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fldhkybnva Jan 19, 2013 09:52 AM

The thread on fork tines reminded me of the fact that I hate soup spoons. I just find the shape too big and too odd to fit into my mouth comfortably. I get the idea, but it doesn't work for me. Do you use soup spoons?

  1. Candy Mar 27, 2013 12:13 PM

    The round shaped soup spoons are for 3 different dishes. The small round spoon is for bullion or a clear soup that would be served in a bullion cup, the little bowls that have handles on each side. It is also permisable to pick up the bullion cup and to sip from it. These have pretty much gone out of favor. Those little handles get broken off easily.

    Next is the cream soup spoon which is larger and would be served in a deeper bowl, no, picking it up and sipping directly from the bowl is not acceptable.

    The largest is a gumbo spoon.

    The oval bowl soup spoon, just larger than a teaspoon, is usually what one would get with other soups, chunkier etc. A spoon larger than it would be a serving spoon. They were, at one time available in 2 sizes. In some cases there is even a larger spoon known as a rice, casserole, or stuffing spoon. The stuffing spoon is about 12.5"

    The other posters were correct when they told you that the entire spoon is not put in your mouth. You sip from the side of the spoon.

    More on round bowl spoons. I neglected to mention egg spoons. They are one of the smallest round bowl spoons. They are for scooping egg out of the shell of a soft cooked spoon.

    1. law_doc89 Mar 17, 2013 03:19 PM

      I suggest you don't try eating salad with a salad fork and spoon.

      1. law_doc89 Mar 17, 2013 02:59 PM

        what do you mean by "soup spoon? There are the dessert spoons palmed off as "table spoons," but round bullion, cream, chowder, gumbo, and others according to use. Good God, but I'll bet you don't know which way to tip your bowl, either western nor eastern!

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        1. re: law_doc89
          fldhkybnva Mar 17, 2013 03:06 PM

          In my head I had standard restaurant the more circle shaped spoon on the table, the one you'd find in any standard cafeteria or mess hall. Clearly, you're more sophisticated than I am.

        2. Bacardi1 Mar 16, 2013 06:54 PM

          Yes, I use soup spoons.

          You're not supposed to cram the whole spoon into your mouth.

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            ItalianNana Mar 16, 2013 06:43 PM

            FLDHKYBNVA,
            I'm sorry some of the comments felt bad to you. I was raised by wolves and commit so many faux pas the etiquette authors dedicate books to me. My Aunt taught me to eat pea soup "like a lady" when I was in 6th grade. I thought I was ready to teach a charm school class!

            I like soup spoons for "properly" scooping away from me and daintily sipping the contents of broth or cream soup from the side into my patiently waiting mouth. But at home, eating my chunky minestrone I use a spoon that fits into my improper, impatient mouth...oh WAIT that would be what is commonly called a tablespoon! This I accomplish by a rabbit like method that delivers the beans-veggies-ground sausage right where it belongs. Even better for this is the flat bottomed Asian spoon. It's neither proper nor attractive and I don't much care. For years I thought my gregarious, soup-loving husband was odd for requesting a mug and a teaspoon for my hearty soups, which he often enjoys while watching the news. Not odd, merely efficient. He piles a teaspoon high and eats like its a solid, the spoon disappearing into his appreciative mouth. In public we are more civilized. At home, it's all about the food.

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            1. re: ItalianNana
              fldhkybnva Mar 16, 2013 07:49 PM

              Thanks, but of course all opinions are welcome. I am quite the clutz with the flat-bottomed Asian spoon as well

            2. Googs Mar 11, 2013 12:58 PM

              I used to hate all soup spoons save the porcelain spoons found in many Asian restaurants. It's nonreactive, imparts no taste, doesn't loan itself to spillage, and generally of the size that doesn't require a gaping yawn to use it.

              I used to until I was given a soup spoon at a restaurant in Ontario cottage country. I had something in my hand that didn't require the balance of a Cirque du Soleil employee to get soup from bowl to mouth. I was so excited (and we were returning from vacation anyway), we drove 90 minutes to the nearest Ikea and bought the set immediately. Yep, Ikea so the price is student friendly, shall we say. I've been happy ever since.
              http://www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/pro...

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                josephnl Mar 6, 2013 08:19 PM

                OK, I really don't get what the op is saying. If you don't know how to use, or don't like soup spoons, use something else...a teaspoon or whatever. What's the issue??

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                1. re: josephnl
                  fldhkybnva Mar 7, 2013 08:38 AM

                  It's not an issue, I just wondered if anyone else disliked them. I don't see the point as I find a teaspoon works quite well. It was a question of interest - "is it just me?"

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                    Jay F Mar 7, 2013 09:28 AM

                    I paid attention last night as I ate soup to how I actually ate it. First, I used a regular (oval, not very deep) soup spoon, and it seems I go from front to back and lift up a rather full spoon of soup, which I put in my mouth front-first, rather than side-sipping.

                    I tried side-sipping, and it's absolutely unnatural to me. I wonder if slurpers are side-sippers.

                    I don't slurp, won't slurp, consider mouth noise the absolute height of impolitesse (unless you're a mouthbreather, of course). Instead, I put the entire soup spoon in my mouth, then remove the spoon as I swallow.

                    I can't imagine not liking -- or liking, for that matter -- a soup spoon. They simply are. I use them when I eat soup. When I read the original post in this thread was the first time I ever considered whether it was possible for me to dislike a spoon, or how I used said spoon.

                    But now I know for sure I do not dislike the soup spoon at all (except for a particular deformed one I may have mentioned upthread).

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                      josephnl Mar 7, 2013 11:37 AM

                      I think it is. I've never heard anyone make such a complaint before.

                      1. re: josephnl
                        fldhkybnva Mar 7, 2013 11:51 AM

                        Some people don't like a food that you do and can't understand or prefer certain tines on forks (http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/415862). It's not an issue, it's a preference.

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                    jujuthomas Feb 28, 2013 10:34 AM

                    this thread made me very counscious of how I used my soup spoon (and the shape of the spoon) when I ate my chicken noodle soup at lunch! :)

                    1. Breadcrumbs Feb 27, 2013 04:48 PM

                      I love soup and I also love my soup spoons. I inherited a set very similar to the ones in this photo:

                      http://www.antiquesilverspoons.co.uk/...

                      I recently found a stainless set very similar and was quick to scoop them up.

                      Perhaps it was because when I was young, the English silver soup spoons were only brought out for special occasions that I love them so. (otherwise my mother converted to the oval dinner spoon typically found in North American cutlery sets)

                      All that said, I also have, and love, some of the porcelain Asian soup spoons that I use when I'm serving Asian soups ... of course!

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                        emu48 Feb 27, 2013 02:07 AM

                        I prefer Thai soup spoons. They are the same shape as the porcelain Chinese version, except that they're made of stainless steel and are slightly smaller. The better grades cost a couple bucks for a dozen or so. Found in Thai and other Asian grocery stores.

                        1. free sample addict aka Tracy L Feb 25, 2013 08:27 PM

                          I don't like most soup spoons because too much sloshes over after you dip them into soup. I definitely never use a teaspoon, it takes me too long to eat w/ a teaspoon. My preference is Chinese soup spoons. Between work and house guests mine have mysteriously disappear.

                          I have one friend who uses a small ladle. When I was younger I would have been aghast, now I think it's endearing.

                          Lately I have been eating the solids first and drinking the broth, For other soups I wait til it cools off and drink it if I am at a casual place or home.

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                          1. re: free sample addict aka Tracy L
                            Bill Hunt Feb 26, 2013 05:56 PM

                            A well-designed, proper soup spoon should be used in this manner.

                            Dip into soup from near to far.
                            Do not fill the bowl to overflowing.
                            Draw to mouth, and sip from the side.

                            Now, an improperly designed soup spoon is a task, and should not be used.

                            Hunt

                            1. re: Bill Hunt
                              fldhkybnva Feb 26, 2013 06:14 PM

                              I completely understand the intent of the idea. It works for some, doesn't work for me. My regular spoon works fine and I can use it like every other spoon. My mom hates soup without a soup spoon and I hate it with so to each his/her own I guess. In public, I will just use a soup spoon if that's all I am offered, no use to request something different but at home, regular spoon it is.

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                                Bill Hunt Feb 26, 2013 07:48 PM

                                I think that it might well depend on THE soup spoon. Some are useless utensils, where others are things of beauty.

                                Hunt

                              2. re: Bill Hunt
                                free sample addict aka Tracy L Feb 26, 2013 07:28 PM

                                Youtube:
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APabrq...

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                                  fldhkybnva Feb 26, 2013 08:26 PM

                                  I get it

                                2. re: Bill Hunt
                                  sunshine842 Feb 26, 2013 10:45 PM

                                  in the UK and US, Hunt. On mainland Europe, you sip from the tip of the spoon.

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                                    Bill Hunt Feb 27, 2013 06:52 PM

                                    Sorry, but in the US, you sip from the side of a soup spoon.

                                    Hunt

                                    1. re: sunshine842
                                      Bill Hunt Feb 27, 2013 07:07 PM

                                      I also just pulled my notes from some years ago, concerning soup spoons in the UK.

                                      My wife was receiving an appointment from Her Magesty, Queen Elizabeth, and the event culminated with a formal dinner. As that was our first visit to the UK, and as it was a big deal, at least for us, we hired a Protocol Instructor, whose father had been Ambassador to Great Britain. I needed this more than my wife did, as she had adopted a Euro-style with her utensils, already, where I had not.

                                      For the soup spoon, the instructions are the same, as for the US - "fill the bowl of the spoon partially, in a motion going away from the diner, then with the spoon perpendicular to the center line of the diner, it will be drawn straight toward the lips, and one will sip from the side." The spoon is not turned 90 degrees, to sip from the tip.

                                      Now, maybe things have changed, since the 1990's?

                                      Hunt

                                      1. re: Bill Hunt
                                        sunshine842 Feb 27, 2013 11:11 PM

                                        not unless the Queen is suddenly no longer from the UK, as I mentioned above.

                                3. Bill Hunt Feb 25, 2013 08:06 PM

                                  For me, it depends 100% on the design of the soup spoon. Some are perfect, while others are not so good.

                                  Hunt

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                                    jujuthomas Feb 27, 2013 10:06 AM

                                    +1. I use the soup spoons in my tableware set more than the tea spoons. In other sets I've owned the soup spoons are too round, too deep, too something... :)

                                    1. re: jujuthomas
                                      Bill Hunt Feb 27, 2013 06:52 PM

                                      I am with you. The design of the soup spoon is very important.

                                      When we're shopping for flatware, we look at all of the ergonomics, possible. Some are quite lovely, and I'd buy them, just for their art - until one considers that they will actually be used. Form should follow function, as Buckey Fuller stated decades ago.

                                      We also judge down on dinnerware, that is not as functional, as beautiful, when dining out. Some make a great presentation, but that is where the value stops. They can be dreadful to eat from, especially with utensils. Same for wine stemware - a 2' tall, hand-blown flute might look great, until one tries to use it.

                                      Hunt

                                      1. re: Bill Hunt
                                        hill food Feb 27, 2013 09:33 PM

                                        sorry to be a wet blanket, but...

                                        while Bucky was of the school "form=function", it's often attributed to Mies van der Rohe (but he stole a lot of quotes) and it traces farther back. the earliest I've seen it directly expressed was by Adolf Loos who proclaimed "Ornament is Crime" although, once while he had hand-embroidered bedroom slippers for a client, on a later follow-up visit excoriated the client for wearing them outside of the bedroom. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Loos

                                        although I suppose one might interpret the sentiment behind the sensibilities of Joseph Paxton (Crystal Palace) and those before as such.

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                                          masha Feb 28, 2013 05:23 PM

                                          My understanding is that it is generally attributed to Louis Sullivan, (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Form_fol...) for at least popularizing the phrase, if not coining it

                                          Mies is typically credited with the closely aligned aphorism that "less is more."

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                                            hill food Feb 28, 2013 10:30 PM

                                            I have a hunch Mies swiped that one too. he also claimed "god is in the details" and that goes back farther than the Renaissance. I'll believe you on Sullivan, it's hard today to see that for its time, his work was indeed a direct expression of the structure.

                                          2. re: hill food
                                            Bill Hunt Mar 1, 2013 07:42 PM

                                            Nothing wrong with taking a great concept, and adapting it to the times.

                                            Hunt

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                                              hill food Mar 1, 2013 10:06 PM

                                              OK as long we don't start analyzing Fibonacci diagrams in regards to DNA strands as represented in pasta. or the structure of a honeycomb. 'K?

                                              1. re: hill food
                                                Bill Hunt Mar 2, 2013 06:23 PM

                                                Heck, being a bumpkin from Mississippi, who knew that pasta had DNA?

                                                Gotta' bow to you.

                                                Hunt

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                                            fldhkybnva Feb 28, 2013 05:15 PM

                                            Perhaps this is my problem, I've only encountered 1 maybe 2 types of soup spoons which seem to be minor variations on each other.

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                                        flamale863 Feb 25, 2013 01:15 PM

                                        Soup spoons are a pet peeve of mine...They are usually TOO SMALL for my taste...barely distinguishable from teaspoons at times...Having said that..I dont like the "round" cream soup style spoon...it just feels unatural especially if the bowl of the spoon is too deep...I like the elongated oval soup spoons that have a gradual slope into the bowl of the spoon...Thats alot about spoons! but wait,theres more!! I "prefer" sterling but at least silver plate spoons...real silver dinnerware has a totally different feel on your lips when you eat with it...its like satin...Genearally speaking,real silver is more carefully made and has a balance to it that stainless steel often does not and the feel of that utensil in your hand heightens your dining experince...so drag that set of silver or silver plate out of the china cabinet and polish it up and USE IT...The more you use it the less you have to polish it!! And dont wash it in the dishwasher (terrible) Wash and dry it by hand...

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                                        1. re: flamale863
                                          fldhkybnva Feb 25, 2013 03:10 PM

                                          Too small, I've found just the opposite but mostly I'm referring to the round cream soup style spoon. I have been on a soup kick lately and my lovely regular spoons work perfectly even when the soup is pretty hot, I guess I can understand the intended purpose of a soup spoon but just doesn't work for me.

                                        2. shaogo Jan 24, 2013 08:27 PM

                                          Absolutely we use soup spoons. And large ones; "tablespoons" to some.

                                          I think it's the only hospitable way to serve a liquid, which otherwise would take an eternity to eat.

                                          I gotta laugh at someone who's so dainty he/she can't manage anything more than a teaspoon of bouillon, noodle soup nor chowder at a gulp.

                                          Soup spoons can be used neatly and politely.

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                                            hyacinthgirl Jan 25, 2013 06:10 AM

                                            Well, laugh away. I have a small mouth and enjoy tasting my food, not trying to cram in more than I feel comfortable with and having to gulp it down.

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                                            Kontxesi Jan 24, 2013 09:59 AM

                                            I hate them, and only use them when all of the regular spoons are dirty (which is often).

                                            My fiance, however, would rather use a soup spoon than a regular one for whatever he's eating. The smaller one gives you "just enough to piss you off", as he says. He tried to make me buy 22-oz glasses instead of 16-oz ones for the same reason, and even that's small to the cups he likes to use. Grew up eating/drinking really big portions of everything. (He also likes his forks to have nice long tines so he can spear more food in every bite. It's quite silly, really.)

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                                              hyacinthgirl Jan 24, 2013 12:15 PM

                                              Meanwhile I'd use a cocktail fork to eat a steak if I could.

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                                              madeliner Jan 23, 2013 07:05 PM

                                              I love the 2 old soup spoons-they are silver and worn down, but large and deep-I can't find any quite as nice.

                                              1. Kholvaitar Jan 23, 2013 03:41 PM

                                                I use soup spoons. They serve a purpose.
                                                As a matter of fact I have a favorite soup spoon my Grandfather always used that is my "go to" in the drawer when needed.

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                                                  josephnl Jan 23, 2013 01:15 PM

                                                  I much prefer eating soup directly from a ladle. It seems to be just the right size!

                                                  1. hyacinthgirl Jan 22, 2013 10:47 AM

                                                    I hate them. I understand the idea of sipping from the spoon but for me it feels a lot more like slurping, which bothers me. I would much rather have a regular shaped spoon that I can place wholly and securely into my mouth without worrying that I'm dribbling broth down my chin.

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                                                      Midknight Jan 22, 2013 01:38 PM

                                                      +1

                                                      Not to mention, like a few others mentioned above, it's a little difficult to tip/pour/slurp a thick soup like a chowder or beef stew, especially if if has chunks in it.

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                                                        fldhkybnva Jan 22, 2013 03:12 PM

                                                        Again, +1

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                                                      julesrules Jan 22, 2013 06:20 AM

                                                      I like my soup pretty hot, so I personally don't like the big wide flat bowls that soup typically comes in at nicer Euro/Western restaurants. By the time I get to the bottom of the bowl the soup is barely warmish. Especially in a restaurant setting where I should be paying some attention to conversation, friends etc... I get quite focused on my soup instead, trying to eat it while it is hot :) At home I have these narrow, deep soup bowls that actually narrow at the top (sort of rounded hexagon shape), I find that much better.

                                                      1. jrvedivici Jan 22, 2013 04:52 AM

                                                        I think similar to the fork debate about how some people place the fork in their mouth upward and remove the contents into their mouths others take the fork and place it in their mouth "upside down" and remove the contents into their mouth in a downward motion.

                                                        Perhaps you can try the same method with your soup spoon. Instead of the conventional way try flipping it last minute perhaps you will find this method more pleasing.

                                                        Please report back after you have tried this!

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                                                          Sooeygun Jan 22, 2013 06:05 AM

                                                          That's how my brother always ate his ice cream or pudding. He would flip the spoon just as he put it in his mouth. He grew out of it, expect when my mother was watching because it drove her crazy.

                                                        2. fldhkybnva Jan 21, 2013 01:19 PM

                                                          I guess my parents just never taught me how to use a soup spoon correctly though I still don't like the practice of tilting the contents into my mouth. I get the idea and it makes sense with a food which is usually fairly hot but I guess it's just a personal preference.

                                                          1. NonnieMuss Jan 21, 2013 01:13 PM

                                                            I like soup spoons. I don't particularly like to eat soup with regular spoons - especially something chunky.

                                                            I also miss Italian restaurants that would provide a spoon for twirling your pasta. Anyone else like the twirling spoon?

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                                                              Kalivs Jan 23, 2013 06:44 PM

                                                              I still use a fork and spoon for my spaghetti

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                                                                ScubaSteve Jan 23, 2013 09:19 PM

                                                                I don't know anyone that doesn't.

                                                              2. re: NonnieMuss
                                                                shaogo Jan 24, 2013 08:33 PM

                                                                We serve a fork, knife and "soup" spoon when we serve spaghetti or linguine at our restaurant. And we're just a bar with food, not fine dining nor "authentic" Italian dining.

                                                                Should the customer not prefer to wind his/her spaghetti or other pasta using the spoon, it's taken up with the rest of the place-setting and washed. How wasteful could that be?

                                                                Also, I have never, in 30 years of restaurant service, had a customer ask for a smaller spoon for his/her soup. In fact, the opposite is what often happens; the server's lazy and pulls out a teaspoon instead of a soup spoon, which results in a management complaint...

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                                                                mexivilla Jan 20, 2013 05:05 AM

                                                                Soup spoons are essential for certain kinds of soups such as vegetable, chicken noodle and Scotch broth. But for the soups that are creams, consomme or broths I find it much more convenient to serve them in a cup or mug.
                                                                Of course maybe I'm the only one who dribbles with the liquidy soups.

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                                                                  sunshine842 Jan 20, 2013 05:33 AM

                                                                  but that's highly unlikely at a restaurant or as a guest...unless you're on very familiar terms with the hosts.

                                                                2. mudcat Jan 20, 2013 03:50 AM

                                                                  Yes. My focus is always on the soup not the spoon.

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                                                                    Steve Jan 20, 2013 03:26 AM

                                                                    How in the world does someone put an entire tablespoonful of hot soup in their mouth? Even if you could fit it in their, wouldn't you burn yourself?

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                                                                      mwhitmore Jan 23, 2013 10:34 AM

                                                                      But you will still burn your mouth sipping from the side of the spoon, if the soup is too hot. Believe me, I know this from experience! I am apparently more sensitive than most people, because I can burn myself on the same soup that others are eating happily. Yes, getting the soup to the correct temperature _for_you_ , without burning your mouth in the process, is a major problem. And the reason I usually avoid soup.

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                                                                        liveloveat34 Jan 23, 2013 04:01 PM

                                                                        i love my soups scalding hot, the only way i really enjoy them...i ether have built an intolerance to heat in my mouth...or it's in my korean genes :-)

                                                                      2. LizGW Jan 19, 2013 06:11 PM

                                                                        I don't use soup spoons for eating. I prefer teaspoons for soup and cereal.

                                                                        1. Jay F Jan 19, 2013 06:04 PM

                                                                          I'm going to be watching people eat soup now everywhere I go for I can't say how long.

                                                                          It's like the way I'm helpless to not check out everyone's eyeglasses. It's the first thing I see when I look at a person, mainly because eyewear got so atrocious-looking sometime during the last decade.

                                                                          1. tcamp Jan 19, 2013 05:40 PM

                                                                            Yes, I use them all the time. For soup but also for scooping things out of jars as well as using them as serving spoons for small dishes at the dining table.

                                                                            As others have mentioned, when they are functioning as serving spoons, I don't shove the whole thing in my mouth but tilt it to "pour" soup in. Being a larger, flatter vessel, the soup cools a bit while in the soup spoon and that is good because I serve my soups hot, usually.

                                                                            1. bagelman01 Jan 19, 2013 01:46 PM

                                                                              Yes, I use soup spoons for soup.

                                                                              BUT>>>>there are shapes and sizes of soup spoons for specific types of soup. If you find the large oval soup spoon to be too large, then try a smaller round cream soup spoon.

                                                                              Also, the shape of the spoon makes it easier to eat from different shaped soup bowls and plates. A large flat bowled oval soup spoon is perfect for eating a broth from a shallow soup plate, while a cream soup spoon is great for eating a cream of mushroom soup from a cup or mug.

                                                                              I have many flatware sets. My 'holiday sterling' service has a 12 piece place setting with 3 different soup spoons.

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                                                                                mwhitmore Jan 19, 2013 11:16 AM

                                                                                Agree. I do like the asian spoons, off-white , oblong, with a flat bottom (can anyone post a pic?), which can also serve for single-bite appetizers. Fit quite nicely in my mouth, and do not have the thermal properties of metal.

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                                                                                  fldhkybnva Jan 19, 2013 12:44 PM

                                                                                  Oh, those are great!

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                                                                                    vil Jan 19, 2013 05:51 PM

                                                                                    I use those spoons as well as the traditional ones at home, and I also actually prefer using the porcelain ones, especially when no one is looking (because they do not match the rest of the dinnerware unless I am eating Asian style!)

                                                                                    The porcelain/ceramic spoons do not burn my lips like the metal ones do, and the very slightly pointed shape and deeper bowl seem to make it easier to get the soup into the mouth without spilling.

                                                                                     
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                                                                                      paulj Jan 19, 2013 06:19 PM

                                                                                      These are my 2nd favorite for soup. First preference is a squared off melamine spoon
                                                                                      http://www.scobiesdirect.com/ItemInfo...
                                                                                      It's a handy shape both for cooking and eating soup, larger volume than a teaspoon, but not as wide as a soup spoon.

                                                                                      It is also a good design for skimming fat.

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                                                                                        pine time Feb 26, 2013 01:41 PM

                                                                                        The porcelain Chinese spoons are just so very awkward--watch the judges on The Taste--even experienced "eaters" look clunky using those things!

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                                                                                          ScubaSteve Feb 26, 2013 09:14 PM

                                                                                          Are they incorrectly putting the side of the spoon to their lips?

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                                                                                            gnomatic Feb 26, 2013 11:54 PM

                                                                                            That's because people started using these spoons as mini dishes for bite size foods.

                                                                                            These are suppose to be use for soups, and you are suppose to sip from the side of the spoon.

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                                                                                          Sarah Jan 19, 2013 06:26 PM

                                                                                          how can you cram one of those in your mouth? I thought you were supposed to sip from the side, as everyone I know does...

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                                                                                            paulj Jan 19, 2013 07:20 PM

                                                                                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty6qHd...
                                                                                            using chop sticks and Chinese spoon

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                                                                                              ScubaSteve Jan 22, 2013 12:34 PM

                                                                                              From the side? That usually makes a mess. My family and I sip from the front as the girl in the video below does.

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                                                                                              vttp926 Jan 23, 2013 03:57 PM

                                                                                              This is the only soup spoon I have ever known. So I know for sure I was never taught the American/English way with those soup spoons. And one time when I was living with other Americans, they preferred those spoons for their soup over any other spoon in the house.

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                                                                                                Jelly71 Feb 28, 2013 10:58 AM

                                                                                                Those are what I thought the original post was referring to and I was really confused by all the hate. Those spoons are the best! I would never dream of using another spoon to eat soup at home. And I can't remember the last time I ordered soup in a non-Asian restaurant, so flatware soup spoons aren't even on my radar.

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                                                                                                GH1618 Jan 19, 2013 11:06 AM

                                                                                                There are different shapes for soupspoons, and the larger spoon included in most common place settings is not the best shape, because it is not specifically for soup. Have you tried the ones with a rounder shape?

                                                                                                http://www.chefscatalog.com/product/2...

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                                                                                                  fldhkybnva Jan 19, 2013 12:44 PM

                                                                                                  Yea, actually I feel like I've seen those more than the others and find them just as awkward.

                                                                                                2. Jay F Jan 19, 2013 10:14 AM

                                                                                                  I have always preferred the soup spoon. In my current flatware, knifeforkspoon by Jasper Morrison, it is called the dinner spoon. I like it.

                                                                                                  I was going to buy another set of flatware, Tiago, by Thomas O'Brien, but the soup spoon was unusable, in just such a way as the OP describes. The bowl is conspicuously deep (the edge hit the roof of my mouth), and shaped in such a way (sides so flat they're literally parallel to each other) I couldn't get it in my mouth comfortably.

                                                                                                  My grandmother made sure I had proper table manners, and she never mentioned sipping from the side.

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                                                                                                  1. re: Jay F
                                                                                                    KaimukiMan Jan 19, 2013 01:45 PM

                                                                                                    dip the soup from the far side of the bowl, lift to your lips and sip from the rim of the spoon.

                                                                                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APabrq...

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                                                                                                      jmcarthur8 Jan 22, 2013 02:07 PM

                                                                                                      DH sometimes starts out eating his soup that way (but gives up after a few spoonsful), which just seems counter-intuitive to me. Why must I spoon it away from me when my mouth is the direction I want to aim for?
                                                                                                      Table manners are a wonderful thing, but sometimes these etiquette rules are just plain silly.

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                                                                                                        sunshine842 Jan 23, 2013 07:21 AM

                                                                                                        not counter-intuitive at all. You spoon away from you so that any drips waiting to happen, happen over the bowl, and not down your chin (or your clothes)

                                                                                                        1. re: sunshine842
                                                                                                          jmcarthur8 Jan 23, 2013 03:26 PM

                                                                                                          I thought about that, too, sunshine, and it does make sense....but it's just so awkward!

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                                                                                                            sunshine842 Jan 23, 2013 11:07 PM

                                                                                                            not when that's the way you were taught, or the way to which you've become accustomed.

                                                                                                    2. re: Jay F
                                                                                                      hill food Feb 27, 2013 12:40 AM

                                                                                                      wow JayF - Jasper Morrison is one of my very favorite industrial designers, there's exactly zero ego in his work (unlike a certain Philippe S.). I've been watching his output for about 15 years now.

                                                                                                      that said, soup spoons really only work for clear and strained broth. no solids.

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                                                                                                        Jay F Feb 27, 2013 12:50 AM

                                                                                                        What do you use instead of a soup spoon? (Except for that Tiago soup spoon, I've never had a single issue with a single soup spoons in my life.)

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                                                                                                          hill food Feb 27, 2013 01:40 AM

                                                                                                          I suppose I was replying more to those who feel the need to jam the whole spoon into their mouths, which is not needed for broth and being the minimalist I am (please ref the J. Morrison appreciation above. god I love his torsion box chair from around 1990 or so http://www.bonluxat.com/a/Jasper_Morr...)

                                                                                                          for eating, a smaller delivery vehicle is preferable for 'chunky' soups than a bowl-ish spoon.

                                                                                                          1. re: hill food
                                                                                                            Jay F Feb 27, 2013 06:11 AM

                                                                                                            That's a nice looking chair, but just having the one bar across the top to rest your back on, well, it looks as if it might be uncomfortable.

                                                                                                            The Jasper Morrison knifeforkspoon spoons come in five sizes (in descending order): table, dessert, tea, coffee, mocha. The set comes with the table (7.75") and coffee spoons (5"). I use the table spoon for soup. I ought to buy the dessert spoon (6.75"), too.

                                                                                                            The handles are thin compared to what you're probably used to on other flatware--or let's say they're more minimal than the handles on most flatware.

                                                                                                            http://www.fitzsu.com/flatware/alessi...

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                                                                                                              hill food Feb 27, 2013 04:20 PM

                                                                                                              I have a hunch it wasn't designed for lounging or a bad posture requiring back support.

                                                                                                              I like small handles, at my Mother's (where there are several co-mingled sets of daily ware) I have been known to re-set my place when the flatware has been found un-acceptable.

                                                                                                              1. re: hill food
                                                                                                                Jay F Feb 27, 2013 04:28 PM

                                                                                                                You should probably try knifeforkspoon. I find the spoons a particular joy to use, but I like the entire set. I chose the thinner, one-piece knife after buying one of each. It really does feel better in my hand.

                                                                                                                fitzsu.com is the most dependable retailer. eBay and amazon have a seller or sellers who want 4x the MSRP for each piece. Avoid entirely.

                                                                                                                Also, there's a restaurant here that seats you in Jasper Morrison's Air chair. http://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/cor...

                                                                                                        2. re: hill food
                                                                                                          law_doc89 Mar 17, 2013 03:16 PM

                                                                                                          And I thought you were speaking of Jim Morrison. I think he would condemn plastic sporks.

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                                                                                                            hill food Mar 17, 2013 06:23 PM

                                                                                                            I sort of wonder if Jim Morrison ever actually ate any solid foods.

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                                                                                                              law_doc89 Mar 17, 2013 06:27 PM

                                                                                                              That is a good question. He inhaled many.

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                                                                                                        Querencia Jan 19, 2013 10:10 AM

                                                                                                        You're not meant to put the entire bowl of a soup spoon in your mouth. Hold it in front of your mouth, tip it slightly toward you, and consume the soup that way.

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                                                                                                          fldhkybnva Jan 19, 2013 10:49 AM

                                                                                                          My mom mentioned this and I still find it frustrating for some reason.

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                                                                                                            sunshine842 Jan 19, 2013 12:55 PM

                                                                                                            or in Europe -- they eat soup from the tip of the spoon, rather than the side. (so you're basically pouring the soup into your mouth from the tip)

                                                                                                            You're not supposed to put the whole thing in your mouth.

                                                                                                            1. re: sunshine842
                                                                                                              vil Jan 19, 2013 05:30 PM

                                                                                                              I had to refrain from spewing the hot lemon and honey all over my laptop while reading this, because of the imagery of someone putting a whole soup spoon into his mouth!

                                                                                                              I didn't know that the way I am used to eating my soup is the European way.

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                                                                                                                Harters Feb 28, 2013 09:00 AM

                                                                                                                That might be the part of Europe that isnt the UK, sunshine.

                                                                                                                Here, we have round-bowl soup spoons and sip from the side. At least, that is what "proper etiquette" requires. But, then, we all know that most folk don't follow proper etiquette these days.

                                                                                                                1. re: Harters
                                                                                                                  sunshine842 Feb 28, 2013 09:34 AM

                                                                                                                  Yes, mainland, continental Europe sips their soup from the tip of the spoon.

                                                                                                                  1. re: sunshine842
                                                                                                                    Bill Hunt Mar 1, 2013 07:41 PM

                                                                                                                    Maybe, had we been dining with François Hollande, the instructions would have been different?

                                                                                                                    Hunt

                                                                                                                    1. re: Bill Hunt
                                                                                                                      sunshine842 Mar 2, 2013 01:12 AM

                                                                                                                      Yes, it would have.

                                                                                                                      This video is intended as a cultural (and table etiquette) lesson (it's all in French), but you can understand the gist, and of the point specifically raised about soup:

                                                                                                                      http://www.wat.tv/video/do-you-spik-a...

                                                                                                                      The soup segment starts at 1:30.

                                                                                                                      1. re: sunshine842
                                                                                                                        Bill Hunt Mar 2, 2013 06:22 PM

                                                                                                                        Definitely cute, but then our hostess, Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth, also did the scoop away, and sip from the side. Who would I be, to correct her?

                                                                                                                        Hunt

                                                                                                                        1. re: Bill Hunt
                                                                                                                          sunshine842 Mar 3, 2013 01:08 AM

                                                                                                                          Yes, because the English sip from the side of the spoon. I have no idea why you would correct her when she's doing it in the manner accepted as proper.

                                                                                                                          1. re: sunshine842
                                                                                                                            Bill Hunt Mar 4, 2013 08:03 PM

                                                                                                                            Based on our Protocol Instructor, plus the "cues" from our hostess, I felt that what I had always been taught was OK.

                                                                                                                            Maybe the Italians look at me sideways, or perhaps the French, but that is what I had always been taught, and had it reinforced, prior to that particular visit to the UK.

                                                                                                                            Now, I still can only do "Euro" utensils to a certain degree. My wife can swap between UK/US, and never miss a beat, but I can only do so much.

                                                                                                                            Same for chopsticks - she is delicate, very traditional, but struggles with tiny items. I am clumsy, laughable to any Asian, who knows chopsticks, but can pick up large items, or individual rice grains. Such is my life.

                                                                                                                            Hunt

                                                                                                                            PS - All the best to Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth, on her recent health issues.

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                                                                                                                              sunshine842 Mar 5, 2013 12:09 AM

                                                                                                                              the easiest thing to do is just hesitate for a moment and see what others are doing around you. Keep it subtle -- no staring or obvious gawking -- but it's pretty easy to fall back on observation if you're wondering which fork to use, whether to sip from the side or the tip of the spoon, or whether you're supposed to be drinking red or white with this course.

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                                                                                                                                Bill Hunt Mar 5, 2013 06:35 PM

                                                                                                                                Remember, I am but a "daft Yank," so "gawking" sort of comes with the territory... [Grin]

                                                                                                                                Now, when it comes to wines with dinner courses, I am a bit of an iconoclast. Just last week, I bribed our server to get me an additional, clean glass, as I wanted both the red, and the white.

                                                                                                                                When dining out, it is not at all uncommon for us to have maybe 8 wine glasses in front of us - though that is seldom at a "State Dinner." There are maybe a dozen restaurants, both in the UK and the US, that seat us at a 6 - 8-top, due to our wine glasses.

                                                                                                                                Hunt

                                                                                                                                1. re: Bill Hunt
                                                                                                                                  Jay F Mar 5, 2013 08:35 PM

                                                                                                                                  <Remember, I am but a "daft Yank,">

                                                                                                                                  I thought you were from Mississippi.

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                                                                                                                                    sunshine842 Mar 5, 2013 10:31 PM

                                                                                                                                    when you're outside the US, you're a Yankee, no matter where you were born.

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                                                                                                                                      hill food Mar 6, 2013 01:25 AM

                                                                                                                                      and IIRC he lives in AZ these days, wasn't even a state back when those lines were drawn...

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                                                                                                                                        Bill Hunt Mar 6, 2013 07:13 PM

                                                                                                                                        That is correct. I think that I have living relatives, who are older than the State of Arizona. I know that my wife's major hospital is about 18 years older, than AZ is.

                                                                                                                                        By the time that we moved to AZ, they WERE a state, but not for THAT long.

                                                                                                                                        Coming from New Orleans, where history goes way back (but is very young by UK/Euro standards), we were amazed to read the history. It started in about 1960! I mean, how much history is THAT?

                                                                                                                                        Even in Denver, the "history" went back to the 1860's!

                                                                                                                                        Now, as my mom was DAR, there IS some history in the family, in the US. Most of the rest were hanged in UK/Euro, before they fled to the US. Luckily, there were few extradition laws, way back then, or my family would likely have just disappeared on the gallows...

                                                                                                                                        Hunt

                                                                                                                                    2. re: Jay F
                                                                                                                                      Bill Hunt Mar 6, 2013 07:05 PM

                                                                                                                                      OK, I am but a "daft, daft Yank" then... with US English as my "second language."

                                                                                                                                      Hunt

                                                                                                                  2. re: sunshine842
                                                                                                                    maria lorraine Mar 8, 2013 12:42 AM

                                                                                                                    <<You're not supposed to put the whole thing in your mouth.>>

                                                                                                                    Agreed. The spoon barely enters your mouth, mainly resting on your lower lip. The size is to deliver an appropriate amount of liquid in each bite.

                                                                                                                    I adore soup spoons, and all my sterling place settings: salad forks, seafood forks, serving utensils. They're so lovely to use on a daily basis with wonderful food.

                                                                                                                    Please research the difference in shape between cream spoons, gumbo spoons and soup spoons. The cream and gumbo spoons are smaller and rounder in shape, almost like a small circle. The oval shape of a soup spoon varies in size.

                                                                                                                    In any case, if your dislike of soup spoons is because they're too large to go into your mouth, they're not supposed to! But it's your choice to use soup spoons or not.

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                                                                                                                      josephnl Mar 8, 2013 08:18 AM

                                                                                                                      Perfectly stated! I can't believe all the discussion this thread has elicited!

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                                                                                                                        fldhkybnva Mar 8, 2013 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                        Me neither, I have had many regrets about ever starting it.

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                                                                                                                          hill food Mar 8, 2013 05:51 PM

                                                                                                                          regrets? really? it's been a cool thread. so easy to overlook the small things. as someone who did study industrial design for a while it's interesting to observe how simple tools are actually used.

                                                                                                                          1. re: fldhkybnva
                                                                                                                            Bill Hunt Mar 8, 2013 06:44 PM

                                                                                                                            Please harbor NO regrets.

                                                                                                                            It IS a good thread, though there are some differences of opinions. The discussions have been good, and pretty well focused.

                                                                                                                            No one has called me a four-letter word, at least not yet.

                                                                                                                            I think that it IS a good thread, and one well worth the bandwidth.

                                                                                                                            All diners are not created equal. All "soup spoons" are not created equal. All dining instances are not created equal. All personal preferences are not created equal. Such is life, and the discussion has been enlightening, entertaining, and hopefully useful to all, who read it.

                                                                                                                            Thank you FOR posting,

                                                                                                                            Hunt

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                                                                                                                              fldhkybnva Mar 8, 2013 09:46 PM

                                                                                                                              Yea, I've learned quite a lot about soup spoons. I felt a minor heart twinge with comments which made me feel like 1) a lunatic for not thinking they are clearly the spoon to be used to eat soup and 2) my parents failed to teach me proper etiquette. But, yes I never imagined it would be so extensive and interesting.

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                                                                                                                                Jay F Mar 9, 2013 07:29 AM

                                                                                                                                I have enjoyed this thread. I discovered I eat soup wrong. I think I do it that way, putting nearly the entire spoon in my mouth tip-first, in order to avoid slurping.

                                                                                                                                Nothing is grosser IMO than slurping while you're eating, and I'll bet my grandmother, who taught me table manners, was of the same opinion, though I don't remember specifically being taught how to eat soup.

                                                                                                                                Because of this thread, I learned that the reason I hate one particular soup spoon I have, Tiago by Thomas O'Brien, is because it was made for side-sipping. There is no other way to use this soup spoon. It won't fit in my mouth.

                                                                                                                                Anyway, I would not have known this if it hadn't been for this thread, which I think has been a great success.

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                                                                                                                                  maria lorraine Mar 9, 2013 10:11 PM

                                                                                                                                  Are you saying you must slurp to side-sip? Slurping means you are using suction -- drawing in air noisily -- to vacuum the soup into your mouth. Side-sipping quietly is what you're after. The spoon rests on your lower lip, slightly inside your mouth. Your upper lip pushes the soup into your mouth. Also, you tilt the soup spoon upwards slightly so that gravity aids in transferring the soup from spoon to mouth.

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                                                                                                                                    Jay F Mar 9, 2013 10:21 PM

                                                                                                                                    I'll have to try that, Maria Lorraine. Thanks.

                                                                                                                                    To the slurpers: how do you get the soup into your mouth?

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                                                                                                                                      hill food Mar 10, 2013 12:01 AM

                                                                                                                                      this is why I don't like chunky soups. if we must, then give me a fork or some chopsticks as well.

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                                                                                                                                      pine time Mar 10, 2013 09:46 AM

                                                                                                                                      In training the grandkid, I tried to explain that rather than slurping or sucking in the soup, think of it like pouring the soup into your mouth. That seemed to make sense.

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                                                                                                                                        maria lorraine Mar 11, 2013 02:10 AM

                                                                                                                                        That's simple and clear. Thank you.

                                                                                                                                  2. re: fldhkybnva
                                                                                                                                    Bill Hunt Mar 17, 2013 07:22 PM

                                                                                                                                    Predicated on this thread, while we were dining at Guy Savoy, I observed my wife's handling of the soup spoon on the soup course. Unlike me, she DOES rotate the spoon to sip from the tip. The utensils offered were not round (as several of our sets of flatware has), but oblong. I went from the side, and she rotated to use the tip. I mean, who knew?!?!?

                                                                                                                                    Thanks for the thread,

                                                                                                                                    Hunt

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                                                                                                                                  jujuthomas Mar 11, 2013 12:28 PM

                                                                                                                                  no, no! this has been really interesting! don't be sorry you asked a question. :)

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                                                                                                                            Lmonach Jan 21, 2013 01:23 PM

                                                                                                                            Yes, of course that's how you are supposed to use a soup spoon, I just find that an annoying way to eat soup. How about just use a regular spoon and eat the darn soup? Or use chopsticks for the solids and slurp the rest out of the bowl? These are much simpler and less fussy methods

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                                                                                                                              fldhkybnva Jan 21, 2013 02:14 PM

                                                                                                                              Thank you for voicing my opinion ever so clearly. This is exactly why I dislike them, it seems to make it more complicated than it needs to be and I just want to put the soup into my mouth.

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                                                                                                                                ferret Jan 21, 2013 07:44 PM

                                                                                                                                Yes, because using a spoon as a delivery system is so needlessly complicated.

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                                                                                                                                  fldhkybnva Jan 21, 2013 07:56 PM

                                                                                                                                  Ouch, it's the fact that unlike other eating utensils with a soup spoon I can't just stick the whole thing into my mouth but thanks for your opinion.

                                                                                                                          3. Lmonach Jan 19, 2013 09:56 AM

                                                                                                                            I, and everyone in my family, hate soup spoons - the shape is just annoying and I'm not the type to sip delicately from the side of the too big spoon!

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