They don't know where to shop or eat ! ! !

[KaimukiMan]

The following is an excerpt from an interview of Scott Caan, the Danno character on Hawaii 5-0 by Chelsea Handler:

Caan, who grew up surfing in Malibu, Calif., said surfing in Hawaii is "like survival" and only likes the islands for about six days at a time... Words that left a bad taste in many people's mouths.

Chelsea Handler: "I know it's slow and the food isn't great..."

Scott Caan: "It sucks."

[Bellachefa]

Well it is late night and time to goof around. I thought he forgot he was Scott Caan and showed up in character. Or at least that's the story I'd go with if I was him.

His character recently basically said the exact same thing.

[ladybugthepug]

I heard Scott LOVES the Cajun Littles at Cheesecake Factory in Waikiki......allegidly.

[KaimukiMan]

Good to know. And he should know there are 32 Cheesecake Factory restaurants in California, about half of them in the greater LA area.

yes, yes - last month's news, get over it already. wonder how many servers have been spitting in his food in the last month or so? please note, i'm not advocating it - just speculating.

[Bill Hunt]

And about half that many in AZ. Why go with what one can get at myriad locations, "back home," when there is good food locally?

OTOH, I have had the same argument on a half-dozen boards, where people want to do Morton's in New Orleans. I am out of ideas.

Hunt

[Clinton]

Kinda reminds me of the old wrestling days in the 60s with Ripper Collins doing all that for show. Nothing like riling up the natives and making them tune in which in turn drove up ratings? Who cares if the man doesn't care what we eat? Let him eat his hamburger and fries but just as long as he keeps spending his money and keep Hawaii green...oh, and then go home!

[Bill Hunt]

Well, maybe some (present company excluded), some from CA have a jaundiced view of the world, and even culinary experiences.

I do not know about Mr. Caan, but suspect that he might well be more Hollywood, that Hawai`ian. Such is life.

Sorry that he does not like dining in Hawai`i, but that might mean more table availability to me, to you, and to those, who respect and deserve it?

Not sure who Chelsea Handler is, but has s/he ever dined in Hawai`i? Are they "local," or in maybe New York City - think about the salsa ad, "New York City?????"

Hunt

[hill food]

Hunt - you are aware of his paternity, right? I have never met the man, but having met a few contemporaries, there's a, umm, sense of 'entitlement' among some.

[Bill Hunt]

No. Until the new "Hawai`i Five-O," I had never heard of him.

I have never met with, or dined with, any member of that cast, so cannot comment, beyond reflecting on what they might say.

I am just out of touch.

Hunt

[hill food]

Hunt - son of James Caan - ipso facto media royalty.

I wasn't referring directly to anyone on that cast, or even actors, but the offspring of highly successful producers and directors, et al, who generally 'fly under the radar' to the general public.

[KaimukiMan]

This whole time I thought it must be difficult for him to pretend to dislike Hawaii so much with the character he plays. Come to find out he's not acting at all.

[hill food]

it might be an odd PR tactic regarding the current character. It would make the 'Danno' more believable if the actor is thought to look down on possibly the bubbliest melting pot the US has to offer.

[KaimukiMan]

you are far more charitable in spirit than I am Hill. I'm pretty much convinced he's just stuck with a mainland attitude. I'm sure you are familiar with the local term for that.

[latindancer]

Scott Caan could use a little reality check when it comes to the *real* Hawaii 5-0. Jack Lord, a mainlander for much of his life...moved to Honolulu while filming Hawaii 5-0. He came to love and live the Island life. He loved the food, the people, the weather, the culture. So much that he passed away in the place he loved so dearly in Honolulu, in Kahala.
Eh...Scott Caan. Really, who cares what he thinkgs? Another one who takes something so beautiful and pure for granted.

[hill food]

K-Man, is Haole (sp varies) still the current term? which I believe translates roughly as 'ghost' and not in a "Casper the Friendly" kind of way.

[KaimukiMan]

yes, hill food.

ha = breath, as in the breath of life
ole = without

white people (even tanned sailors) were so pale the Hawaiians were said to believe they were not alive. the term later came to mean all foreigners, and technically still does. It is most often applied to whites, especially those who seem unable to understand that there are a variety of cultures and traditions around the globe - i.e. the ugly American.

[hill food]

years ago I had a 60's surf-pop record with a song called "Hapahakahaole Hula Girl" best I could figure out, it meant 'crazy white chick'

[kaleokahu]

Without context, kahiko or 'okina, it is difficult to tell the meaning of hapahakahaole. Was the music artist or composer Hawai'ian?

Assuming that it is a word, and further that it breaks down hapa-haka-haole, and taking into account that adjectives are placed *after* the noun they modify, it arguably means "foreign promiscuous half-race" or even "white empty part". And when you consider the figurative and poetic aspects of the language, who knows?

There is a Hapa Haka dance and chant festival, but that use is Maori, I believe. A kapa haka is a Maori performing dance troupe.

Rendered in one word, 'crazy white chick' in Hawai'ian would more likely be kamahinahaolepupule. Try saying that fast 5 times!

Aloha,
Kaleo

I'm betting, like most '60's surf pop, it is entirely made up.

[hill food]

you're probably right, IIRC it was a bunch of SoCal white boys bridging that chronological gap between a quasi-Pacific doo-wop and the Beach Boys.

"foreign promiscuous half-race" I'll believe that (as I chuckle) and I may need to see if I can change some screen names to "white empty part". very existential and bleak. it suits me, I could own that, although I suppose some might get the wrong idea.

[KaimukiMan]

I'm guessing the composer meant kaleokahu's first translation, especially considering it was the 60's. Not a whole lot different than white empty part in some ways. LOL

[kaleokahu]

Hi, KM:

You are right about the root meanings of "ha'ole", but there is kaona there, too. It is a lack of spirit and grace, not complexion, that is at the core of its meaning. Jack Lord was no ha'ole.

Thanks for your tutu's coffeecake recipe.

Aloha,
Kaleo

[KaimukiMan]

mahalo for the clarification kahu
hill food, I know what a haka is (a short pre-battle chant) but I'm not at all sure it doesn't somehow transform when inserted in the middle of a word. Hapa of course is half.

[Bill Hunt]

Oh my gosh, since I am Caucasian, from the Mainland, very pale (my Dermatologist is a busy guy), so I fall into the role of Haole (I have known that for a very long time).

Still, I attempt to be 100% respectful, and anything BUT an "Ugly American." That is not only in Hawai`i, but London, Paris and Rome too. I see it, but try to distance myself very quickly. Still, I am an Haole, and can do nothing about that.

Hunt

[sal_acid]

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[Bill Hunt]

Yes, in the new series (do not recall any history on the original Danno), that character is supposed to be from what, New Jersey?

Other than watching the episodes, when I can, I know zero about everyone, but "The Chairman," Wu Fat.

Hunt

[flylice2x]

I don't think you would see Caan and Handler dining anywhere south of Santa Monica,. Like Hawaii the South Bay area has a wide variety of World foods available...Hawaiian, Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Filipino, Iindian, Thai, Mexican, Cuban., Italian, etc..

You know it's tough when you order teriyaki chicken and the restaurant doesn't have ketchup...

[KaimukiMan]

Are you suggesting he puts soy sauce on his rice as well? Complaining that white rice has no flavor at all?

[flylice2x]

No, complainng that people go to ethnic restaurants and instead of tasting that culture's food they try to make it Haole by putting ketchup on what they order. I had friends that did that, disgusting.
By the way I like shoyu on my rice and even with gravy on it.
Nuuanu YMCA in the 60's, 5 cents for one scoop rice with gravy.

[hill food]

aww, ketchup on everything is what I'd call just trashy or maybe if I'm reading it right what kaleokahu calls kaona (thanks! I learned a new word!) while ketchup does have a place in the world, I too, would reach for the shoyu or gravy (and gravy? hmm) first.

[wabi]

Mr Caan did a lot to endear himself to the folks in Hawaii during that interview.

Idiot.

[sal_acid]

Where is Hawaii 5-0 filmed? Is it a wasteland around there?

[KaimukiMan]

It's filmed all over Oahu, some in town (Honolulu) north shore, west side, windward, central. You never know where you are going to run across them.

[sal_acid]

They ought to be able to find something tasty if they tried.

Maybe you could offer your services as a restaurant wrangler...but then you'd have to deal with them which might be unpleasant from the sound of things.

[hill food]

an old friend who lives on Oahu's North Shore occasionally picks up art department work from them. and while she's a surfer and usually fearless the BIG waves scare her too.

let's be real, 'on set' you're lucky if the craft service table has anything better than bologna and M&M's. commercials have the budget for proper caterers, not TV shows.

(oh and Mr. Caan, your agent has convinced the producers to give you a few minutes while you jam that other foot down the toilet)

[scottca075]

What's Hawaii 5-0?

[KaimukiMan]

good to see you back in the Hawaii Board Scott.

5-O is some rinky dink locally produced show with no home grown talent on it.

[indelibledotink]

and also a classic tv show from before i was born.

[KaimukiMan]

O U C H

[Tripeler]

I would never call it a classic TV show because I never saw Rap Reiplinger on it.

[KaimukiMan]

which brings it back to food in Hawaii

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws70oI3yMBc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz3rub...

ha, we no mo good food! whatevahs

[Bill Hunt]

Now, I have been fortunate to make the acquaintance of many "Aunties," but none like depicted in those skits. Thankfully.

Hunt

[Tripeler]

K'Man, you rock. Those are great links, had never seen the cooking show, but Room Service has to be my favorite Rap Reiplinger sketch.

[macaraca]

Great news...maybe it will discourage more a**holes like them from coming and taking up valuable space from people who like it here and leave more of the great food we have for those who appreciate it.

[kaleokahu]

Danno needs a little taste of malo, hiki no?

[indelibledotink]

loincloth?

[kaleokahu]

Ae, as in Caan can chew my malo. Handler too, but he gets okole with his.

[Bill Hunt]

I feel the same way too. More room for folk, who do appreciate what they have.

We're fortunate, in that we get to dine around the world, and often at "starred" restaurants. Still, we greatly appreciate the foods of Hawai`i, and those, who prepare them.

Hey, let them head back to Hollywood, and dine at Morton's. More room for us.

Hunt

[kathryn]

Maybe they only ate at the Hilton Hawaiian Village.

[indelibledotink]

lol. is lappert's ice cream still there?

and yes, benihana is corny, but the food is ono. i'ma get slammed for that, but i mean...i like it. it's not a hawaii only place, tho.

[kathryn]

Yup, Lappert's is still there.

[Bill Hunt]

Looks like you might have "dodged" the gigs for Benihana, but then I have not eaten there (some Mainland locations, which were just OK, but not in Hawai`i). [Grin]

Hunt