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firelady12 Jan 1, 2013 01:05 PM

We are taking a 1/2 day or so to visit Queens on an upcoming trip (March) to NY. Just planning to do Chinatown area and Flushing Meadows. Was considering Dum Sum for breakfast/brunch. I thought Dong Yi Feng looked good - none of us have ever had Dim Sum before (we are not Asian, so language would be a barrier) but are very much looking forward to this! Has anyone been there or have a better suggestion? How much should we plan to pay?
Also, anything else we should not miss in the Chinatown area?
Thanks much!

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    swannee Jan 1, 2013 02:22 PM

    To be really honest, I don't think that dim sum is the best option in Flushing, although some of the places are quite good. Dim sum is quintessentially Hong Kong and Cantonese, and Flushing has mostly Northeastern, Sichuan, Taiwanese, etc. Imperial Palace is great Cantonese, but they don't have dim sum. Dim sum is however fun and easy for non Chinese speakers, since one looks and points.

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      fourunder Jan 1, 2013 02:38 PM

      I enjoyed Jade Asian very much and there's a big Municipal Parking Garage right across the street.

      http://jadeasiannyc.com/

    2. chefjellynow Jan 2, 2013 07:10 AM

      I agree with both swannee and fourunder, while there is many better options in Flushing than Dim Sum when I do get it its always Jade..

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        Lau Jan 13, 2013 10:50 AM

        you will probably enjoy dim sum since you've never had it before and its probably one of the most outsider friendly type of chinese foods (since they still do it the old school way here in NY with carts, so you can just point). jade asian is probably fine for your purposes

        that said dim sum in NY is not outstanding, the "best" places are just decent. However, I think you should probably go as I find it's probably the easiest intro into chinese food and i've yet to find someone who doesn't really like dim sum

        here are the things you should definitely try (i gave links to pics so you know what they should look like):

        ha gow: these are steamed shrimp dumplings, alot of chinese people say this is how you are supposed to judge a dim sum restaurant
        http://www.foodgps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/lunasia-har-gow.jpg

        siu mai: steamed pork dumplings sometimes has a scallop and or crab roe on top; i like these with a little soy sauce
        http://carmelsuttor.ca/images/siumai.jpg

        cha siu bao: these are a type of steamed pork bun (the sauce is semi-sweet); they come steamed or baked, i much prefer steamed
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Roastporkbun.jpg

        cheung fan: this is steamed rice noodle filled with usually either beef, shrimp or roasted pork and topped with a light slightly sweet soy sauce. i prefer beef or shrimp (get both
        )http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GD_Rice_Product_1.JPG

        lo bat go: this is a fried minced turnip cake with chinese ham, you eat it with oyster sauce
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Daikoncake.jpg

        dan tat: this is dessert and its a sweet egg custard tart
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Egg_custard_tarts.jpg

        pai gwat: these are steamed pork rib tips cut up and put in a black bean sauce; they are bone on, so you will need to bit them and bit the meat off the bone
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dimsumpaigui.jpg

        lo mai gai: this is a sticky rice dumpling
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lo_mai_gai_2.JPG
        http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_G4b8y9nDVjU...

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          fourunder Jan 13, 2013 11:11 AM

          Lau....I just wanted to say you are a generous guy with your time and knowledge.....it has not gone unnoticed by me and your posts are always appreciated.

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            Lau Jan 13, 2013 11:42 AM

            thanks!

            im one of those people that is always kind of doing something, so even "relaxing" at home i'm usually writing something or reading something haha

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            howdini Apr 5, 2013 04:24 PM

            Lau, thank you so much for letting me know what these dishes are called! l know what l like, and l always point to them on the carts, but until now l've never known the names of them. Pai gwat is an especial favorite of mine.

            l echo fourunder's sentiments: your posts and comments are always informative and most appreciated!

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              Lau Apr 5, 2013 04:56 PM

              no problem at all, happy to help

              fyi, those names are in cantonese which will give u the most bang for the buck since dim sum is cantonese and alot of the workers in NY dont speak mandarin very well

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            budcar Jan 13, 2013 05:18 PM

            For those of you naysayers about Flushing dimsum, a visit to Lake Pavillion today with a fifteen minute wait at 11:00 am proved that it is a very popular choice . I am sure Jade Asian is similarly crowded. The choices were pretty standard and a steamer of soup dumplings was also available as well as greens that looked broccoli rabe. It all was delicious. The staff was friendly and helpful. The only negative is the parking. We landed a spot on Horace Harding, west of Main St, a five minute walk.

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              Lau Jan 13, 2013 05:42 PM

              ill give lake pavilion a try for dim sum, ive obviously tried it for dinner
              https://www.lauhound.com/2012/12/lake...

              did you think its similar to jade? jade is competent, but not great dim sum

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                budcar Jan 14, 2013 02:05 PM

                Lau, Lake Pavillion is similar to Jade Asian both in the scope of the dishes and quality of the food. I enjoy both and can't comment on "great dimsum." as opposed to " competent". Grand Restaurant was the only parlor where the food had an offbeat assortment which I found less enjoyable. Lake Pavilion did have soup dumplings which I think belong in a dimsum restaurant.

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                  Lau Jan 14, 2013 02:39 PM

                  yah there is nothing wrong with Jade's dim sum and it tastes good. My point was rather that it's just decent on an absolute basis. NY has never really had an excellent dim sum restaurant to my knowledge, so i think the people's gauge about what great dim sum is are a little off (out of no fault of their own). In fact, the only dim sum restaurants I've been to in the US that I would consider very good would be Sea Harbour (LA), Elite (LA) and Koi Palace (SF), which would all be considered pretty decent in HK. I'm probably coming off kind of snobby right now, but I just think there is alot of room for improvement in NY dim sum and i hope somebody comes in and steps up b/c dim sum is definitely a favorite type of food for me, but i honestly dont go that often in NY anymore b/c i've gotten kind of disillusioned with it here.

                  also, soup dumplings are not a cantonese dish, they are a shanghainese dish (although they've become somewhat popular at dim sum restaurants now). So they're not a traditional dim sum offering although you see alot places offer them.

                  That said one of the best soup dumplings I've ever had were at a upscale dim sum restaurant in Hong Kong who makes them hairy crab row (unbelievable)
                  https://www.lauhound.com/2010/10/fu-s...

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                    scoopG Jan 15, 2013 04:32 AM

                    Joe Ng's Chinatown Brasserie served excellent dim sum by any standards.

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                      Pookipichu Jan 15, 2013 01:44 PM

                      IMO, Chinatown Brasserie had better dim sum than Koi Palace in some ways (high quality ingredients but more inventive). Hakkasan NYC has better dim sum (very delicate, wonderful textures)

                      California Chinese restaurants, especially Bay Area, are overrated. There may be more and of an overall higher quality (Cantonese restaurants), but when it comes to their top Chinese restaurants, NYC is just fine in comparison and has more variety.

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                        scoopG Jan 15, 2013 02:12 PM

                        I forgot about Hakkasan's dim sum, which I have not yet had yet.

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                          Lau Jan 15, 2013 07:21 PM

                          re: CB, i dont agree with that (although clearly a matter of personal opinion), KP is both more innovative (by a long shot) and definitely superior quality wise. i dont think they were in the same boat although i did like CB, i was on the verge of writing a pretty positive review and then they close unfortunately (i literally have half the review written out...oh well). Not going to get into the CA vs NY debate as I think you already know where i stand on that one.

                          re: Hakkasan - havent been yet, but its almost top of my list b/c a friend who's taste i trust recently told me that Hakkasan actually has very high quality dim sum (i think his exact words were this is lightyears better than other stuff in NY) and i dont have any negative predisposition about them or that its expensive. so very much looking forward to that

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                  Miss Needle Jan 14, 2013 03:42 PM

                  I think Jade has a wide variety of dim sum so I prefer it. But Lake Pavilion had the most tender tripe dish(the white, not brown one) I ever had.

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                    fourunder Jan 24, 2013 08:48 PM

                    Yesterday, i had to make a JFK Airport @ 1:30pm to pick up mys son coming back from a Barcelona/Paris trip....so naturally I headed to Flushing early to have Dim sum at jade Asian. I arrived at 11:30am and the place was nearly full....even as a single diner, they sat me at an 8-top all by myself. After a few minutes, I was joined by a young Chinese couple. Service was good and there was a good variety of items to satisfy, but not quite as plentiful as on a weekend visit. I was also given the choice of tea desired..the pot refilled twice, for a .60 charge per person.

                    It should be noted that during the week, small plates are on special for only $2/plate, dine-in only. If you ask for extra items and take them out, then you will pay full regular pricing. It's clearly stated on a printed menu/table tent.

                    The items were all great, but slightly under-seasoned for my tastes....not a problem and I still enjoyed my visit very much and meeting my new young friends, both who spoke very good English.

                     
                     
                     
                     
                     
                     
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                      Lau Jan 24, 2013 08:52 PM

                      wow u ate all of this by yourself?? haha nice work

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                        fourunder Jan 24, 2013 08:55 PM

                        $42 before tipping......six items for 12 bucks....the rest, full price....3.95/4.95 per plate.

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                          c oliver Nov 24, 2013 06:23 PM

                          Giving this a bump. You ate all that yourself?????

                          But, yeah, we ate there a few years ago and liked it a lot.

                3. shaogo Jan 24, 2013 09:07 PM

                  Asian Jewels -- the big restaurant on 39th St. (now near some troublesome construction) has their own parking lot and there are plenty of English-speakers there. The dim sum is wonderful albeit a bit more expensive -- but worth it.

                  Now, if you want a real taste of Flushing, go to Gu Shine also on 39th Ave but one must park in the municipal lot across from the Sheraton, on the same block. Gu Shine is traditional Taiwanese food. Of course, the Taiwanese eat dim sum as well. But this restaurant's as "authentic" as I've eaten here in the U.S. for Taipei-style Taiwanese food.

                  Recommended dishes: san bei gai (three cups chicken); chou tofu (stinky tofu -- only eat if you can stand it). Clam soup (don't remember the translation). You can also get a "soup and three" for very little money; Soup, maybe san bei gai, and beef with green veg.

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                    Lau Jan 25, 2013 05:54 AM

                    not meaning to shoot you down, but i find the food (including the dim sum) at Asian Jewels to be pretty mediocre; i dont think its much better than the places in the city (i think nom wah / DSGG are better than AJ actually)...don't think it's worth going to flushing for, Jade Asian etc is better

                    gu xiang on the other hand i like although not for their street food, if you stick to their stir fries and other non-street food taiwanese i think you'll do pretty well; i think their chou dou fu isn't stinky enough at all and a little too dry. However, the the clam soup and san bei ji are definitely two of the best dishes there
                    https://www.lauhound.com/2011/05/gu-x...

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                    budcar Apr 6, 2013 04:26 AM

                    This reply is really directed to one of Lau's replies to this Jan post. As a lover of dim sum for many years, I have sampled these wonderful delicacies in Manhattan, San Francisco, Orlando,Flushing and even a remote out of the way restaurant near Mohegan Sun. I know what is good, competent as you say, but what distinguishes this level of dimsum from what you consider great? I, too, appreciate all the effort and expertise you have put into the Flushing posts over the years.

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                      Lau Apr 6, 2013 05:47 AM

                      its strictly how it tastes on an absolute level

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                        fourunder Apr 6, 2013 10:24 AM

                        I'm going to add that while I appreciate your tastes, I do not always agree with them....just so your head doesn't explode from all the smoke.....and so that others will try places not on your hot list, whether you have reviewed them or not.

                        : 0 )

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                          howdini Apr 6, 2013 11:14 AM

                          l thought chowhound was all about everybody agreeing with everybody else on everything, all the time? Boy, am l in the wrong place! ;^)

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                            Lau Apr 6, 2013 12:27 PM

                            hey fourunder - no problem at all, i definitely dont expect everyone to agree with me, its just my opinion on something where there is no right or wrong after all. My gf who eats with me more than anyone else disagrees with me half the time; my ratings and lists of what's good would be completely different if i let her do the rating.

                            In fact i hope people disagree with me bc for example if everyone was just following my lead then you guys wouldn't be hitting all the northern chinese places in flushing that im somewhat less enamoured with, but some of the stuff people have found at these places is good stuff worthy of being discovered and clearly people enjoy it which the only thing that matters at the end of the day

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                              fourunder Apr 6, 2013 04:05 PM

                              You are a true gentleman....with wisdom beyond most.

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                                Lau Apr 7, 2013 07:42 AM

                                thanks!

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                        robinsilver Apr 16, 2013 12:49 PM

                        If you don't mind driving out to Long Island, there are 2 places that, in my opinion, have better dim sum than Flushing. The Orient in Bethpage, and Fortune Wheel in Levittown. If you get to them around 11:00, or even 11:30, you probably won't have to wait. One of the things I like is that most of their things are not fried, and they have a large variety of choices.

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                          budcar Apr 16, 2013 02:17 PM

                          Right you are. Both have good samplings of mostly steamed varieties of dim sum. Fortune Wheel has a greater selection than The Orient, but both are small compared to places like Jade Asian. They also serve only on weekends unless their policies have changed. If one lives on LI and is looking to avoid 20-30 miles of driving, they are tasty choices, but they are scant representations of a visit to a dimsum parlor.

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                          fourunder Jun 27, 2013 09:46 PM

                          So I had to make another early run to drop off family @ La Guardia this morning and luckily for me and the gang there was relatively very little traffic and was able to drop them off before 8:45 AM....with about an hour to kill before I needed to head back into New Jersey for my afternoon tee time in Basking Ridge, I thought I'd chance a trip over to Flushing for so early morning Dim Sum @ Jade Asian. Much to my disappointment, I found out they did not open until 10AM. Without knowing where else to go, I walked Main Street and found that Corner 28 was open and they had a small sampling of Dim sum available in the window where they normally sell the Duck Boa/Pancakes and skewers.....there were a half a dozen customers in line, so I walked inside to be pleasantly surprised to see a much larger selection.

                          Now I'm not here to tell you this was great Dim Sum, but it was fine for me to get my fix and it all looked well prepared presentation wise in the many steamers in the food line. My only complaint was it was underseasoned....I ordered five items and was given free coffee/tea for $11.50. Another pleasant surprise was the back dining area was air-conditioned on this hot summer morning.

                          Sorry, but no pics....the following is what I saw that was available and cheerfully served @ 9AM

                          * A half dozen stewed items.....including Pigs Knuckles and Duck Blood.

                          * Har gau (steamed shrimp dumplings)

                          * Chiu-chao fan guo (steamed dumpling with pork, shrimp, and peanuts):

                          * Shiu mai (open-topped steamed pork & shrimp dumplings)

                          * Haam sui gau: Deep-fried glutinous rice dumpling with pork

                          * Char siu bao (steamed barbecue pork-stuffed buns)

                          * Char siu sou (flaky barbecue pork-stuffed pastry)

                          * Lo baak gou (turnip cake)

                          * Lo mai gai (steamed glutinous rice)

                          * Fung zao (fried steamed chicken feet)

                          * Ngao yuk kau (meatballs)

                          * Dan tat (egg custard tart)

                          * Jin deui (fried glutinous rice balls)

                          * Ma lai go (Malaysian sponge cake)

                          * Haam sui gau ( Fried glutenous rice dumplings)

                          * Jui cai bau ( Fried chive dumpling)

                          They also had Congee, Noodle Soup bowls and/with The Roasted and Braised meats too.

                          I apologize in advance for my spelling and translations....

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                            Chandavkl Jun 28, 2013 09:54 AM

                            Good Kitchen on 37th Ave. opens at 9 am. Will do a separate posting later.

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                              fourunder Jun 29, 2013 09:30 AM

                              Good to know for the future.....thanks.

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