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En Route Magazine Best New Restaurant odds

Katerine-Lune Rollet has written up what she thinks are the five best new restaurants in Montreal. Here:

As En Route magazine's best new Canadian restaurants issue has been averaging two to three Montreal restaurants for the past couple of years, I figure that from Ms. Rollet's list only Maison publique makes it in November (the month the issue comes out). After all there probably is at least one, if not two new restaurants that haven't opened yet that will make the list.

I'd give Projet 67 +150
Park +400
Evoo +200
Mezcla +1900
and Maison publique -400

Then as instigator of this thread. The rules are after you've eaten at a restaurant mentioned in the 2013 openings feel free to post here what you think the odds are it makes it into En Route's November issue.

If anybody really wants to make cash money bets, you do so at your own risk.

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  1. Hotel Herman and Café Sardine were not open in time for the 2012 Best Of. They could make the 2013 list too.

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    1. re: Glaff

      I'd give Hotel Herman -900
      Café Sardine +300

    2. I would say Maison publique is more like +100. I don't think it deserves to be on the list, but might make it anyway because its such an easy write up. Went there last weekend and was a little disapointed with the food, nice atmosphere and people though

      park +800, it is a good sushi option in montreal (actually probably the best I've had in Montreal), but I think this is more reflective overall poor sushi here rather than some new, creative resto that deserves to be on the national spotlight

      really want to try mezcla and hotel herman soon

      1. The Satay Brothers Restaurant +100

        1. Mir +900
          Stefano Faita's new restaurant -300

          And to those who don't bet on Football:
          25% chance of getting onto the list = +300
          50% chance of getting onto the list = +100
          75% chance of getting onto the list = -300

          Or in other words, the smaller the number, the better the chances. The larger the number, the less likely it will happen.

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          1. re: EaterBob

            +/-300 is actually +/- 33.3% e.g. -300 is a 3:1 favorite

            1. re: j_do

              Exactly, 3/1 favorite, is a 75% chance of winning.

          2. Le Serpent, -900, about as close to a lock as you can get.

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            1. re: EaterBob

              what is "Le Serpent" ? a quick google return pretty much nothing ??

              1. re: Maximilien

                The new Hubert Marsolais Claude Pelletier, Michele Mercuri, Philippe Boisvert and Denis Lessard restaurant going in where Cluny used to be. Opening sometime in June. Just in time to get in under the wire.

                Mentioned previously here

              1. re: Glaff

                Is Sarah Musgrave really going to give Montreal 3 out of the 10 slots? Normally Montreal only gets 2. (Toronto and Vancouver 3 each, Calgary, Halifax and other cities fighting over the last spot).

                While I completely agree with your bookmaking, I can't see her changing the ratio. here's to hoping that it takes them at least six months from announcement to opening so that they can get bumped to 2014.

                Otherwise I might have to actually put real money where my mouth is.

                1. re: Glaff

                  Now that it is open, I'm even less convinced. I'd put it in the -150, -200 range. That is, if it opened before their deadline.

                  1. re: EaterBob

                    I don't see how they could be in the list for this year, it's too late... same with Impasto. And obviously no Le Serpent too.

                    But why you say you're less convinced?

                    1. re: Glaff

                      I don't know if their deadline is beginning of July or end of July, and if they don't make it this year, they will be eligible for next year.

                      As for why I am less convinced, the emphasis is most definitely on the wine and not on the food. In the same way that Pullman and Buvette Chez Simone didn't make the best of when they opened.

                2. So i tried a few more of the new places, I think this might be a good year for montreal on the list

                  Hotel herman was great, nice space, good food, good wine list, since its already been written up in the globe and mail, I'd say this place is close to a lock for the list. -500

                  Mezcla was also seriously good, and the latin flare really makes it stand out in montreal, its a bit off the beaten path but I think it has a chance +600

                  Project 67 was good, didn't really jump out at me, thought the menu was kinda gimicky, nothing really wrong with the place either though. +1200

                  Cafe Sardin: loved it! great food, well sourced local ingredients, nice small plates, friendly people, best cocktails I've had in Montreal, interesting wine list. Place really screams Mile End vibe and delivers. Not sure if they'll make the list but I'll be cheering for them... and returning +300

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                  1. re: tdiddy23

                    Café Sardine is stopping dinner service at the end of the month, so I doubt they will make the list.

                    1. Impastare -750

                      And does anybody know what the cut off date is?

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                      1. re: EaterBob

                        And to answer my own question the cut of date is July. She then goes across Canada eating for something like the month of August into September. And then probably writes it up Sept/Oct for November publication.

                        http://enroute.aircanada.com/en/magaz... Page 99.

                          1. And since we are coming to the end (or have already come to the end of the nominating period) I figure it is as good a time as any to go over past laureates.

                            #6 Pinxto
                            #9 Joe Beef

                            #4 Bistro Bienville

                            #2 Le Local
                            #9 Liverpool House

                            #6 Cabane à sucre Au Pied de Cochon
                            #10 La Salle à manger

                            #3 Cava
                            #10 Le Quartier Général

                            #4 Les 400 Coups
                            #6 Van Horne
                            #8 Comptoir Charcuteries et Vins

                            #5 Pastaga
                            #10 Nora Gray

                              1. re: chilipepper

                                I think there's not enough place given to David Chang's restaurants in that list.

                                1. re: chilipepper

                                  Obviously I should not quit my day job in order to become a restaurant bookmaker... BarBounya? Mezcla? (although props to tdiddy23 for that and Maison Publique).

                                  At least I got Hotel Herman.

                                  And what happened to Ms. Musgrave? Who is Andrew Braithwaite?

                                  And then as long as I am asking bewildered questions, which are David Chang's restaurants? I am not at all familiar with the Toronto food world.

                                  1. re: EaterBob

                                    Daisho, Momofuku Noodle Bar and Shoto.

                                    1. re: Glaff

                                      Thank you. That is a tad excessive.

                                  1. re: JerkPork

                                    Although it's initially disappointing to see just one MTL restaurant on the list (I probably would have gone with Herman over MP), I think this list is pretty decent. It's got a bit more diversity in terms of style of establishment, cuisine, and location than previous lists, even if Vancouver is pretty well-represented. I'm certainly surprised (but pleases) to see Electric Mud make the list. It's not the type of resto that would typically make the list, but it's certainly the best BBQ north of the border (sorry DTC - you're exceptional but not quite at the same level).

                                    1. re: Fintastic

                                      Have you tried Zee Grub in Hudson during the summer?

                                      1. re: Fintastic

                                        I find the list too Toronto centric. One Ottawa, Two Vancouver, one Fogo, One Calgary, one Quebec City, one Montreal, Three Toronto. Surely there are great new restaurants in the rest of the country!