce, use a deeper pot and cook in more wine and broth. The result was wonderful and need not be limited to kosher cooking. Also, despite the changes, very easy to make.

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              dsbcook RE: helou Mar 3, 2013 04:43 AM

              got rid of the dill, too.

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