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Paella in NYC?

NYJewboy Jan 14, 2013 10:33 AM

I have only heard negative reviews that articulate how various establishments fail to rise to the occasion. I must have missed something. Where is the great paella?

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  1. JungMann Jan 14, 2013 11:03 AM

    Soccarat in Chelsea is not a bad place to start.

    1. ChefJune Jan 14, 2013 12:18 PM

      We've been enjoying the Paella at El Charro Espanol @ 4 Charles Street for more than 20 years.

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        RebelWithaCause Jan 14, 2013 12:21 PM

        I had DELICIOUS paella at tertulia

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          rrems Jan 14, 2013 02:49 PM

          Barraca

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            barberinibee Jan 15, 2013 06:43 AM

            I doubt there is enough demand for great paella in New York City. Most people in NY will tell you that paella is a rice and seafood dish, but true paella is actually rabbit and chicken (and rice and beans). And no chorizo.

            Great paella is highly dependent on a knowledge and use of particular rices and the particular beans of Valencia, and skilled cookery techniques, including the kind of pan used and whether or not is cooked outdoors using orange wood. It is actually rather hard to get great paella in Madrid, even -- and you're not necessarily guaranteed great paella in Barcelona either (and be careful what tourist trap you might walk into in Valencia!).

            In Catalonia, paella is often ordered by an entire table to serve a large family. The dish doesn't lend itself to one-unit cooking or NYC restaurant eating preferences for all diners ordering individually, with maximum variety, so they can all taste each other's food. Catalonian tapas flatters NYC ideas of exciting dining. Hard to pack 'em in serving paella.

            That doesn't mean you can't get tasty adaptations of paella dishes in restaurants in NYC and NJ, adjusted to meet American expectations, but don't be surprised if people who've been to Catalonia tell you they don't meet the test of a great paella.

            Every time you get an urge for a great paella, put $40 in a jar and have a salad instead. In not too much time, you can take the savings and go to Valencia...

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              NYJewboy Jan 15, 2013 07:02 AM

              Wow barberinibee, that was great! Way more info than any comment I have read in months! Is there anywhere in the US that you have had the rabbit/chicken version with the proper rices?

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                barberinibee Jan 15, 2013 07:55 AM

                No. I wonder if there is any part of the US where one finds enclaves of immigrants from Catalonia. I can't think of any, but I don't know. Even so, I think you still might need to go to Valencia because it is likely that, as with other immigrant transplants, the food morphs into something only resembling the original, given the inability to obtain the homeland ingredients. I don't think that is "bad". Good cooks aim to make delicious dishes, and if they need to change the spices because the beans or chickens aren't the same, they do. But you do get further and further from the classic, which is often the product of literally centuries of trial and error.

                In the meantime, you might see if you can wrangle an invitation to Sunday lunch with this professor whom I just came across online while looking to find an authentic paella recipe for you. He's such an enthusiast, he just might appreciate your quest:

                http://csl.cornell.edu/~martinez/paella/

                But even if he doesn't invite you to Sunday lunch, if there is anywhere in the US serving great or even good paella, he probably knows where it is.

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                  barberinibee Jan 15, 2013 08:22 AM

                  PS: Apparently there was a cohesive Catalan-speaking community in NYC in the 19thc,, even though the preferred destination of the "new world" was Cuba or Puerto Rico. There was a local a Catalan restaurant on Liberty Street which served, according to a Catalan-language newspaper published in NYC at that time, “dishes in the style of our land, well cooked and presented, and there is always wine, sausages, canned fruit, olives and other Catalan products”.

                  Other hotspots of Catalan immigration were the Mississippi delta, and for some reason, Ilion, NY (worked for Remington?), as well as Savannah, Philadelphia, Baltimore, DC, and SF.

                  http://nyhrarticles.blogspot.it/2012/...

                  It does seem to me that many Puerto Ricans have names closer to Catalan names than classic Castellian Spanish names, so maybe there is a paella tradition that could be traced through there, or Cuban restaurants.

            2. Motosport Jan 15, 2013 08:45 AM

              El Pote on 2nd av and 39 St has excellent Paella. Nice space and great service too.

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                tbone Jan 15, 2013 09:08 AM

                The worst Paella that I have ever had was at Soccarat on 2nd Ave and 50th. They skimped on the ingrediant to the point that even the waiter was laughing. I would stay away from this mini chain.

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                  thegforceny Jan 15, 2013 09:29 AM

                  I hated my meal too. (Same location.) I thought the paella was way greasy and not in a flavorful, high-quality olive oil way. Rest of food was not very good either. I do not feel they use good quality ingredients.

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                bombadilio Feb 17, 2013 02:43 PM

                Not necessarily true barber* I would not say that there is "great paella" in NYC. I find most of the time the Paella I make at home to be a lot more tasty than anything in the restaurants. I am going to give La Paella another go and I will write a review. I made a comment on outdated page that the best Paella I have had in NYC up to date was:

                La Galicia Restaurant on the corner of w. 172nd street and Broadway in Washington Heights. 212-568-0163

                The atmosphere is very laid back and more reminiscent of walking into a dive sailor spot off Valencia. The Paella I had was there seafood paella and they did not skimp on any of the ingredients. You are not going to get Calasparra "Bomba" Rice in it (more like whats used in risotto), but more of a Latin America version. I would definitely recommend making a trip like I did to their last year.

                J

                 
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                  sushiman Feb 18, 2013 04:02 PM

                  Really hard to find good paella in NYC.

                  Part of the problem is that if they cook it correctly, with socarrat, most NYers think that it is overcooked burned.

                  So to undercook it on purpose screws up the whole thing.

                  Socarrat restauarant uses some shortcuts that ruin their paellas and in my experience the cooking is wildly uneven.

                  My buddy raves about Boqueria, but he has an in with the chef who cooks it for him the right way.

                  Personally, I prefer fideua and cook it at home.

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