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EaterBob Jan 8, 2013 03:43 PM

Katerine-Lune Rollet has written up what she thinks are the five best new restaurants in Montreal. Here:
http://www.katerinerollet.com/restaur...

As En Route magazine's best new Canadian restaurants issue has been averaging two to three Montreal restaurants for the past couple of years, I figure that from Ms. Rollet's list only Maison publique makes it in November (the month the issue comes out). After all there probably is at least one, if not two new restaurants that haven't opened yet that will make the list.

I'd give Projet 67 +150
Park +400
Evoo +200
Mezcla +1900
and Maison publique -400

Then as instigator of this thread. The rules are after you've eaten at a restaurant mentioned in the 2013 openings feel free to post here what you think the odds are it makes it into En Route's November issue.

If anybody really wants to make cash money bets, you do so at your own risk.

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    JerkPork Oct 24, 2013 07:27 AM

    Here are the winners;

    Only Maison Publique from MTL.

    http://enroute.aircanada.com/canadas-...

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      Fintastic Oct 24, 2013 09:02 AM

      Although it's initially disappointing to see just one MTL restaurant on the list (I probably would have gone with Herman over MP), I think this list is pretty decent. It's got a bit more diversity in terms of style of establishment, cuisine, and location than previous lists, even if Vancouver is pretty well-represented. I'm certainly surprised (but pleases) to see Electric Mud make the list. It's not the type of resto that would typically make the list, but it's certainly the best BBQ north of the border (sorry DTC - you're exceptional but not quite at the same level).

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        EaterBob Oct 24, 2013 09:22 AM

        Have you tried Zee Grub in Hudson during the summer?

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          williej Oct 24, 2013 05:01 PM

          I find the list too Toronto centric. One Ottawa, Two Vancouver, one Fogo, One Calgary, one Quebec City, one Montreal, Three Toronto. Surely there are great new restaurants in the rest of the country!

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        chilipepper Aug 6, 2013 12:18 PM

        Here's the list:

        http://eatandvote.com/

        Congrats to all

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          Glaff Aug 6, 2013 12:47 PM

          I think there's not enough place given to David Chang's restaurants in that list.

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            EaterBob Aug 6, 2013 03:17 PM

            Obviously I should not quit my day job in order to become a restaurant bookmaker... BarBounya? Mezcla? (although props to tdiddy23 for that and Maison Publique).

            At least I got Hotel Herman.

            And what happened to Ms. Musgrave? Who is Andrew Braithwaite?

            And then as long as I am asking bewildered questions, which are David Chang's restaurants? I am not at all familiar with the Toronto food world.

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              Glaff Aug 6, 2013 04:05 PM

              Daisho, Momofuku Noodle Bar and Shoto.

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                EaterBob Aug 6, 2013 04:14 PM

                Thank you. That is a tad excessive.

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            EaterBob Jul 5, 2013 12:02 PM

            And since we are coming to the end (or have already come to the end of the nominating period) I figure it is as good a time as any to go over past laureates.

            2006
            #6 Pinxto
            #9 Joe Beef

            2007
            #4 Bistro Bienville

            2008
            #2 Le Local
            #9 Liverpool House

            2009
            #6 Cabane à sucre Au Pied de Cochon
            #10 La Salle à manger

            2010
            #3 Cava
            #10 Le Quartier Général

            2011
            #4 Les 400 Coups
            #6 Van Horne
            #8 Comptoir Charcuteries et Vins

            2012
            #5 Pastaga
            #10 Nora Gray

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              EaterBob Jul 5, 2013 10:10 AM

              Pub Sir Joseph -400

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                EaterBob May 22, 2013 04:18 PM

                Racines +300

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                  EaterBob May 7, 2013 08:57 PM

                  Impastare -750

                  And does anybody know what the cut off date is?

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                    EaterBob May 22, 2013 04:24 PM

                    And to answer my own question the cut of date is July. She then goes across Canada eating for something like the month of August into September. And then probably writes it up Sept/Oct for November publication.

                    http://enroute.aircanada.com/en/magaz... Page 99.

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                    EaterBob May 2, 2013 04:52 PM

                    Tripes & Caviar +400

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                      tdiddy23 Mar 16, 2013 02:52 PM

                      So i tried a few more of the new places, I think this might be a good year for montreal on the list

                      Hotel herman was great, nice space, good food, good wine list, since its already been written up in the globe and mail, I'd say this place is close to a lock for the list. -500

                      Mezcla was also seriously good, and the latin flare really makes it stand out in montreal, its a bit off the beaten path but I think it has a chance +600

                      Project 67 was good, didn't really jump out at me, thought the menu was kinda gimicky, nothing really wrong with the place either though. +1200

                      Cafe Sardin: loved it! great food, well sourced local ingredients, nice small plates, friendly people, best cocktails I've had in Montreal, interesting wine list. Place really screams Mile End vibe and delivers. Not sure if they'll make the list but I'll be cheering for them... and returning +300

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                        Glaff Mar 16, 2013 03:27 PM

                        Café Sardine is stopping dinner service at the end of the month, so I doubt they will make the list.

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                        Glaff Mar 13, 2013 05:48 PM

                        Le Vin Papillon -900 ;)

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                          EaterBob Mar 13, 2013 06:20 PM

                          Is Sarah Musgrave really going to give Montreal 3 out of the 10 slots? Normally Montreal only gets 2. (Toronto and Vancouver 3 each, Calgary, Halifax and other cities fighting over the last spot).

                          While I completely agree with your bookmaking, I can't see her changing the ratio. here's to hoping that it takes them at least six months from announcement to opening so that they can get bumped to 2014.

                          Otherwise I might have to actually put real money where my mouth is.

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                            EaterBob Jul 5, 2013 10:07 AM

                            Now that it is open, I'm even less convinced. I'd put it in the -150, -200 range. That is, if it opened before their deadline.

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                              Glaff Jul 5, 2013 10:50 AM

                              I don't see how they could be in the list for this year, it's too late... same with Impasto. And obviously no Le Serpent too.

                              But why you say you're less convinced?

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                                EaterBob Jul 5, 2013 11:41 AM

                                I don't know if their deadline is beginning of July or end of July, and if they don't make it this year, they will be eligible for next year.

                                As for why I am less convinced, the emphasis is most definitely on the wine and not on the food. In the same way that Pullman and Buvette Chez Simone didn't make the best of when they opened.

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                            EaterBob Mar 8, 2013 06:42 AM

                            Le Serpent, -900, about as close to a lock as you can get.

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                              Maximilien Mar 8, 2013 06:51 AM

                              what is "Le Serpent" ? a quick google return pretty much nothing ??

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                                EaterBob Mar 8, 2013 06:59 AM

                                The new Hubert Marsolais Claude Pelletier, Michele Mercuri, Philippe Boisvert and Denis Lessard restaurant going in where Cluny used to be. Opening sometime in June. Just in time to get in under the wire.

                                Mentioned previously here
                                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8821...

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                              EaterBob Mar 6, 2013 11:48 AM

                              Mir +900
                              Stefano Faita's new restaurant -300

                              And to those who don't bet on Football:
                              25% chance of getting onto the list = +300
                              50% chance of getting onto the list = +100
                              75% chance of getting onto the list = -300

                              Or in other words, the smaller the number, the better the chances. The larger the number, the less likely it will happen.

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                                j_do Mar 16, 2013 02:57 PM

                                +/-300 is actually +/- 33.3% e.g. -300 is a 3:1 favorite

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                                  EaterBob Mar 17, 2013 05:45 AM

                                  Exactly, 3/1 favorite, is a 75% chance of winning.

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                                EaterBob Jan 17, 2013 08:23 AM

                                The Satay Brothers Restaurant +100

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                                  tdiddy23 Jan 15, 2013 05:35 PM

                                  I would say Maison publique is more like +100. I don't think it deserves to be on the list, but might make it anyway because its such an easy write up. Went there last weekend and was a little disapointed with the food, nice atmosphere and people though

                                  park +800, it is a good sushi option in montreal (actually probably the best I've had in Montreal), but I think this is more reflective overall poor sushi here rather than some new, creative resto that deserves to be on the national spotlight

                                  really want to try mezcla and hotel herman soon

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                                    Glaff Jan 8, 2013 03:48 PM

                                    Hotel Herman and Café Sardine were not open in time for the 2012 Best Of. They could make the 2013 list too.

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                                      EaterBob Jan 9, 2013 04:43 AM

                                      I'd give Hotel Herman -900
                                      Café Sardine +300

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