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BrokerTov Jan 23, 2013 03:51 PM

Kosher Wedding venue on a budget w/ outdoor chuppah

any suggestions for a nice place in NY area that has an outdoor chuppah and decent food for under $70/pp? Large wedding, 300-350 and we will not go to Williamsburgh halls or a Satmar yeshiva basement. Thanks!

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    zsero Jan 23, 2013 05:45 PM

    Is your ruling-out of Williamsburg and Satmar limited only to those, or does it extend to similar facilities in Crown Heights, Borough Park, etc.? In other words is it the "haimish" scene that doesn't work for you, or is it just some doctrinal problem with those specific people, and you'd accept the same sort of thing with different people?

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      BrokerTov Jan 23, 2013 05:56 PM

      Hi Zsero - that whole heimish scene incl Boro Park and Crown hts makes me nauseous, and I made my son's wedding at The Continental in Williamsburg and I've been to nice weddings at Ateres Avraham but my daughter wants a nice outdoor chuppah since we are Californians....

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        AdinaA Jan 23, 2013 06:11 PM

        I feel like a spoil sport, I've lived in California too, but you're not in California any more.

        Outdoor weddings in the northeast can be disasters. The heat can be punishing. Guests are not happy when forced to stand outside in the broiling sun thinking - do I ruin my makeup and silk gown with sunscreen or just stand here and endure a painful sunburn?

        A day or two of rain can mean mud - even if you have tents set up the ground under them can be saturated, as in: the wooden dance floor sinks and tilts, beautiful turf turns into a marsh, and mud spurts out from the sides of wooden walkways when you guests step on them. And even if the rain is just a cloudburst - it can hammer on the tent so hard that you can't hear the band.

        I have seen brides in mud-spattered wedding gowns dragged down by soaking wet hems - it isn't pretty.

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          cheesecake17 Jan 23, 2013 06:19 PM

          For those reasons... I avoid outdoor weddings. The few I've been to have always been disastrous
          A beautiful wedding can be had in the NYC area without moving 350 inside and out in weather that can be iffy.

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            BrokerTov Jan 23, 2013 06:30 PM

            thank you!

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            BrokerTov Jan 23, 2013 06:30 PM

            thank you AdinaA, maybe Ateres Avraham is not looking so bad....

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              zsero Jan 23, 2013 09:03 PM

              I don't think Broker Tov is talking outdoor <i>wedding</i>, just a traditional outdoor chuppah, not these hole-in-the-roof affairs that are technically outdoors but feel like indoors, or where the chupah itself is outdoors but the spectators are indoors.

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                zsero Jan 23, 2013 09:05 PM

                Mazel tov. By the way, BrokerTov, I'd appreciate it if you contacted me privately, at zev@sero.name

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                  zsero Mar 18, 2013 06:12 AM

                  BrokerTov, if you're still planning the wedding, could you please email me privately at zev@sero.name?

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            CloggieGirl Jan 23, 2013 05:05 PM

            Crest Hollow. I got married there and really enjoyed it. I had to push sometimes to get things that I wanted which were different from the norm. They know their business and do it well.

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              BrokerTov Jan 23, 2013 05:42 PM

              thanks so much CloggieGirl - they are my #1 choice and I've been to a wedding there, they have just become a little pricey and I want to see what other options are available. Mazel tov to you! and thank you!

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                queenscook Jan 23, 2013 05:50 PM

                One warning about an outdoor chuppah at Crest Hollow . . .
                Crest Hollow's chuppah area was really far from their building. The heat was stifling, truly close to unbearable, and having the shmorg and the chuppah outside was brutal. It meant being outside in the heat for close to 2 1/2 hours, far from restroom facilities, no place to splash some cool water on my face without walking so far that by the time I would have gotten back to the shmorg or chuppah, I'd be all sweated up again. Obviously not a consideration for certain times of the year, but late spring, all of summer, and a lot of the fall are all potential times for very hot days. I don't know how late one can switch from outdoors to indoors, if at all.

                Some elderly and disabled guests had to be shuttled back to the hall itself in a golf cart, but I can't imagine that it was pleasant for them in that heat, even with the ride.

                The full post is here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/736596

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                  BrokerTov Jan 23, 2013 05:57 PM

                  thank you queenscook! all very impt points which us Californians do not think about!

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                    CloggieGirl Jan 23, 2013 06:17 PM

                    They didn't give you an option to shmorg indoors? I've been to weddings there with that.

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                      queenscook Jan 23, 2013 06:35 PM

                      Wasn't my wedding; I was just a guest. But I can't imagine that the simcha was all that comfortable for many of the guests, including some of the elderly relatives of the couple.

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                      rosechicago Mar 17, 2013 10:57 AM

                      Did you find that the music from other weddings got in the way of the simcha since so many weddings are taking place there on the same day?

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                        queenscook Mar 17, 2013 11:53 AM

                        I don't recall noticing that that was an issue.

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