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My dear piscaterian father eats the stuff at least 4 times a week and always buys it whenever dinner guests are brought over. And we are not talking about fresh Sockeye (which I would gladly eat 4 times a week) but the frozen farmed squared stuff. I have tried to get him to start with other fishes such as eel, Mackerel, catfish to no avail. It appears as though flavour and not being pink are solid ground for exclusion. The worst is when we go to dinner parties where the hosts will serve salmon and everyone will hem and haw about how delicate the fish is and sophisticated the hosts are for serving it. Don't get me wrong - I have no ax to grind with salmon and can enjoy a well cooked fish with a subtle wine sauce. My problem is that too many times truly sub-par fish is being passed as edible merely because of the colour of its flesh.

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  1. Tell him that white-fleshed king salmon is more prized than pink.

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    1. re: PAO

      you laugh -- I once had a chef stand in front of me straight-faced and tell me that salmon turns white when you cook it.

    2. The same thing goes or aji/bluefin tuna. I really enjoy them both as quality sushi, but they would be my last pick up as a farmed/frozen fish. The quality suffers too much whereas some cheaper, leaner white fish like tilapia the difference isn't nearly as noticeable.

      You might be able to get him to move to albacore or yellowtail, and explore from there. Black cod 4x a week? Don't mind if I do.

      It's a shame to pass on eel or mackerel.

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      1. re: Rodzilla

        I agree, but people tend to think that eels are gross and mackerel is nasty cat food.

      2. I can't eat it anymore because once the SuperTarget had Sockeye fillets (frozen) at $3.50 a pound and I bought 18 pounds, ate it all myself.

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        1. re: redfish62

          Wow! You definitely need to add that to the: "General Topics – I ate too much of it once..."

        2. The only salmon I eat is lox. Okay, that's not true. I also eat salmon nigiri once in a blue moon. I definitely don't eat cooked salmon.

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          1. re: Worldwide Diner

            I only eat raw salmon, too. Turned off by too much stinky cooked salmon. Luckily, no one has served it to me at a dinner party.

            1. re: emily

              It's only stinky when it isn't fresh.
              No fish should be 'stinky'...when it is, it's definitely over-the-hii.

              1. re: The Professor

                You can get rid of the stinky by soaking in milk.....but its still old or frost bitten fish.

          2. My husband was a commercial salmon fisherman. When the commercial fishery in our zone was closed he was still setting gear for other fish, and no one told the salmon not to swim into them. That year the cod fishery was very poor. My husband was regularly coming in with 1-200 lb of cod -- not enough to pay for gas for the engine. If the salmon in his nets were alive he'd release them, but he couldn't leave the dead ones to foul the bottom. Obviously we couldn't sell them -- so we ate them. Boiled, baked, fried, steamed -- hot, cold -- made into sandwiches, fishcakes or casseroles -- whole, in steaks, filletted -- breakfast, lunch, dinner. It's a wonder we didn't start swimming upstream. In addition to eating them, my poor husband and step-daughter were hauling and gutting them. It was all salmon all the time. After about 4 weeks of this, one night at suppertime I looked at the salmon in the pan, put it down on the floor for the cats and sent down to the shop for bologna.

            It's been almost 20 years, but I still tend to avoid it if possible.

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            1. re: mewright

              Can I ever relate. So where did your husband fish out of if you don't mind me asking?

              1. re: Puffin3

                The west side of Placentia Bay, Newfoundland

                1. re: mewright

                  Very beautiful part of the world.
                  I fished off Brooks Peninsula, Vancouver Island.

              2. re: mewright

                Yeah, you need to post to the: "General Topics – I ate too much once" too!

                Did y'all experience any change in skin color?

              3. Wild fresh salmon? no

                Farmed/frozen? No because I never eat it, LOL.

                1. After commercial fishing salmon using trolling gear for a long time I can say that I can't stand the stuff. I never liked it even when it had come out of the water thirty minutes ago. I've eaten it every way known to man. The only salmon I now eat is what I've cold smoked. Even then I don't use Spring (King) salmon. The best IMO is Sockeye or Chum. Give me a nice piece of fresh ling cod or rock cod any day. This last Christmas we went to relatives for Christmas. Someone had brought a whole baked 'Pink'. Basically the cheapest nastiest salmon there is. The flesh was actually gray. The awful stink from that fish filled the kitchen! Gaaaaah!

                  1. Lack of awareness? Ignorance is bliss? The perennial desire of people wanting to eat whatever they like, common sense, environment and heath be darned?

                    There is plentiful info out there describing the growing conditions and associated issues, which IMO would be enough to put anyone off farmed salmon. And what about the problem of ingesting PCB's and mercury? High fat fish is notorious for carrying the most toxins. Depending on portion size, 4x a week probably exceeds any published safe consumption guideline.

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                    1. re: splatgirl

                      There was an episode of Cooks Country where Chris Kimball interviewed a fishmonger, Julia Collin Davis' husband. He said he'd rather eat farm-raised salmon because there was no way of knowing what the wild salmon had been exposed to.

                      Sadly, farm-raised or wild, it seems in time the entire seafood chain will be ruined.

                      1. re: Custardly

                        I remember that episode and it had me shaking my head. Do you really know what farmed salmon have been exposed to. I doubt there is any standard on what they can\can not be fed. In fact, many studies have shown there is an increased risk of exposure to carcinogen from eating farmed salmon comapred to wild.

                        1. re: Custardly

                          Not taking any "problems" into consideration, I have never met a "farm-raised" salmon, that I enjoyed. Maybe it's just me?

                          Hunt

                          1. re: Bill Hunt

                            It's not.

                            1. re: Bill Hunt

                              Cook it properly. (If it's been frozen, it's completely safe.)

                              1. re: pikawicca

                                I am not talking about toxicity, but the flavor and texture.

                                Hunt

                        2. I'm sick of farmed Atlantic salmon for sure.
                          But I could never get sick of good, wild Sockeye salmon.

                          1. Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish. I'll never get sick of King Salmon or sockeye.

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                            1. re: TraderJoe

                              True. Farmed fish are the devil.

                              /sarcasm

                            2. Have you tried buying another option for him? I mean, perhaps he opts for the farmed salmon because it is cheaper and what he always has.

                              Maybe you just need to give him a nudge in a new direction.

                              1. No. thought I hated salmon, growing up in AZ, all there was was bad canned salmon. Then I visited a friend in Alaska and all that changed- it was salmon season.
                                Ill eat farmed salmon if it's cooked well, but I won't order it in a restaurant, and I only buy the wild salmon- and that not too often because I don't want them to be overfished, like they did with King Crab up there.

                                1. Salmon, when well prepared and fresh (Pacific/Alaskan preferably) - no. Much of what I encounter in restaurants - yes.

                                  Hunt

                                  1. I kinda like smoked salmon, but much prefer gravlax. Other than that, cooked salmon never appealed to me.

                                    What gets me is a restaurant's "fish of the day"; 50/50 its gonna be salmon. I feel cooks many times choose this because because its a "safe" choice on the menu...
                                    "Whats the 'catch of the day' " I'd ask a waiter, "no, wait, let me guess; salmon?"
                                    "Yeah, howdja know?"
                                    "Oh, I dunno, lucky guess maybe?"

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                                    1. re: porker

                                      Not THAT long ago, it would have been Chilean Sea Bass (nee Patagonian Toothfish), but that passed from favor.

                                      Let Oprah do a program on Sea Slugs, and they will be the "catch of the day."

                                      Hunt

                                      1. re: Bill Hunt

                                        I loved Chilean sea bass SO much. It was the perfect seafood to me, i'd throw it into a hot cast iron skillet on the grill with herbs and salt and the result would be so good you could cry. The price went up from $3.99/lb slowly up into the stratosphere,which to me is always the huge sign that it's gotten overfished, so stop eating it.
                                        I hope to hell they never overfish squid, that's all I can say.

                                        1. re: Bill Hunt

                                          "Let Oprah do a program on Sea Slugs, and they will be the "catch of the day."

                                          And the price will triple! LOL

                                          1. re: TraderJoe

                                            I just saw a local fishmonger having a sale of sea slugs - down from US $ 18/lb to $12. Guess that she beat me to the punch?

                                            Hunt

                                          2. re: Bill Hunt

                                            Yeah, just what the hell does she know about fish?

                                            1. re: Bill Hunt

                                              It's not so much that it passed from favor, Bill, as the price sky-rocketed. My local Publix here in Tampa was recently selling Chilean Sea Bass for $29.99 a pound. I like fish as much as the next guy, but at that price, I can save money by eating filet mignon. What is the world coming to?

                                          3. I hate to post this but i must know! I saw a video on youtube about worms in fish! Especiall red canned sockeye salmon! It showed a huge tapeworm crawling out of the can! I havent eaten salmon ever since! And i love salmon and im so hungry for it! I miss my salmon cakes i love to eat! But i saw a salmon fillet in another video a woman just bought at her supermarket, and you could see the little worms crawling out of the fillet! It freaked me out completely! Tel me please is canned salmon safe to eat at all?? Or even fresh fish fillets?? even frozen ones????! Im so hungry for salmon and terrified to eat it now! Thank you!

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                                            1. re: Babyroses

                                              Worms are common in all large fish, the cooking/freezing process kills them.

                                              1. re: redfish62

                                                So, they're still there, just cooked and/or frozen. Not removed?

                                              2. re: Babyroses

                                                There is no way in hell that a tapeworm could emerge live from a can. Somebody was trying to freak you out. There are parasites in fish, there's no way out of that, but what you're talking about is some troll trying to freak you out.

                                                1. re: EWSflash

                                                  I dunno, if its on the net, espeially youtube, it must be true.

                                                2. re: Babyroses

                                                  The fish is pressure cooked in the can. No way the worm survived.

                                                3. Get steelhead trout. It's red like salmon but actually better tasting, more tender. Cook like salmon including saute in olive oil with salt and pepper crisping the skin side down first.

                                                  Costco sells it--yeah, even the farmed is good. Delicate. I heard a lot of restaurants sell it for salmon as it's cheaper and people actually like it more but think it's salmon.

                                                  1. I visited a salmon and trout farm in Oregon years ago. The little salmon were being raised in big concrete pools until they were big enough to be put in pens in the ocean. The trout were raised to sell in grocery stores. At the same facility were lots of HUGE barns full of turkeys. A machine collected all the turkey poop and turned it into dry pellets. The little salmon and trout were fed the pellets. Another machine collected all the salmon/trout poop from their pools by filtering the water. This poop was turned into dry pellets and fed to the turkeys. And the guts from the trout was turned into dry pellets to fed the turkeys. All the guts/heads/feet/feathers etc from the turkeys, after they were processed, were turned into dry pellets for the fish to eat.
                                                    Pretty 'cool' eh?

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                                                    1. re: Puffin3

                                                      OT:
                                                      poultry litter is also fed to other farm-raised livestock.

                                                      1. re: Puffin3

                                                        Whatever. Things that we eat feed on things that we would never eat. If you're that freaked out about that, I'd never eat again if I were you.

                                                      2. Yes, sick of it a long time ago. Never buy or order in a restaurant. If someone cooks and serves it to me, fine.

                                                        1. Hi yes I to get a little tired of it but I have a great substitute.. it is steelhead trout.. looks just like like salmon when bought as fillets .. i bought it thinking I bought salmon ..once I discovered what i bought I went online for recipes... best recipe is just brushing it with melted butter, few dashes of cayenne then just at the last 5 minutes you brugh it with a spicy bbq sauce that is diluted by 1/3 with water.... absolutely wonderful on the grill!
                                                          you can get it at costco.. try it...its great! we haven't gone back to salmon yet!

                                                          1. Not at all, I look forward to my usually weekly Sunday night baked wild king salmon filet.

                                                            1. not a huge fan of cooked salmon - perhaps most of what I've had has been farmed? not sure... I *do* like salmon sushi, altho it isn't my first choice, but it's pretty much the only way I eat salmon these days.

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                                                              1. re: jujuthomas

                                                                I grew up eating super fresh, whole salmon "baked" in tinfoil. Always preferred the lighter ones, sockeye was not a favourite. Now I eat arctic char instead.

                                                                1. re: grayelf

                                                                  Arctic Char is really the best of all the salmon-type fish. I haven't gotten tired of it yet.

                                                              2. Yeah I'm sick of salmon. It was never a favorite but I could appreciate it once in a while. But...

                                                                Eel is gross and mackerel is nasty cat food.

                                                                :-D

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                                                                1. re: ItalianNana

                                                                  I think eel and mackeral can be pretty good depending on prep. Grilled eel and mackerel sashimi come to mind....
                                                                  I'm just sayin.

                                                                2. Nope, love salmon and if fresh wild King is at the store when I'm there whatever I had planned to cook is changed and I have salmon instead. I love it!

                                                                  1. I hate salmon so much I come close to hating people that love it.

                                                                    1. I never really liked it in the first place, and only eat it now because I know I should. Only wild salmon, not that farm raised stuff, ever......

                                                                      1. I saw this topic, and though "Oh gosh, no! I love salmon." But, upon reading your post, I realize what I eat is different than that. We generally do sockeye from the west coast. No way will I eat the farmed Atlantic.

                                                                        Right now, we have been enjoying some filets and also some ground sockeye that we use in place of ground beef. It's fantastic!

                                                                        Love smoked salmon too...and salmon jerky.

                                                                        1. Coho is pretty tasty

                                                                          1. Farmed is terrible, would never touch

                                                                            I am sick of cooked salmon, much agreed.

                                                                            I don't think I could ever be sick of salmon sushi or sashimi, however (not the low-rent stuff, nor the ghetto varieties such as 'spicy salmon' blah blah)

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                                                                            1. re: ameotoko

                                                                              I think "spicy salmon" is made so that there is something to put into the Monster Truck Rolls they serve at White Guy Sushi.

                                                                              1. re: Tripeler

                                                                                That's a little much...

                                                                                More realistically, spicy salmon and its ilk exist because of discomfort and unfamiliarity with eating unmolested raw fish, which really is a cross-cultural thing

                                                                                I know most often it's the 'butter chicken of Japanese food' in the West, but sometimes it's a careful step into introducing oneself to actual sushi as well

                                                                                There's no monster truck culture here and jump as I will on white diners' preference for this butter chicken claptrap having ruined local Pak restos' focus on actual food....it's not white guys keeping spicy salmon in business, it's really just a lot of people who either don't know, or don't get on with, actual sushi

                                                                            2. Yes, 4 times a month is a bit much. Perhaps twice a month is more like it. Besides, there are other fish he could eat: hering, sprats, sardines, eel to name just a few.

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                                                                              1. re: Wawsanham

                                                                                Not four times a month, but four times a week!! I like salmon, but like you, I think I can only eat it 2-3 times a month.

                                                                                1. re: dmjordan

                                                                                  Oops, I meant to write 4 times a week is a bit much. 4 times a month...well, borderline too much.

                                                                                  1. re: dmjordan

                                                                                    Yeah I agree, 2 -3 times a month. That's the great thing about fish, plenty of variety and good on the waist.

                                                                                2. Oh my goodness yes. I have tried to like it but except for Copper River fresh salmon the stuff never enters my home.

                                                                                  I would never eat any farmed fish. I have been to dinner parties was salmon. I kind of pick at it and maybe have a few bites that I swallow quickly, but no. When Copper River is in season we'll gladly pay the $$ for it, but only it.

                                                                                  1. Never! I could eat it 4 times a week too. I get sides at Costco and nibble at it and add it to salad for days after we have it as a main course.

                                                                                    I'm not sure how I'd feel about a frozen block of it. I haven't tried that. I just get fresh while caught when Costco has it and pass when they don't. Is it possible you're objecting to poor quality or poor preparation and blaming salmon when it's only incidental to the problem.

                                                                                    1. Yes! I am so sick of cooked salmon that I have not eaten it in over a year and don't care to eat it again.
                                                                                      I do however love salmon sashimi and/or smoked salmon. Don't think I'll ever get sick of those two.

                                                                                      1. Fresh, line-caught king salmon from the Pacific Northwest is one of the finest foods on earth. Farmed salmon, one of the worst.

                                                                                        1. I wouldn't eat farmed/frozen even if I get paid to. The thought of the fish swimming in water concentrated with feces gives me the gag reflex.

                                                                                          I dont understand why artificial means were created. Wild fish should be regulated and if theyre not available for a few seasons, consumers should look for alternatives instead of relying on mutant versions of the species.

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                                                                                          1. re: RitaLin

                                                                                            because the rates of reproduction in the wild are simply not high enough to support the population. Period.

                                                                                            1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                              Farmed seafood has also brought many products to people who otherwise could not afford seafood.

                                                                                              Like anything else, there is good, not so good & bad. Much depends on the species & location of the farm. Ocean Garden has been putting out very high quality farm raised shrimp for years that could fool some pretty sophisticated taste buds.

                                                                                              1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                First of all, I love people that spell out "Period". Secondly, the population isn't reliant on salmon exclusively. There are alternatives mankind could consume to support its population.

                                                                                                1. re: RitaLin

                                                                                                  but mankind continues to demand salmon (and oysters. and clams. and catfish. and shrimp. and ad infinitum) in quantities that far exceed anything that the natural reproduction rates will support.

                                                                                                  The earth's fisheries are scarily overfished.

                                                                                                  We simply MUST find a way to sustainably produce healthy sources of protein. Fish is far more sustainable than any four-legged critter...so I'm quite certain it will evolve.

                                                                                            2. Do not like it cooked, but sashimi salmon is our favorite. It always tastes dry to me when cooked.

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                                                                                              1. re: Nanzi

                                                                                                I believe that most sushi/sashimi salmon is cooked or cured or smoked. Not raw. Perhaps there are exceptions.

                                                                                                1. re: mwhitmore

                                                                                                  Raw salmon sushi is widely available most places I've been. Some sushi restaurants offer smoke salmon as well but most offer raw salmon. Like a lot of others on this thread I don't like cooked salmon but I love salmon nigiri and sashimi.

                                                                                                  1. re: mwhitmore

                                                                                                    In the US, it has to be frozen to kill any existing parasites, but it is absolutely served raw at least as often as in any other form.

                                                                                                    1. re: mwhitmore

                                                                                                      Not cooked or cured. Frozen, yes