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Champagne Sales Down for 2012

zin1953 Dec 29, 2012 08:56 AM


  1. Veggo Dec 29, 2012 09:22 AM

    And I read that prosecco sales are up 9% - the new poor mans champagne for half the price.

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      zin1953 Dec 29, 2012 09:35 AM

      I've had lots of prosecco . . . and lots of cava, as well as lots of sparkling wines from California, Oregon, Washington, New Zealand, Australia, etc. . . . and they can be quite tasty prosecco, cava, sparkling wines, etc. but they are NOT Champagne, and never taste like Champagne . . . .

      1. re: zin1953
        laraffinee Dec 29, 2012 09:52 AM

        Yep, that's what I thought, but it may be a nice sparkling wine.

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          ChefJune Jan 9, 2013 11:43 AM

          Boy, do I agree with you, Jason! the other sparklings are nice, but not Champagne -- not in the same ballpark, imho.

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        laraffinee Dec 29, 2012 09:33 AM

        I just bought some Prosecco yesterday to see what that is all about. I have never had it and everyone at the grocery store was buying it yesterday.

        I love really good champagne, and have spent many good dinners with the Fleury family in France, because of the good fortune of having a mutual friend- (wonderful champagne producers!) -but I want to see what everyone is drinking. I will try the Prosecco this weekend.

        1. Veggo Dec 29, 2012 11:05 AM

          I gathered some stats and did some quick math which yielded a curious factiod: the average American adult drinks 3.6 ounces of Champagne per year.

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          1. re: Veggo
            zin1953 Dec 29, 2012 11:28 AM

            Damn, someone's not doing their job!

            (We open probably 3-4 cases a year in our house.)

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              Veggo Dec 29, 2012 11:48 AM

              That means 360 people, probably in the Salt Lake City area, are not enjoying any at all.

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            BigGeorge Jan 9, 2013 07:07 AM

            Lot of mediocre Champagne selling for high prices where I live.Some of the large producers non-vintage products seem to have declined in quality. It is hard to get bottles from small vineyards unless you are in a large city or have a good wine store nearby.Costly to order on-line for 1 or 2 bottles. I'd rather pay $10 for a bottle of good Prosecco than $40 for a bottle of mediocre Champagne.

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            1. re: BigGeorge
              zin1953 Jan 9, 2013 08:06 AM

              Yes, well, having no idea where you live . . .

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                ChefJune Jan 9, 2013 11:45 AM

                Actually, BigGeorge, if you live in a "small" market, there is quite a bit available on line. And GOOD Prosecco? doesn't cost $10, if that isn't an oxymoron.

                Franciacorta is good, but it's also pricy.

                1. re: BigGeorge
                  zin1953 Jan 9, 2013 12:09 PM

                  . . . and, FWIW, it's ALWAYS costly to order only one or two bottles online, no matter where you live.

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                    ChefJune Jan 9, 2013 12:15 PM

                    that's true...

                2. SWISSAIRE Jan 9, 2013 12:40 PM

                  The economic climate in France is rather dismal at the moment. That would reflect in 56 % of the sales drop in France.

                  Many of our friends and relatives, just across the frontier, are watching all expenditures and conserving. More are eating at home than at restaurants, as before.

                  Bear in mind that in the present state of political affairs, being wealthy, and consuming luxury goods, is not a good image to give at the moment. Better to appear frugal and financially conservative now, than celebratory.

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                  1. re: SWISSAIRE
                    john gonzales Jan 18, 2013 09:55 AM

                    This would bemy explanation as well. Though I was surprised that as much as 56% of all Champage is bought in France. I would have guessed half that. If indeed it's 56% share, then the French economy has to be responsible for the majority of the sales decline.
                    We certainly do our share for the U.S. market. popping at least 40 bottles/year. We'll prop some prosecco now and then, but I've never found one I really like and have liked a lot. It's good fo a warm day or some spicy fare. I do know that prosecco has definitely gained market share here in Cal.

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