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  1. Splendido.

    1. Definitely Splendido. Victor (the chef) is at the top of his game, and that combined with the comfortable ambience and normally flawless service level makes it a great choice for a special dinner. I would let them know when making the reservation that it is for a birthday dinner, just for that extra little bit of attention. As for Cafe Boulud, reviews have been mixed as was my own experience there. It seems to suffer from the typical problems that expensive hotel restaurants often have - inconsistency in both service and food, and an intractable approach to special requests. My suggestion is to wait a few months or more to see if Boulud finds it's mojo - to me it has a lot of work to do to live up to the standards of its New York brethren.

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      1. re: soko

        Agreed ... then there's the Café Boulud decor to consider, which can charitably be called whimsical, uncharitably a bit of a joke ...

        1. re: caviartothegeneral

          what is wrong with the decor? it is a hotel all-day dining room-traditionally heavy with breakfast covers

          1. re: ingloriouseater

            fugly pretentious art.

            1. re: MissBingBing

              Poorly designed, bad tables and chairs and very ordinary food. Servers were very nice but not polished. The art is awful except for the wooden dandelion pieces in the minuscule lobby. Not what we expected from a Four Seasons at all.

      2. Splendido for sure. I wasn't impressed by Cafe Boulud. It was good but nothing I ate from the 3x I ate there has left a lasting impression on me. Splendido on the other hand, the dishes range from "good" to "plates of food I still think about months and months later."

        1. Went to both in the month before Xmas.
          Splendido by a city mile!

          Only other option might be Shoto to try something new.
          Splendido is more 'elegant'. Shoto has more 'energy'. Depends on the preferences of the Birthday Honoree.

          1. I am a pro-Splendido guy as well. However, just to be fair, I find Cafe Boulud's dessert a bit better.

            1. Splendido. All. The. Time. (Or my fave, Scaramouche :) )

              CB was very disappointing - food was standard (although the frozen grapefruit dessert was interesting ans tasty), decor/atmosphere a bit of a joke (as Caviar said) -- in no way does it feel welcoming, comfortable.

              1. Not sure when your birthday is, but mine is coming up so I checked opentable to try to get a reservation at Splendido and there wasn't much available. Then I realized it's winterlicious time. I may still go to Splendido at some point but not interested in visiting any participating restaurants, except maybe for lunch, when winterlicious is on.

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                1. re: TeacherFoodie

                  Scaramouche is our usual special occasion spot but we wanted something different sooooo Splendido it is.

                  Teacherfoodie, I had the exact same concerns re winterlicious but we were assured that this will have no bearing on our evening. I am little skeptical I must admit, but Mr MG made the reservation and he has faith so that's the plan and we'll see what happens.

                  1. re: millygirl

                    Change of plans....

                    Our celebration grew to a table of 4 and unfortunately Splendido was not able to accomodate our requested time so were heading to Scaramouche unless you can talk us in to something better?

                    Just as well really. We'll go another time once Winterlicious is over. Quite frankly I'm a little surprised that they're involved but whatever.

                    1. re: millygirl

                      lol, forgive them for trying to generate additional business during the slowest time of the year so they can pay their bills and staff and such.

                  2. re: TeacherFoodie

                    I wouldn't rely on OpenTable as the sole source of checking if they have availability. Often times restaurants will not put all tables on OpenTable. I imagine with 'licious they probably aren't listing all of their tables there either so they can still have room for their normal customers. Worth a call.

                    I am going to Splendido during 'licious. I am more curious to see how it compares to my tasting menu there. I am going in with low expectations but it is a good way to get some friends together for a night out.

                    1. re: ylsf

                      No worries on either -

                      I don't use Open Table...prefer the old fashioned pick up the phone approach for exactly the reasons you mention ylsf.

                      justxpete, I'm not upset in the least and have no reason to forgive them. I have no issue with them participating and I'm happy that they are full. I will look forward to visiting in the future.

                      I simply wrote this to update my post and if in case someone had other suggestions.

                      1. re: millygirl

                        I would consider Scarpetta. We recently had a 5 course tasting menu there and everything was delicious. I cannot compare it with Scaramouche or Splendido as I have not eaten at these places yet, however it is my favourite meal so far in Toronto.

                        Food, service and ambiance at Scarpetta were all excellent.

                        1. re: TeacherFoodie

                          Headed to Splendido tomorrow night!!! Yay, can't wait.

                          What are the current "not to be missed" dishes???

                          1. re: millygirl

                            I would have any combination of these for apps/intermediaries:

                            Victor’s Foie Gras Parfait
                            Chanterelle, Beech & Maitake Mushroom Salad
                            B.C. Steelhead Trout Tartar
                            Agnolotti
                            Risotto

                            .... and then have the ribeye for two for mains (if you've not had it before).

                            1. re: justxpete

                              What took you so long justxpete :)

                              Yes all of the apps sound wonderful and I esp love tartar.
                              I've had the foie before and remember it to be excellent.

                              thanks

                              1. re: millygirl

                                Millygirl pls report back! Im going next weekend and its been a while for me too. Looking forward to it.

                            2. re: millygirl

                              Funny, I will be there tomorrow night as well. Focusing on 'licious meal this time around but we may add some extras depending on what they have an offer. I think our seating time it limited to 1.5 hr so might not have that much time to try much else besides the 3 courses.

                    2. Splendidly for sure. Cafe Boulud is underwhelming at best. Splendido never fails to deliver.

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                      1. re: Rubyred1

                        I was thinking I should start a new post titled "Our $300 let down" or better yet "Dear Scaramouche Why Did I Ever Doubt You".

                        So we had our Splendido dinner last night and boy oh boy was that an #epicfail. Disappointed and pissed off were the featured items of the evening.

                        It started with our welcome which was alittle awkward. Those that were following the post might know that our reserveration went from 2 to 4 and then back down to 2 when our friends had a funeral to attend in BC. Anyways we're greeted with "now are you 2 or 4 tonight cuz I recall there was a lot of back and forth on this" ha ha. Not a huge deal but I couldn't help to think that in the old days C.D. would have charmed us with something like "I'm sorry your friends aren't able to join you this evening".

                        But the kicker is this - after being ASSURED repeatedly over the phone that Winterlicious would have no ill effect on our birthday dinner celebration we arrive to see that their menu has been paired down to half of what it normally is. I expressed my disappointment to hostess immediately and she went in to kitchen, and came back to say that Chef agreed to make an exception and do the rib eye for 2 for us. Unfortunately the trout tartar that I wanted so much to try was not available. At this point I wanted to walk out - but where else to go on a Saturday night at 8 so we figured stay and make the most of it.

                        The entire meal was just so so at best.

                        The bread, while good, should have come out of the freezer much earlier - it was still stone cold in the middle.

                        Risotto and foie gras app were good, if not excellent. Polenta side was great. Oh and the amuse was fantastic. We should have packed in at that point.

                        The rib eye was very disappointing. Melt in your mouth it was not. Boring, flavourless, and tough in spots. Mr MG and I were very surprised that the kitchen could put something like this out. I meant to ask where the beef came from but honestly, couldn't be bothered.

                        Then the waitress presents a little piece of chocolate with a birthday candle and card, except the line where the chef is supposed to sign is blank. ?? So she takes the card back to the kitchen.

                        WTF, in the old days sh*t like this would not have happened.

                        I told the waitress that they might want to inform patrons ahead of time that the menu has been shortened due to WL which she agreed that they will in future do this. However at no time did management come over to apologize or ask how our meal was.

                        Anyways lesson learned and ya never know unless you give it a try but in future, our special meals will be at Scaramouche where they know how to treat customers right and deliver bang on all the time.

                        1. re: millygirl

                          :( I'm so sorry, MillyGirl. That is terrible disappointment.

                          1. re: millygirl

                            Sorry to hear that!!

                            The 'inconsistency' issue is something I find more and more akin to the Toronto dining scene!! There is no sure thing anymore and one has to keep one's fingers' crossed!

                            ??? Does one really have to know the chef in person in order to guarantee a great meal??! Sigh!! :(

                            1. re: Charles Yu

                              I agree but I really did have much higher expectations of Daisho than what was delivered. I think that, on the whole, you get a better dining experience from the smaller restaurants in Toronto such as Ursa, Woodlot, etc and the ever wonderful Franks Kitchen. The BIG restaurants just don't cut it as much as they used to (except for the Scaramouches and Splendidos who have service and food down to a fine art.

                              1. re: Rubyred1

                                Uhh Rubyred1 read my post above. Splendido did not cut it this time around.

                                1. re: Rubyred1

                                  Totally agree about the small restaurants. The trick is to get to know the owner and chefs. I became friends with the wonderful Harry Barberian and patronized his restaurant for over 25 years. Harry was always gracious and never served a bad steak. I often closed the place, smoking cigars with Harry and the Chef. He'd often bring up a rare bottle from Toronto's best wine cellar to share gratus at my table. I currently have a similar relationship with Jamie Kennedy and Patrick McMurray at Starfish. Large restaurants are impersonal and uneven by their very nature...they invariably fall back on their reputation and ignore the backbone of the small restaurant...the repeat customer.

                                  1. re: TorontoTuna

                                    Love Barberians...first steak experience in T.O. was there in late 80's.

                                2. re: Charles Yu

                                  I wonder that myself Charles!! Honestly that meat was just plain bad.

                                  And what irked me most was that management did not even bother to come offer up an apology regarding the menu cut, particularly after promising us we would not notice any difference.

                                  They didnt even ask how our meal or evening was. But yet the waitress comes by with a cheesy unsigned birthday card.

                                  I cannot believe how low they have sunk since our last visit.

                                  1. re: millygirl

                                    Honestly Milly - this is extremely dis-typical for Splendido. I'd chalk it up to it being their first Winterlicious night ever, despite their insistence that it would not have an impact (not that it will make you feel better). Also, the hostess you're referring to is new, and she may not be quite up to speed as yet.

                                    1. re: justxpete

                                      justxpete there are many negative reviews about Splendido and each one, you seem to have an excuse for them.

                                      I misspoke it was the waitress, not hostess. However it was the management's duty to apologize to us, particularly when they were the ones to promise us that nothing would be different.

                                      Unfortunately at $300 a pop, I don't easily 'chalk' things up.

                                      Again, something like this would never happen at Scaramouche. Guaranteed! They make sure to ask everyone if everything is okay.

                                      I got the distinct impression these guys realized it was not entirely 'splendid at splendido and worse, they just didnt care.

                                      1. re: millygirl

                                        I disagree on all accounts, but you're certainly entitled to your opinion.

                                        I find Sacaramouche to be only better than average (as far as high end restos go) , but mostly geared towards the older crowd. It's classic food done well, with little innovation. I'll take Splendido over Sacaramouche any day, but I've also never experienced the type of food and service you're describing.

                                        1. re: justxpete

                                          Whenever we go to Scaramouche the age group is varied. In fact, they have at least one marriage proposal a week and after 9 it's hopping.

                                          Innovation isn't always a good thing, esp if the execution isn't there. I'd much rather a piece of coconut cream pie than sweet potato ice cream (??)

                                          1. re: millygirl

                                            We've had the very same experience as MillyGirl (minus the proposal). There is an older crowd at 7/7.30, but by the time we are leaving at 10/10.30, I'd say it is a early-30s/mid-40s professional crowd wiht plenty of buzziness in the room.

                                            I've been to Splendido four or five times in the past 2 years and always am underwhelmed by the food, and overwhelmed by the price. It's never really bad, it is never really good there are sometime odd pairings, but it is always meh.

                                            1. re: CocoaChanel

                                              You can say that again Cocoa Chanel. Odd pairings, how about sweet potato ice cream??

                                              The couple beside us order the fish main and there was so much stuff happening on the plate it was difficult to even look at. You could not see the fish for all the other stuff swirled around and on top. It was one disgusting looking mess.

                                              Oh and by the way, you would think at that price point the valet would be complimentary. Ahh no, $16 added to your bill.

                                              1. re: CocoaChanel

                                                Based on reading all these and past postings and taking into account of my personal experiences, I think I can see a pattern developing in how Splendido treats its customers?!!

                                                If one are 'regulars' like justxpete or Estufarian, who actually know the owners Carlo and Victor, then the dining experience almost always guarantee stellar results and products!

                                                However, for non-regular and 'less familiar face' patrons, attitude and behavior of management can be a bit 'overbearing' and the meal 'underwhelming'!

                                                These type of 'discriminatory' pattern unfortunately is a very common thing amongst restaurants nowadays. May be its particularly so for Splendido, due to them being spoiled by rave reviews they have been getting?!

                                                1. re: Charles Yu

                                                  Charles, to your point, we are hardly regulars at Scaramouche - perhaps twice a year with Mr. Vuitton - an anniversary and some other occaision, and I am there another two times a year with friends in the main dining room and perhaps once more in the pasta bar. The reservations are usually under a different name (depending on who is making them),so it is difficult to see the history of bookings, and the service and food are always excellent.

                                                  1. re: Charles Yu

                                                    Charles, your probably right about regulars getting special treatment in some ways however as far as the beef goes, I cannot see how it would be any different or better for a frequent flyer.

                                                    Maybe they know what to avoid though.

                                                    Funny enough, I was talking to a reputable chef just today and he himself told me when he goes to Splendido he sits only at the bar and sticks to appetizers. It seems common knowledge to avoid their mains.

                                                    1. re: Charles Yu

                                                      I think Splendido is currently #1 in voting on the Top Restaurants of TO 2013 thread, Charles, so I find your statement to be absurd. They can't all be regulars.

                                                      1. re: justxpete

                                                        Toyota was voted #1 car of the year until they had all those recalls a couple of years back!!!!! Being voted #1 does not always guarantee perfection?! I'm sure, in the past, even El Bulli slips up on service or some dishes sometimes?!!

                                                        Anyways, If two long standing and trust worthy chowhounders - Millygirl and CocoaChanel voiced similar complaints, there must be at least some truth in what they are saying?! No?!!

                                                        No harm being a bit open minded?!

                                                        1. re: Charles Yu

                                                          Your logic is non-sequitor, Charles. Your statement was that diners like myself and Estufarian are treated differently, and are the only ones that have 'great' experiences. However, fact that others feel the same way and have the same experiences as us (as evident by the voting, and many positive reviews - including Uhockey's, and no, they didn't know who he "is") would indicate that it's un-true, given that they can't all be regulars. And of course, although they may falter on occasion (as I've offered for MG's experience in this thread), they try to treat every customer with the upmost respect and give them the best experience possible.

                                                          I see it every time I'm there, and I know how passionate they are about their food and service - and not everyone is able to comprehend their food, just like I'm not able to comprehend the intricacies of the Melon soup @ Maple Yip, because I'm not familiar with that cuisine as others might be. It's the same thing. If you don't have the abilitity to appreciate innovative, complex food with other than run-of-the-mill flavour combinations and think that complex plating is "messy", then certain places aren't for you - like Per Se, Acadia, Alinea, etc. - the places that will challenge your food knowlege. I'm not saying Splendido and Acadia are on Per Se's and Alinea's level, but they're not far off (in terms of cuisine).

                                                          1. re: justxpete

                                                            I've been to Per Se. Splendido is not even close, IMHO.

                                                            1. re: CocoaChanel

                                                              As have I (as recently as 4 months ago), and I disagree.

                                                              1. re: justxpete

                                                                ok. No issue, every one is entitled to their opinion. That's what keeps this place going :)

                                                                1. re: CocoaChanel

                                                                  I will offer that the things that Per Se does with their vegetable (not vegetarian) tasting menu is unparalleled.

                                                                  1. re: justxpete

                                                                    In a good or bad way, lol

                                                                    ;)

                                                                    1. re: CocoaChanel

                                                                      Oy. Good way. lol.

                                                                      But I will also add - the meal I had there was over $1000 - and that was a tasting menu for two people (with extras & a bit of wine, our anniversary). If Toronto had the same type of regular clientele that NY has access to, I think our restaurants would be producing closer to what they are able to accomplish. You can only charge so much in TO and get away with it, which limits how much effort they are able to put in to their plates.

                                                            2. re: justxpete

                                                              Sorry justxpete! I have met and eaten with Uhockey and I know the Splendido staff knows him personally. At least Carlo and Victor!

                                                              1. re: Charles Yu

                                                                I'm sure they do now, Charles. I wouldn't be surprised. Regardless, that still has no impact.

                                                          2. re: justxpete

                                                            Justpete, that thread is basically a popularity contest. I do think Charles is onto something. I felt like I was treated like a nobody when I dined at Splendido. Some of my friends have never had any service issues at Splendido, but I doubt that Millygirl, CocoaChanel and I are the only ones who have been underwhelmed. I think Millygirl, CocoaChanel and I are in a similar demographic- perhaps our demographic is one that Splendido hasn't made a priority. I think I mentioned last year, that Splendido does seem to be the #1 resto for a lot of male Chowhounds who are active on this Board. I also think Splendido might be more popular with Chowhounds who usually order beef or chicken when given the choice. As a Chowhound who usually orders seafood or duck, when given the choice, Splendido isn't high on my list. I think other kitchens deal with seafood better than Splendido's.

                                                            While I plan to revisit for the tasting menu this year, I'm lowering my service expectations so I won't be disappointed.

                                                            I've only dined at Joso's and Barberian's once, but the staff at both places made me feel especially welcome. I've only dined at Scaramouche and Chiado a few times, and they've made me feel especially welcome, on each visit.

                                                            1. re: prima

                                                              You keep going back to that well, Prima. Truth be told, I was only saying that to be diplomatic at the time. That definitely is not the case, and I probably haven't had the steak there for 6-9 months. They do all their meats well, and not just "beef and chicken".

                                                              But back to your original point, I only feel 'especially welcome' at places I dine at frequently. No restaurant in the city makes me feel especially welcome if I'm not familiar to them, perhaps with the exception of Edulis, and that was only with a particular server, one time, although the proprietor is very friendly.

                                                              1. re: justxpete

                                                                And you keep on defending Splendido. :-)
                                                                Reminds me of learning about inertia. Chowhounds also like to keep on doing what they're already doing.

                                                              2. re: prima

                                                                I'm male and on this board and for me it's Scaramouche all the way.

                                                                I've only been to Splendido once (Xmas 2011), and it was quite good. Fine service, better than most, but not as polished or as warm as Scaramouche's. Lovely space but I prefer Scaramouche's space. I’d go to Splendido more often but it is on the pricier side relative to Scaramouche’s Pasta Bar and they seem to be less generous in their protein servings than at Scaramouche (judging from my single experience there).

                                                                The food at Splendido was quite good. Actually it was very good. Far better than my lone experience at Nota Bene (I would not return). The food at Scaramouche is always excellent. I can't tell you how many food eureka moments I've had at Scaramouche ("So this is what so and so should taste like!").

                                                                Also, I'm certainly no regular at Scaramouche – they don’t know me from Adam - but the way I'm treated is as if I am a regular. Without fail. And I just love that to bits.

                                                                1. re: magic

                                                                  Thanks, magic. There goes my theory of gender bias! I guess there's no gender bias theory for taste.

                                                                  1. re: prima

                                                                    There you go :)

                                                                    1. re: magic

                                                                      Lets call a truce!!
                                                                      May be we should all bypass Splendido and Scaramouche and eat at 'Canoe' instead?! Ha!! I know food there is great and service at O&B's establishments always go out of their way to please!!

                                                                      1. re: Charles Yu

                                                                        Would be my pleasure :-) !

                                                                        1. re: Charles Yu

                                                                          Reading through this thread, all I kept thinking was, CANOE! And there it is from Charles. The service is always consistently warm and genuine (and we are NOT regulars) and the food, outstanding. And the view! the view... :)

                                                                          Millygirl, I would have been SO PUT OFF by a greeting like that when entering a restaurant. It sets a tone of 'we are doing you a favour accommodating you.' Pretty sure it is you doing them the favour bringing your business. I hate s**t like that. Learn the fine art of being a host, and welcome your guests properly. It is all part of the experience.

                                                                          --
                                                                          Rosie
                                                                          http://mytorontoscoop.com

                                                                          1. re: rosieintoronto

                                                                            On the contrary, my SO and I have had such poor and difficult service at Canoe, that I can't convince her to go back.

                                                                            1. re: justxpete

                                                                              I don't blame her. Bad service really irks me. I find it hard to give a place a second chance after that kind of service. It doesn't matter how good the food is. Service is all part of it for me, and if it is terrible, it taints the experience.

                                              2. re: millygirl

                                                We are planning a "celebration" dinner end of Feb/early March (hopefully the end of a nagging medical issue for me) - I had thought about somewhere other than Scaramouche - this confirms my decision to stay with Scaramouche. We've never been disappointed with them.

                                                1. re: CocoaChanel

                                                  Interesting to note that Ursa is rarely on these boards and its a terrific restaurant. Fairly casual but the food is outstanding. Pangea is also up there with the Splendidos and Scaramouches.

                                                  1. re: Rubyred1

                                                    The food at Pangea is very good, I quite like it at lunch.

                                                    I don't like the atmosphere for dinner, I would much rather go to Scaramouche for a special dinner. Just my preference

                                                    1. re: CocoaChanel

                                                      Can't beat Scaramouche - flawless.

                                                      1. re: CocoaChanel

                                                        Went to Pangaea for my birthday 2 years ago - never again! Went to Scaramouche for my birthday a year ago - not perfect but pretty good.
                                                        Was at Splendido last night - winterlicious - so many missteps you'd think it was a casual bistro that had no interest/energy to pay attention to details. However, the bread was the highlight of the meal (and not cold/frozen).

                                                        Haven't been to Auberge (or Canoe on a regular night) but my sense is we no longer have high-end world-class dining in TO. Small more casual restaurants like Ursa or Ascari Enoteca or Edulis or even Kaji are definitely the way to go even for big birthdays/celebrations. At least you get what you pay for.

                                                    2. re: CocoaChanel

                                                      Totally agree. If you want upscale, alittle refined dining, top notch food and service Scaramouche is the place to go.

                                                      1. re: millygirl

                                                        I've also been happy with the service at George and Opus.

                                                    3. re: millygirl

                                                      IMHO Winterlicious should be avoided at all costs in Toronto. Menus are pared down, service is sloppy and food is sub-par. Yes, this is a generalization but it has been our experience more than once. We now don't do winter or summer "licious" at all.

                                                      1. re: Rubyred1

                                                        Just for the record, we weren't doing Winterlicious. Maybe you missed my update Rubyred1. This is precisely what annoyed me most. We were there for the regular menu and when we heard they were participating in WL we thought about postponing our visit. However we were assured that WL would not affect us. They promised this would have no bearing on our evening. When in fact, the menu was cut in half.

                                                        To be fair though, I dont think I can blame WL on the state of that beef. It would have been tasteless either way.

                                                        1. re: millygirl

                                                          Sorry about that. I get myself in a snit about licious events.

                                                          1. re: millygirl

                                                            Actually if the Ribeye wasn't on the pared down menu (you said it was a special request to the kitchen), then the beef you got may not have been up to par. For example, not ideally aged, because they weren't planning to serve it for a quite a while. But of course they should have explained why they couldn't accomodate you if they didn't have their best available. Sounds like a service fail all around.

                                                        2. re: millygirl

                                                          Sorry to hear it was such a disappointing experience, Millygirl. I hope Mr. Millygirl enjoyed the rest of his birthday weekend.

                                                          1. re: millygirl

                                                            Sorry to hear you had such a poor experience!

                                                            1. re: jlunar

                                                              Thanks jlunar :)

                                                              But irregardless, the birthday weekend was great. Mr. MG enjoyed everything, but mostly our homemade pizzas last night. Need to work on the dough though. HA HA For some reason it kept shrinking back but that's the Home Cooking thread. Maybe I'll move over there LOL

                                                              Anyways it's done, Mr. MG is definitely not hard done by any stretch so let's move on as they say....

                                                              cheers everyone

                                                            2. re: millygirl

                                                              Went there recently based on glowing recommendations here. Wish I didn't talk others into spending 150 each on the tasting menu. They were too polite to outwardly criticize my choice but they took my apologies in stride the week after.

                                                              Staff was great. Consideration of allergies and food restrictions was excellent. Tasting menu though was okay at best. I thought maybe it was our taste buds given the other glowing reviews here but now I reconsider. In comparison to Hashimoto, Kaji or even Shoto, I would rank it a fair degree lower in terms of the menu construct.

                                                              Alot of risotto, alot of truffle...my palate wasn't able to appreciate nuances of flavouring in the dish. The Cumbrae beef tasted fairly gamey, bordering on spoiled. Interestingly, the beef on two other plates had completely different taste profiles - not sure how that can happen.

                                                              Anyhow, to each their own. Not a place I would revisit soon and lesson learned - try a place out myself no matter the reviews before bringing others.

                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
                                                              1. re: Yimahaji

                                                                I think they need bigger plates...

                                                                1. re: petek

                                                                  That was my thought on Saturday night - why accentuate the fact that you're serving me a tiny main course? Some of that plating in the photo gallery is ridiculous. I'd be expecting them to pour a jug of soup over the rest of the plate for dramatic flourish... By the way, these photos are somewhat representative of the small portions Winterlicious offers but you only get 2 plates of food before dessert.

                                                                  1. re: Food Tourist

                                                                    We went before Winterlicious. The service was excellent (We all felt all the front staff was amazing) and the tasting menu was quite filling without being overly so. We just weren't as appreciative of this tasting course as at other places (For instance, a different group taken to Maple Yip for the Yu-menu was thoroughly impressed and a tasting course at Shoto last year is still reminisced about). My food cred with this group will take a while to rebuild.

                                                                2. re: Yimahaji

                                                                  Hard to track all the replies here...am I right to assume that the "there" you went to was Splendido?

                                                                  1. re: Strongbad789

                                                                    Yeah, definitely looks like Splendido's style of tasting menu but you are right, the poster didn't specify "Splendido"

                                                                    1. re: Strongbad789

                                                                      Yep, that was Splendido

                                                                  2. re: millygirl

                                                                    So glad I decided not to go during WL for my birthday dinner at Splendido. Sorry to hear you were disappointed and that little or nothing was done to appease you. I think you should go for another birthday dinner to make up for this disaster!

                                                                    Now reconsidering ever going there! Sounds like Scaramouche, Ursa, or somewhere else may be a better bet for my postponed birthday dinner.

                                                                    1. re: millygirl

                                                                      I had a similar experience 3 years ago for my birthday, I'm sorry you had to endure it too!

                                                                      1. re: millygirl

                                                                        Hm. This is disappointing. I'm so sorry MG about your experience.
                                                                        I spoke with them on the phone today and asked if the menu was indeed paired down. He said it was to accomodate the volumes from WL, so I said I would return after WL (I rescheduled for March). I will go and report on how it is then.

                                                                        1. re: hungryabbey

                                                                          Here's hoping you enjoy a much better experience hungryabbey.