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topfrance Jan 16, 2013 02:41 AM

Hello
We are French and we will stay a few days in San Francisco from 1 May 2013.

Our hotel, Coventry Motor Inn is located 1901 Lombard Street.

Do you know any restaurants located near the periphery of this hotel? ..

We do not want to use the car, and if the area is secure enough we can use our Muni Pass to take the bus or cable car! ...

Of course, we want to avoid upscale restaurants and favor those who could help us discover the different flavors of the city: American (Burger),Mexican, Italian, Chinese ... (French, we know! ......)

Thank you in advance.

Excuse our bad English ...

  1. Robert Lauriston Jan 16, 2013 09:33 AM

    Walk to Tacolicious and Mamacita for Mexican.

    Walk to A16 for Italian. Make a reservation.

    Take the 45 bus to Alfred's steakhouse.

    47 bus or walk to House of Prime Rib.

    47 bus to Zuni Cafe for a burger before 6pm or after 10pm.

    That's not the best location if you don't have a car.

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    1. re: Robert Lauriston
      topfrance Jan 16, 2013 09:52 AM

      Thank you Robert,

      If we use the car, is it easier to park in the evening?
      If Yes, and from our hotel which direction would you advise us to find good restaurants without many kilometers?

      1. re: topfrance
        Robert Lauriston Jan 16, 2013 11:18 AM

        Parking's difficult near most of the restaurants you'd probably want to go to. Personally I'd stay in a hotel that's more central for public transportation. The area around Third and Market has lots of great restaurants nearby and is also the most central for public transit.

        1. re: topfrance
          d
          dunstable Jan 16, 2013 11:22 AM

          It's fine not to have a car in that neighborhood; in fact if your hotel didn't have a parking lot, I would have said the opposite, that it was actually inconvenient to use your car. There are plenty of nearby buses, most notably the 22, which goes down Fillmore and will take you through Japantown and the Mission. The area around your hotel is very lively at night, so cabs are usually not a problem either.

          Parking in San Francisco is generally very difficult, so unless you're going to the far side of the city, it's usually not worth driving within San Francisco.

          1. re: dunstable
            Ruth Lafler Jan 16, 2013 11:34 AM

            More expensive to use a car, too. When you consider rental costs, gas and parking you can buy a MUNI pass and take cabs late at night and still come out ahead.

        2. re: Robert Lauriston
          Cynsa Jan 16, 2013 10:47 AM

          #30 MUNI to downtown via Chinatown
          for lunch or dinner at Great Eastern

        3. smatbrat Jan 16, 2013 09:47 AM

          WELCOME!

          You are in a good neighborhood for walking. You are close to Union st and Chestnut which have some great restaurants. You are also close to Fishermans Wharf.

          The search for the Great Burger can be fun! Close to your hotel for a burger, I would go to Liverpool Lils.

          For Mexican, I would recommend a stroll through the MIssion of course, maybe trying different places along the way.

          Let us know a little bit more of what you are looking for

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          1. re: smatbrat
            topfrance Jan 16, 2013 10:25 AM

            @smatbrat
            Thank you !..

            We never set foot in San Francisco! ...

            The difficulty lies in the fact that we want to sample the culinary delights of your city without us away from our hotel too.

            However, we are ready to use our rental car to get into a restaurant that you advise us! .. However, I guess to park it must be difficult? ...

            We thank you for your cooperation.

            1. re: topfrance
              Ruth Lafler Jan 16, 2013 11:03 AM

              Yes, parking is difficult. Take MUNI -- it's not always pretty, but it's safe. The neighborhood around your hotel is safe for walking.

              Your English is just fine!

              If you are interested in regional American food, Dixie nearby in the Presidio might be worth a visit.

            2. re: smatbrat
              c oliver Jan 16, 2013 11:55 AM

              Every newcomer to SF needs to have a Mission-style burrito. Any recs for the best?

              1. re: c oliver
                topfrance Jan 16, 2013 11:58 AM

                OK !

                And the best burrito in Mission is ......?

                Thank

                1. re: topfrance
                  c oliver Jan 16, 2013 12:10 PM

                  Oh my! Battles are fought over that :) Here's one thread:

                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/422377

                  Here's a report from grayelf, a Vancouver, BC, CH who visits SF a couple of times a year. Other of her reports will give you all sorts of good advice.

                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/846932

                  You could spend your entire time in the Mission District (but don't!). It's got all sorts of good and great food.

            3. d
              DavidT Jan 16, 2013 09:58 AM

              Your hotel is on Lombard Street, at the corner of Buchanan Street.

              The Brazen Head is a bar/pub that serves pretty good "American" food and is 1 block away. It would be a good place for a hamburger or a steak. I believe they serve a special prime rib dinner on Monday & Tuesday. It is owned by the same people who own Liverpool Lil's. There is no sign outside marking the building!

              http://www.brazenheadsf.com/

              On Union Street, within 4 or 5 blocks of your hotel are Capannina (Italian) and Roam (burgers). Another block away is Pane e Vino, also good Italian.

              www.capanninasf.com
              www.roamburgers.com
              www.paneevinotrattoria.com

              If you are interested in trying barbeque and Southern-style food, try Cedar Hill BBQ, which is perhaps a 10-12 minute walk from your hotel.

              www.cedarhillsf.com

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              1. re: DavidT
                topfrance Jan 16, 2013 10:28 AM

                @Davidt
                Thank you very much !..

                You can read our answer above! ..

                I noted the list of restaurants that you recommend ! ..

                Thank you for your kind cooperation! ...

                1. re: topfrance
                  d
                  DavidT Jan 16, 2013 10:48 AM

                  By the way, if you are interested in seeing an American version of a French brasserie, take a look at Cafe des Amis, on Union Street at the corner of Buchanan.

                  www.cafedesamissf.com

                  Please be sure to follow up and let us know where you do go to eat and how you liked it. Thanks in advance!

              2. c
                ceekskat Jan 16, 2013 11:00 AM

                .6 km from your hotel is Roam Artisan Burgers. Casual but nice place with great burgers, fun drinks as well as beer & wine. Great neighborhood place.

                Zuni is an upscale restaurant in a not so upscale area with good food but I feel one doesn't need to eat a burger here to experience a great tasting burger in the U.S. The burger here is atypical in that it costs $15 excluding french fries and comes on focaccia bread.

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                1. re: ceekskat
                  topfrance Jan 16, 2013 11:18 AM

                  Thank you all for the wealth of informations! ..

                  Very sincerely, I do not expect much! ..

                  Very cordially.

                  1. re: ceekskat
                    Robert Lauriston Jan 16, 2013 11:24 AM

                    A large patty of good beef is expensive, as is grilling over mesquite charcoal. To me, those are two things that make a great hamburger, and Zuni does one of the best (odd choice of bread aside). Nobody who does that style is much cheaper.

                    Namu Gaji's might be even better. $16 including salad or fries.

                    A griddled burger with factory beef is much cheaper but to me not very interesting.

                    1. re: Robert Lauriston
                      Civil Bear Jan 16, 2013 12:44 PM

                      Put me down as a no vote for Zuni, even if the OP is looking for a high end burger. The price and focaccia just don't do it for me.

                      For an honest representation of a good American burger I would send them to Mo's for lunch while strolling around in North Beach.

                      1. re: Civil Bear
                        topfrance Jan 16, 2013 12:57 PM

                        The prices you mention are correct! ... Especially now with 1 euro = $ 1.33! ...

                        We hope that this will rise a little more for the month of May! ..

                        I actually found that Zuni was well rated on Tripadvisor! ...

                  2. d
                    DavidT Jan 16, 2013 11:31 AM

                    One more suggestion, if you walk 3 blocks to Union Street from your hotel, you can take either the #41 or #45 bus east to the Washington Square/North Beach area.

                    Original Joe's is a classic San Francisco, Italian-American restaurant that overlooks Washington Square. They also serve a pretty good burger.

                    www.originaljoessf.com

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                    1. re: DavidT
                      topfrance Jan 16, 2013 11:43 AM

                      I'm at the stage of making a small database! ...

                      In addition, your comments seem to me very relevant! ... (I hope that the translation will be easier for you! .. I literally translate French expressions! .......)

                      We do not have in France a website also hired as yours! .. This is unfortunate! ..

                      1. re: topfrance
                        Melanie Wong Jan 16, 2013 01:25 PM

                        I agree with DavidT that Original Joe's would be a good place for you to get a hamburger. It's in the North Beach area where I'm sure you'll visit, as it's not far from where you're staying and a favorite place for European visitors. I like OJ's because the clientele is a wide swathe of San Francisco society: young and old, working men and elites. That can be hard to find these days. There are a lot of pictures on the walls of old San Francisco for you to see.

                        When you order your hamburger there, be sure to ask for it to be charcoal-grilled. This is by special request only. Then it will be cooked over mesquite charcoal for a unique smoky flavor. Hamburger au feu de bois!

                        A short walk from your hotel is a fun outdoor street fair --- food trucks and drinks --- on Friday evenings at Marina Blvd and Laguna St in Fort Mason on the water. Here's a discussion with some photos from Off the Grid in Fort Mason.
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/851377
                        http://offthegridsf.com/

                        If you have some time before your travels, you may want to share your knowledge about your eating in your home country here,
                        France - chowhound community
                        http://chowhound.chow.com/boards/49

                        1. re: Melanie Wong
                          topfrance Jan 17, 2013 01:44 AM

                          Melanie thank you for your information.

                          I did not answer yesterday because it was already night here in France! ...

                          I noted your advice and thank you especially for giving me guidance on the major French cities forum! .. I imagined that the forum was reserved exclusively for the gastronomy of major U.S. cities. It is true that I did not look excessively! ...

                          Thank you again.

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