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Opening late spring 2013

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  1. Thanks. This could be some very good pizza news. Coal oven too! Is this where where the old Daily Grill was on Rosecrans Blvd? Has anyone had their pizza at any of their locations outside of Brooklyn and if so is it the same quality?

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    1. re: wienermobile

      2121 Rosecrans Ave, I believe it is the old Daily Grill location.
      I thought because of the clean air laws they could not do the coal ovens here in California. Glad I was wrong.

      1. re: wienermobile

        Ive had pies at Brooklyn, Vegas and Scottsdale sites...Vegas was as good as Brooklyn...I havent been to the Brooklyn site in 7 or 8 years but i always had a great pie there...I tried to upload a foto of a pie i had in Vegas 3 yearss ago..a margherita with sausage...it was great! i oredered another for the Road back to LA....I made it home; the pie didnt survive to Baker! Scottsdale was lacking..good but not great!

        1. re: lapizzamaven

          http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives...

          1. re: Servorg

            Wow, Wow Servorg...did you link to my review of Grimaldi's on Serious Eats/Slice? i was having trouble even uploading one of those fotos...thank you! I think im off to Vegas for a few days!

            1. re: Servorg

              Wow, that looks much better than the original Brooklyn joint. Among all the coal fired pizza places in NYC, Grimaldi's was by far the most mediocre.

              1. re: E Eto

                Agree that the original Brooklyn joint was very mediocre.

                Grimaldi's opening in Vegas is more for profit from tourists and not for any laxity in clean air laws.

            2. re: lapizzamaven

              I found the Vegas location good but not as good as Brooklyn Grimaldi's. The tomato sauce was not as bright and vibrant and the crust flatter in Vegas compared to Brooklyn. The cheese seemed a little different too. In Brooklyn the cheese was brighter, almost fluorescent.

          2. Interesting.

            I thought the reasons they were opening restaurants in the middle of nowhere (i.e. isolated desert cities like Phoenix and Vegas) was because the pollution laws were a great deal more lax there than in California. Is this no longer the case, or have I misunderstood?

            Mr Taster

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            1. re: Mr Taster

              I thought so too. I remember when Mozza was first looking for a location they had a problem with the City of Los Angeles because of their wood burning ovens at some of the locations they considered. The reason they chose the Melrose and Highland location was because their oven was grandfathered in from the previous Italian restaurant at the site.
              This is from Grimaldi's own web site: "Signature Brick Oven - Designed and built by hand, the coal-fired oven at Grimaldi's Pizzeria delivers a unique flavor and consistency that is just not possible from wood or gas ovens. Weighing in at 25 tons and heated by 100 pounds of coal per day (cleanest burning fuel available and environmentally tested), the oven heats up to 1200 degrees. We also purchase special coal from Pennsylvania called anthracite. It actually burns cleaner and more Eco-friendly than gas or wood-fired methods. Every month we ship the coal in by railroad and distribute to our locations."

              Maybe El Segundo has less stringent AQMD regulations then the City of LA?

              1. re: wienermobile

                "Maybe El Segundo has less stringent AQMD regulations then the City of LA?"

                They already have the Chevron refinery so they must have figured, "What could this possibly hurt?"

                1. re: Servorg

                  very true.

                  1. re: Servorg

                    "Maybe El Segundo has less stringent AQMD regulations then the City of LA?"

                    Can't attest to that, wiener, but I'll still suggest Grimaldi's to my husband the next time we have lunch together. He works in El Segundo, so that could be a pretty viable lunch spot for us to check out.

              2. If it's anything like the one in Phoenix, then move along. Nothing to see here.

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                1. re: ipsedixit

                  I don't know. Here is a photo from AZ: http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/grimal...

                  1. re: Servorg

                    So by showing a photo of burned pizza, you're attempting to illustrate... what? :)

                    Mr Taster

                    1. re: Mr Taster

                      I wasn't attempting to illustrate anything...since this is a photo. ;-D> And beauty really is in the eye of the beholder because to me this photo is delightful food porn that makes my mouth water...

                      1. re: Servorg

                        that ain't burnt in my book of pizza! looks like most of the great pies ive had of theirs...in Vegas anyway..the pies ive had(twice) in Scottsdale though its been a few years didnt look as good (and didnt taste that good either) as yours, Servorg....

                    2. re: Servorg

                      I believe it is the same folks that own the one in PHX

                    3. re: ipsedixit

                      Never tried the Phoenix one. On the other hand, if it's anything like the ones in Las Vegas, bring it on. It will be the best NY style pizza in LA hands down. Much better than my favorite Vito's.

                      Apparently the "clean coal" they're using passes the AQMD regulations.

                      1. re: Ogawak

                        If they want to be a success in El Segundo, the food quality better be top notch. El Segundo isn't a revolving door of idiot tourists like Vegas, or the land of mouth breathers like Scottsdale. They will need to rely on repeat business from patrons who know world class pizza.

                      2. re: ipsedixit

                        If it's anything like the one in Vegas, I'm going to haul my ass out to South Bay on opening day.

                        It obviously won't replicate Brooklyn exactly, but look at our alternatives -- Vito's? Joe's? And... Mozza?

                        1. re: TonyC

                          Pavich's in San Pedro is a great alternative

                          1. re: Ernie

                            Wouldnt consider Pavich's a great alternative unless youre lookin for another ethnicity's take on pizza...good but not the same animal...

                            1. re: lapizzamaven

                              Does that also exclude Mozza's Jewish-Croatian-Latino take on pizza?

                              1. re: Ernie

                                Well, if Pavich's was better, id consider it a great alternative to sumthin'... i was kinda disappointed...Mozza is a pizza flavor bomb no matter what you wanna call it!

                                1. re: lapizzamaven

                                  "Overhyped" is what comes to mind when I think of Mozza. It is good, but I found their toppings meager and not up to the hype. Pavich's sausage, for example, tastes fresher and more abundant than Mozza's version which has a few stingy bits of dried out and overcooked sausage.

                                  1. re: Ernie

                                    I usually get a margherita w/ sausage added at Mozza's and its never been anything remotely described as stingy and dried out...no overhyping here...had a margherita at Pavichs a while ago...crust was not a pizza crust....will give them another shot...i hear the meats good!

                                    1. re: lapizzamaven

                                      Pavich's crust is most certainly a pizza crust. Try Pavich's sausage next time and I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

                            2. re: Ernie

                              vs. Grimaldi's? Been to Pavich's couple of times. That ain't no NY pizza (by whatever the definition).

                              1. re: TonyC

                                No one said it was a NY pizza, just an alternative.

                                1. re: Ernie

                                  Only NY pizzas were listed in my reply, with Mozza as the ironic Jewish-Latino-LA pie. Purgatory, Pizzanista, and Garage can all be considered the "NY" slice style (Baker's pride double deck).

                                  AFAIC, this entire thread is about NY pizza.

                                  1. re: TonyC

                                    The irony escapes me. Pineapple and ranch sauce (Purgatory), seitan and vegan cheese (Pizzanista) and barbecue chicken (Garage) don't strike me as very New York style AFAIC.

                                    1. re: Ernie

                                      Garage is definitely NY style pizza. They even (or at least used to) advertise that they use NY water to take the crust.

                                      1. re: Servorg

                                        They may advertise themselves as NY style, but you would be hard pressed to find toppings such as their ground beef, pineapple, vegan cheese, and barbecue sauce at traditional NY pizzerias

                                        1. re: Ernie

                                          Just for instance, Famous Original Ray's offers bbq sauce and pineapple...

                                          1. re: Servorg

                                            Just because they're located in NY doesn't make them NY style pizza... although growing up in 70s and 80s in NJ, many local pizzerias offered what we felt was a "crazy' option of Hawaiian pizza (ham and pineapple) but it was more an anomaly that one might order for a party, rather than a regular weeknight pizza order.

                                            Mr Taster

                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                              So Famous Original Ray's is not NY style pizza? That made me laugh...so thanks for the levity.

                                              http://www.kevineats.com/2008/12/famo...

                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                Agreed, Mr. Taster. In my pantheon of what I consider traditional NY-style pizza (e.g., Grimaldi's, John's of Bleeker St, Lombardi's) you will not find those toppings available.

                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                  It's strictly tourist pizza... no New Yorker worth their salt eats pizza from any of the multitude of Midwestern quality imposter "Ray's".

                                                  Sadly, the real Ray's appears to have gone out of business as of a year ago... have not researched to see if they've reopened.

                                                  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/nyr...

                                                  Mr Taster

                                                  1. re: Mr Taster

                                                    Just a bit hyperbolic...

                                                    This is from the vantage of someone who's only lived in Queens for a hot second, but the Villagers went to (Famous/Original) Ray's when they want a slice. I'd take the dog on a walk, buy 2 slices at Ray's (or Joe's, if I felt lazy), then throw his butt into the Wash Sq dog park. Other New Yorkers have been doing that since at least 1964-ish(?) OTOH, LA didn't start arguing over Neapolitan "authenticness" until Antica opened until 1992?

                                                    Sometimes the best anything is just the closest one? Especially cuz you're slogging through the snow n shit.

                                                    1. re: TonyC

                                                      Oh yeah, that one in the Village at 6th Ave and 11th St was great (called "Famous Ray's", which is VERY different and unaffiliated with the the slophouse called "Famous Original Ray's" referenced in Kevineats' blog). Apparently "Famous Ray's" is gone now, too.

                                                      Mr Taster

                                          2. re: Servorg

                                            I tried it once, sup-par at best.

                                            DiFara's is the way to go.

                                            1. re: kevin

                                              Garage is an LA pizza place. I don't know of a DiFara's branch out here...

                                2. re: TonyC

                                  How about Garage Pizza?

                                  1. re: Servorg

                                    meh! for Garage Pizza..its ok if you neeed a slice...

                                    1. re: lapizzamaven

                                      Agree. And sometimes, depending on location, time, etc. Pizzanista has equally good of a slice, Purgatory a bit behind them. The great thing about Garage downtown is that they have beer with those slices. Finally!

                                      That said, it's not "bad", it's just nowhere near as good as a half-assed Grimaldi's.

                                      1. re: TonyC

                                        Have you changed your opinion on Garage Pizza? I thought I read another review you did that was extremely positive? (Unless my memory is slipping - which I'm sure is true)

                                        1. re: Servorg

                                          Still enjoy the Silver Lake locale for the BYOB, but the downtown slice just wasn't that good last time...

                                          Pizzanista is a lot closer (for me), and they have great bottled ginger beer/root beer from realsoda.com so that's where I am these days, especially because Tony's runs a Pizzanista slice/draft beer combo during happy hour.

                                  2. re: TonyC

                                    Beyond pessimistically, I feel it is going to be more like the one in Scottsdale.

                                  3. re: ipsedixit

                                    I agree. I have only tried their Scottsdale location, and fuck it, if I'm in NY I'm either going to Patsy's in East Harlem, or the incomparable DiFara's or maybe Lombardi's, near LIttle Italy.

                                    1. re: kevin

                                      @Kevin, i dont know the last time you were at Lombardi's but its been nearly 10 years since their pizza declined into tourist friendly stuff...Grimaldis in Brooklyn, at least up to 2006, never served me a less than spectacular pie! i hear DiFara's aint worth the hasssle anymore either...

                                      1. re: kevin

                                        There is actually a Di Fara location in Las Vegas under the name Dom Demarcos. I have never been but it sure sounds tempting, and from what I have heard it is pretty good.

                                        As for the Grimaldi's, please let it be like the Vegas locations, specifically the one on Eastern Ave.

                                        1. re: A5 KOBE

                                          agreed! the Eastern ave location was the real deal!

                                          1. re: A5 KOBE

                                            I tried the faux Di Fara a month or so ago.

                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8776...

                                            Mr Taster

                                            1. re: Mr Taster

                                              Get the fuck out.

                                              There's a DiFara's outpout in Vegas ???

                                              Never thought I'd see the day.

                                      2. wow great news!!! we eat at grimaldi's everytime we go to vegas and have brought pizzas home as well. their house salad is great too.

                                        1. this is fantastic news!

                                          not so much for my diet though

                                          1. Where does Nicky D's in Silverlake fall into this comparison for NY pizza?

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                                            1. re: Searching4Dunny

                                              2 pies at Nicky D's did not satisfy me on my one( and only) visit! soggy crusts ruined it for me...another waste of a nice oven!

                                              1. re: lapizzamaven

                                                My crust wasn't soggy at all, and I took it to go, for about a half hour ride......

                                              2. re: Searching4Dunny

                                                sadly, Nicky D's falls into the category of "defunct", as of about two months ago...

                                                1. re: silverlakebodhisattva

                                                  Oh really? Last time I got a pie to go from them, it had one table at prime lunchtime....

                                                  1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                    more like an hour and a half ride, right ????? :)

                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                      Ha ha, certainly could have been! Lemme tell ya, it was pure torture to not be able to dig in while driving ;)

                                                      1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                        You shoulda grabbed two. One for the ride down and one for the fam. :)

                                                        And no one would be the wiser.

                                                        I still have to hit up Grimalds.

                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                          It was the white clam sauce pie, a bit greasy, but not soggy. I didn't want to drip grease on my suede seats.... I did eat a Mozza pie on the way home once....couldn't help myself. Not easy to do when driving, and trying to keep my clothes clean, don't recommend it.

                                                          1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                            I hear you.

                                                            I always get sauce all over my clothes. I may just be the messiest eater known to man.

                                                            As a writer once said, if you can wear the same shirt to both lunch and dinner then you are a better man than me.

                                                          2. re: kevin

                                                            Do they have liquor there? Or at least wine & beer? I could hit them up for an early lunchtime happy hour.....

                                                            1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                              Liquor at Grimaldis ?

                                                              Sorry I got confused in te thread bc I keep digressing.

                                                              Anyhow , if you mean Grimaldis in El Segundo, I'm pretty certain their a beer/wine joint but not full liquor license joint.

                                                              Though I could wrong, severely wrong, as oft happens.

                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                beer & wine only @ Grimaldi's

                                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                                  that was my thinking without batting an eyelash.

                                                                  Have you gone yet, my main man ?????

                                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                                    Thanks, Servorg. That will work for me.

                                                            2. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                              I hear you. When I pick up pizzas for work from Petrillo's the smell is overwhelmingly good.

                                                              1. re: JAB

                                                                Yeah. I shoulda stopped by petrillos after al and Beas.

                                                    2. Interesting article in the Daily Breeze link below re: Grimaldi's. The Ciollo family bought the "Grimaldi" naming rights, while the original Patsy Grimaldi still runs his own separate pizza place in Brooklyn.

                                                      As someone who hasn't been able to make it to Brooklyn to try the best NY pizzas, Grimaldi's in Las Vegas (4-5 locations now) has really filled the need. I'm jealous, though, of all you who have been to places like DiFara's, It's on my bucket list.

                                                      http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_2231774...

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                                                      1. re: Ogawak

                                                        Dom Demarco's in Vegas is supposedly owned by Di Fara. I have never been but have been itching to try it ever since they opened.

                                                        1. re: A5 KOBE

                                                          Me too.

                                                          I crazy want to try it. That's almost reason enough to visit LV.

                                                        2. re: Ogawak

                                                          FYI from the Daily Breeze "the Rosecrans Avenue pizzeria will be the first of six planned California locations."

                                                          1. re: Ogawak

                                                            This explains why the Las Vegas location of Grimaldi's, while good, is not the same amazing pizza you get in Brooklyn.

                                                            1. re: Ernie

                                                              Have to disagree, Ernie...the pies i had in Vegas were as good as Brooklyn! dont think Brooklyn Grimaldi's is up to its former quality, either sadly!

                                                              1. re: lapizzamaven

                                                                I have had better pies in LV due to the Brooklyn location being full to capacity and cooling the oven stones too much. I found it to be a place to go once, marvel at the atm outside and the line of people and that is about it.

                                                            2. re: Ogawak

                                                              Is that the Merrill Shindler restaurant review ?????

                                                            3. Their sign is up but says Open Summer 2013, so we still have a bit of a wait.

                                                              1. The Corporate Office for Grimaldi's in Scottsdale AZ just said they are now projecting a Fall 2013 opening for the El Segundo location.

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                                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                                  Darn.

                                                                  1. re: Servorg

                                                                    I guess we will just have to settle for the utterly dreadful Mozza.

                                                                    1. re: Servorg

                                                                      Corporate is now saying that they are "hoping" for an opening of the El Segundo location either the end of August or the beginning of September. Still no phone number being posted, published or given out for El Segundo.

                                                                      1. re: Servorg

                                                                        Shit.

                                                                        I thought your post was regarding news that it had opened.

                                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                                          I think we'd know if it opened. You'd be able to see the line stretching down Sepulveda to Marina Del Rey. :) Can't wait for that crush to die down, if and when.

                                                                          1. re: cagey

                                                                            "You'd be able to see the line stretching down Sepulveda to Marina Del Rey."

                                                                            Adding another hound to that line would be like carrying coal to El Segundo..while drinking a Newcastle Ale.

                                                                            1. re: Servorg

                                                                              So, when does the El Segundo location open up????

                                                                              1. re: bringiton

                                                                                They are now saying first quarter 2014.

                                                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                                                  More likely it will be open around the time "The Subway to the Sea" opens up shoppe.

                                                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                                                    You came to talk bad foot long sandwiches by the beach? ;-D>

                                                                    2. Grimaldi's El Segundo is scheduled to open today.
                                                                      2121 Rosecrans Ave, Ste. 1399
                                                                      El Segundo, Ca
                                                                      Phone: 310-648-7503

                                                                      1. went with 4 other former New Yorkers on a whim thurs night. was it the same as the og, no. that would be unreasonable to expect. but we all smiled, it made us happy. it was good. interesting risk averse choice to put it where they did but from a strictly biz standpoint I'm sure it makes sense. I will be back when I'm in the area.

                                                                        1. It's a hit. Drove by today at 12:20pm and a very very long line snaked out the front door.

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                                                                          1. re: wienermobile

                                                                            dann. I haven't tired it yet. Though I did have Al and Beas for lunch just know.

                                                                            1. re: wienermobile

                                                                              And its damn good! best NY style pizza in Cali, IMHO!