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  1. that's not the only noted deli to close come 2013.
    Many more on the horizon.
    since when does a $14 sandwich still compute in these economic times?

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    1. re: carter

      But apparently Brent's is expanding...maybe they'll come to West LA!

      1. re: carter

        Since Son of a Gun charges $7 for 2 bites of a lobster slider? Rather have a $13 pastrami myself.

      2. I only went a few times, but I never thought the food was exceptional.... I'm sad that a place that's been around for decades is closing from a historical perspective, but....

        1. The food is mediocre at best and the prices are high for mediocre food.

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          1. re: flowergirl

            Well, so are lots of other places in LA that people would miss if they closed.
            The place was packed on Christmas, for those of us who don't partake and didn't want to travel to SGV, ...
            I'll miss a few things and, of course, just the familiar sight of that big sign on Pico. It'll be a sad day when the owner of the property decides to level it.

          2. Same thing everyone will say when Apple Pan shuts down in the next few years. I wasn't a frequent visitor to Juniors, but it was never "terrible." I even knew some of the faces in there for many years. However I've watched a half-dozen delis go out of business on the west side in the last 20 years or so and there were far better (imho) that deserved longevity in the face of "progress" or obsolescence. Sign of the times that mediocre just isn't acceptable to the fuss-n-feathers food crowd. Don't worry, that retail space at Juniors is big enough to house the next echo chamber or Old Navy. Everyone will get what they want. RIP Juniors.

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            1. re: cagey

              The Apple Pan's not going anywhere, they own the building.

              1. re: wienermobile

                (The only way that spot can survive, I'm afraid.)

              2. re: cagey

                Quote: "Sign of the times that mediocre just isn't acceptable to the fuss-n-feathers food crowd."

                Well, that might be part of it. I'd modify the statement to say that mediocre at moderately high prices (the place obviously isn't exorbitantly expensive) w/o any clear mitigating factors (nostalgia aside) isn't enough for the food crowd. ::shrug::

                BTW, I've been to the Apple Pan and liked it (more), although I'm not in a big hurry to go back there, either.

                Haven't lived on the westside all that long, but it did break my heart to see the Barnes and Noble get replaced w/ an Urban Home (::shudder::). But since that isn't about food, that's a different story entirely....

              3. Per this news report the owners said they have not served their last sandwich. I assume that means they will move elsewhere.

                http://www.myfoxla.com/video?clipId=8...

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                1. re: SIMIHOUND

                  That's encouraging. Thx for the update.

                  1. re: SIMIHOUND

                    Sure, if they can find the lease space they want, can afford and have the will....
                    It's not just the restaurant, to me, because obviously they're not the best of its kind.
                    It's the familiarity and the nostalgia...foodies in big cities are fickle and lots of them just don't have the nostalgia chip.

                    1. re: latindancer

                      They could check out the old Hamburger Hamlet-Crossroads BBQ location on Sepulveda and National....unless you think that's a cursed location?

                      1. re: wienermobile

                        <unless you think that's a cursed location?>

                        What is it with starry eyed restauranteurs who think their food is going to be 'the one' that breaks that curse?
                        There's a space on Melrose, in Beverly Hills (or is it Weho)
                        that , in the last 10 years, has had at least 4 restaurants come and go. Why do they take the chance?

                      2. re: latindancer

                        >>>foodies in big cities are fickle and lots of them just don't have the nostalgia chip.

                        Well summed up. That, and the fact that the landlord feels that space on Westwood Blvd. is worth more than a deli. (Witness what happened to Bit O' Scotland a couple blocks up past Olympic.)

                        1. re: cagey

                          Ah, Bit O' Scotland.
                          Pickle Bills.
                          Chez Puce.
                          La Barbara's.
                          Plato's.
                          Poppy's.
                          Kelbo's.
                          Ship's.
                          R.I.P.

                          1. re: mc michael

                            the ships on la cienega served the most incredible scrambled eggs:
                            firm but not at all rubbery.
                            NO brown spots.
                            not dry but not runny either.
                            not at all greasy.

                            perfection.

                            if ships were still in business today, i'd still be at their counter making my toast myself in one of the toasters they had on the counter.

                            1. re: westsidegal

                              Not just toasters on the counter....toasters on every table.

                              1. re: wienermobile

                                the combination of simple, perfectly done, scrambled eggs that were still hot/warm when they arrived in front of you, and hot perfectly toasted bread, still holds a spot in my heart.
                                RIP ships.

                                1. re: westsidegal

                                  if i'm not mistaken the sign is still there for ship's at least.

                                  1. re: kevin

                                    the sign may still be there, but i believe that the location is being used by an autobody/ automobile customizing business

                                    1. re: kevin

                                      I don't think the sign is there any longer but Ship's actually has a working website http://www.shipscoffeeshop.com/ that includes a section about where Mr. Ship likes to eat. One of the places listed is near where the Olympic and La Cienega Ship's was located called Neli's Catering and Restaurant http://www.neliscatering.com/ I found one mention of Neli's in a post by Jase http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8264... but no actual reviews of the restaurant by anyone who has tried it as far as I could find.

                                      1. re: Servorg

                                        Thought I had posted something on Neli's. it's a solid lunch and breakfast place. Very friendly people, food prepared fresh, good price to quantity ratio for the quality. The one caveat is they wrap everything up very tightly for to go orders. Great for stability but it will steam and items get soggy fast. I learned to rip the plastic wrap off my breakfast burritos right away before driving to the office.

                                  2. re: mc michael

                                    Unfortunately never made it to Bit O' Scotland that the Jacoby's owned before opening John O'Groats. Never made it to Pickle Bills, Chez Puce, Plato's or Poppy's either. Now La Barbara's was my older sisters favorite pizza back in the day but she always got the one with every ingredient on the list, not my idea of good pizza even back then. Kelbo's served Zombies and Scorpions, rum based drinks that I enjoyed with their tasty appetizers back when I was just old enough to drink! The Ship's on Wilshire Bl. and the other one on La Cienega were my grannies favorites, she too liked to control her own toast production. I liked the 'Ship Shape Burger' and deep dish boysenberry pie back then but there are so many better options today!

                                    1. re: sel

                                      That boysenberry pie was the greatest. Well, at the time it was.

                                      1. re: sel

                                        Pickle Bills was great, their gravy was fantastic, too bad it is long gone, replaced by a stupid McDonalds.

                                      2. re: mc michael

                                        I really miss Ships ... the famed Ship Shape Hamburger. The Westwood location that I grew up with.

                                        And La Barbara's.

                                            1. re: Thor123

                                              Josephina's Pizza was much better IMHO

                                                  1. re: Thor123

                                                    Since that's not possible (to be wrong about a matter of taste) let's just say that MG marches to the beat of his own pizza maker...

                                                    1. re: Servorg

                                                      Thanks, servorg. Both were excellent pizzas; just 2 different styles.

                                                      1. re: mucho gordo

                                                        It is sacrilege to even compare Josephina's to La Barbara's, Not that Josephina's was bad, its just that nothing comes close to what was La Barbara's.

                                          1. re: mc michael

                                            I still miss Ed Debevic's for some reason ...

                                        1. re: latindancer

                                          i'm one of the foodies that doesn't have a nostalgia chip.

                                          if something comes along that tastes much better and costs about the same or less, i go to the new place.

                                          i stopped eating pink slime years before i stopped eating meat altogether.

                                          1. re: westsidegal

                                            Then you know what you're missing. Cheers. Not a fan of pink slime myself, but neither am I a fan of overpriced seal food on a cracker. Different chips I suppose.

                                            1. re: cagey

                                              the stuff i thought was great when i was in college, such as hamburgers that contained 30% lard, no longer cut it.

                                              the stuff that i thought was good when i was in my early 20's, such as burritos/enchiladas made with slabs of molten commercial cheddar cheese, are disgusting to me now.

                                              once i tried food that had been cooked using spices from penzey's, the spice island stuff in the supermarket no longer cut it.

                                              1. re: westsidegal

                                                Ok, you have a point. (I went to the Hat yesterday for the first time in years, and I'm still suffering from a grease bomb overload. Doesn't translate well into an age-advancing gastric tract.)

                                                I do have fond memories of Junior's matzo ball soup, but it's been many years (and there are other spots out there cover that base much better).

                                                1. re: cagey

                                                  i have fond memories of buying 50 breakfast pastries at a time from Juniors to bring to the office to celebrate every time i made a sale.... . .

                                                  those pastries from Juniors let all the sales support people know that their efforts were not being taken for granted.

                                                  that said, though, if i were to need 50 breakfast pastries today, i'd probably go to Manhattan Bread and Bagel.. . . .

                                                  1. re: cagey

                                                    I had Junior's deliver one of their breakfast burritos (called Dave's burrito) to me a couple of weeks a ago. I have the scrambled eggs cooked easy and I add avocado. Really good. It comes with a container of salsa and one of sour cream. They also have (soon to be had) really excellent chocolate chip croissants (from somewhere else I'm assuming). And their matzo ball soup is still terrific. One of my favorite desserts has been their pound cake sundae with vanilla ice cream (just using their plain pound cake) with hot fudge substituted for the normal chocolate sauce. Whipped cream and nuts and a cherry completed the deal.

                                              2. re: westsidegal

                                                I'm Sorry....didn't mean to sound insulting, it's not where I'm coming from, at all. I agree with what you're saying, for the most part and good food, above all else, is what's ultimately important.
                                                I'm just one of those people who was sad to see Hamburger Hamlet, on Sunset, disappear and can't get over some of the places disappearing where there was/is this "everyone knows your name" kind of place. The food wasn't all that fabulous, certainly not a foodie's dream, comfort food for the most part, but I could come in the door and the table was ready or the bar if it was one of those times when I needed it and the bartender knew their clients and what they needed. There are so many places, like this, nonexistant anymore. To me, it's just sad to see them go.

                                                1. re: latindancer

                                                  i've been known to follow bartenders from place to place not necessarily because the replacement bartender's martini is inferior.
                                                  i totally GET the sentiment, and, in that respect, am totally with you.
                                                  the sentiment you are talking about is the reason that the closest acceptable martini to playa del rey is, to me, to be found in santa monica.
                                                  has nothing really to do with the martini itself. . . .

                                                  i draw the line at food, though.
                                                  if i'm going to deal with the caloric consequences, the food really has to be worth it. . . .