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sandylc Dec 18, 2012 05:46 PM

Do you crave delicious, dark, bittersweet chocolate, or do you wimp out and eat chalky milk chocolate (deliberately provacative)?

Defend your viewpoint.

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    latindancer Feb 12, 2013 10:44 AM

    Dark. Of course.
    Doesn't everyone?
    Only a true chocoholic goes for dark.

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      MacGuffin Feb 12, 2013 10:49 AM

      Too narrow for me. I like both; it depends on my mood.

    2. Bob W Feb 11, 2013 08:57 AM

      I never really thought about it. I guess I like the flavor of chocolate, and dark chocolate tastes more like chocolate than milk chocolate.

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        afridgetoofar Feb 9, 2013 09:54 AM

        I'm not a fan of chocolate for its own sake. Like others here, I see the merits of different types of chocolate when combined with other flavors. As I age I'm losing my sweet tooth altogether, but when younger a favorite confection was a dark chocolate truffle blanketed in white chocolate then rolled in coconut. White chocolate also goes well with tart strawberries, so does dark chocolate. I do occasionally enjoy Lindt dark chocolate bars with orange filling, but once a year at Christmas I'm irresistibly drawn to buy and eat a box of Queen Anne milk chocolate covered cordial cherries, cheap and so, so sweet but it's a sentimental splurge. I still like chocolate covered almonds, either milk or dark. A small square of very bitter dark chocolate is actually pretty good with a glass of rich red wine. And so on.

        Just don't get me started on apples. I'm fiercely partisan to my favorite variety of apple. Chocolate, meh. SO's the chocoholic.

        1. John E. Feb 8, 2013 09:13 PM

          I prefer dark chocolate. Aldi sells a decent sized dark chocolate bar for $1.49 (I think). I'm currently in Arizona and discovered that Fresh & Easy has a package of three dark chocolate bars made in Belgium (about 1.75 ounces each) on sale for .99 cents. I just cannot go back to Hersey's chocolate.

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            Violatp Feb 9, 2013 10:27 AM

            The Aldi nearest to me was just selling the organic Green & Black bars for $2.49! Dark and milk w/ almonds. Who knows how and why they got a supply in, but I know that's a great price for Green & Black.

          2. Jpan99 Feb 8, 2013 01:44 PM

            Both. But never white.

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              pedalfaster Feb 8, 2013 01:39 PM

              Both.
              It's kind of like asking "red or white?"(wine).
              Both have their appropriate usage.

              1. rockandroller1 Feb 8, 2013 01:27 PM

                Mr. RNR recently brought out a dish from the pantry that had about 15 dark chocolate bars with one or two pieces out of them at the most. I have to confess that I just don't like it, and after one piece I put it away because I don't want anymore. Then I see a bar in the store that looks good, buy it and repeat all over again. I just keep buying it because I'm SUPPOSED to like it, because it's proper and not pedestrian and good for you in a way that milk chocolate isn't.

                But you know what? I don't like it. I quit buying those bars.

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                  laskiblue Dec 21, 2012 04:17 PM

                  I've always preferred dark chocolate simply because I like it better. I keep a 85% Lindt bar for my nibbling pleasure in my fridge at all times. I am fortunate that my local Grocery Outlet stocks them for $1.99.

                  1. Bacardi1 Dec 21, 2012 03:47 PM

                    Dark only. And as someone else already posted - the darker the better. I find milk (& "white") chocolate too sweet & on the insipid side.

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                      Toni6921 Dec 21, 2012 09:11 AM

                      I use chocolate primarily for baking, and I prefer the dark bittersweet chocolate chips, because they are a nice counterpoint to a sweet cookie dough.

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                        knucklesandwich Dec 21, 2012 07:43 AM

                        Milk chocolate is faster. Dark chocolate is longer.

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                          lastZZ Dec 21, 2012 12:04 AM

                          Go to Aldi. Buy unsweetened chocolate squares. Melt with a sweeter (honey or maple syrup) and a pinch of salt. Wait for it to cool and mature a few hours. Eat with a baked apple. Or a ripe raw banana.
                          This chocolate comes out darker and less sweet than anything in stores

                          1. jmcarthur8 Dec 20, 2012 10:59 PM

                            I really really love to pop a Dove Promise milk chocolate in my mouth and just let it dissolve in the roof of my mouth.

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                              DuchessNukem Dec 20, 2012 11:18 PM

                              Seriously agree. Better than a live reading of "50 Shades of Grey". ;)

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                                jmcarthur8 Dec 21, 2012 03:57 PM

                                My coworker gave me a copy of that last week. I haven't started it yet, but maybe I should get some Dove Promises and double my fun.

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                              sandylc Dec 20, 2012 09:52 AM

                              I have read that with chocolate, the percentage of chocolate liquor in the end product is not necessarily proportionate to the amount of sugar in it. Different brands that are all, say, 60%, can have different amounts of sugar.

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                                cheesemaestro Dec 20, 2012 09:59 AM

                                True up to a point. It's also true that they can have different amounts of cocoa solids, since the percentage is the sum of the cocoa solids (what gives the product its chocolatey flavor) and cocoa butter. Thus one 60% bar may have more cocoa solids and less cocoa butter than another (or vice-versa).

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                                Wawsanham Dec 20, 2012 07:49 AM

                                Why do you say milk chocolate is "chalky"? It can be absolutely smooth.
                                Personally, I prefer milk chocolate. But, I totally respect dark chocolate. Just a subjective taste thing!

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                                  sandylc Dec 20, 2012 09:49 AM

                                  I would say that my word choice of "chalky" was probably not perfect; it was in reference to the taste rather than the texture.

                                2. Chemicalkinetics Dec 20, 2012 12:17 AM

                                  While I enjoy both and buy both, I will spare you the pain of a non-answer. I prefer dark chocolate. As for why, I can ensure you that I can give you a 15 points arguments for the dark, but ultimately it is simply because I enjoy one over the other.

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                                    mugen Dec 19, 2012 10:59 PM

                                    If I want chocolate, I eat chocolate with ~90% cocoa solids. If I want a sugar hit, I eat white chocolate or dark chocolate with a lower proportion of cocoa solids. There is no complexity and it is excessively sweet to me, but that's personal preference. Eat whatever makes you happy.

                                    1. EWSflash Dec 19, 2012 07:07 PM

                                      Dark. Always, the darker the better. Not a big chocoholic but if Almond Joy had dark chocolate it would be the perfect food. Only if it had more amonds on top.

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                                        Justpaula Dec 19, 2012 07:11 PM

                                        I have always felt that we were somehow being cheated by not getting to have dark chocolate AND almonds with our coconut, hee, hee!

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                                          bbqboy Dec 19, 2012 07:27 PM

                                          hmmm. I'd swear those really do exist. Or at least did in a limited edition.

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                                            ipsedixit Dec 19, 2012 07:53 PM

                                            They do.

                                            http://www.candycritic.org/almondjoyc...

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                                          cheesecake17 Dec 19, 2012 06:41 PM

                                          Neither for me. I'm probably the minority, but I just don't care for chocolate. The only time ill go for a bite is if I want something sweet and there's nothing else. But always milk chocolate. Dark chocolate = shudder

                                          1. bbqboy Dec 19, 2012 04:03 PM

                                            Endangered Species was a small company here in my small town of Talent in Southern Oregon. Owner was my daughter's Volleyball coach. He sold out to other folks
                                            and they moved everything lock, stock, and barrel to Indiana.
                                            Here's a nifty bar from a company that is still local, Lilliebelle.
                                            Chocolate and Chile.
                                            Can't beat it.
                                            http://www.lilliebellefarms.com/pilot...

                                             
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                                              Justpaula Dec 19, 2012 06:34 PM

                                              Well, respectfully....local to *you*.

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                                                bbqboy Dec 19, 2012 06:55 PM

                                                Local in that their farm where the berries grow to wonderfulness is located here, along with their chocolate "factory", located smack next door to Rogue Creamery,
                                                where they turn out their delicious goods. They have started distributing to a few select retail outlets around the globe, including this intriguing shoe/chocolate store in Baltimore-
                                                http://www.mapetiteshoe.com/

                                                They were entirely mail order or walk in previously.

                                                On tonight's local news:
                                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=...
                                                Dagoba is still made in Ashland but was bought by Hershey a few years back.
                                                Not sure why we attracted so many chocolate artisans in the last 20 years.

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                                              jbsiegel Dec 19, 2012 12:43 PM

                                              Like both (although really don't like super dark). I pretty much will eat any chocolate in any form OTHER than fruit or liquor filled truffles. Really don't like those at all. I think I prefer dark chocolate truffles, but milk chocolate when it's "plain."

                                              I'm also not picky on brands. I have to confess to loving Russell Stover (except those darned ones with the pink nutty stuff in the middle and the orange cream ones) as well as the high end brands...

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                                                Violatp Dec 19, 2012 12:37 PM

                                                I'll eat the occasional dark or bittersweet, but chances are I won't enjoy it. Far too bitter for my palate. Milk all the way!

                                                1. Disneyfreak Dec 19, 2012 12:25 PM

                                                  Dark please. Although reading through the other responses I realize that I will sometimes eat some milk chocolate. The issue is the sweetness -- and I do have a huge sweet tooth -- but I find Hershey milk just too cloyingly sweet for me.

                                                  I will eat M&Ms/Reese's Pieces without complaining but given my choice I will reach for the dark chocolate everytime.

                                                  1. mcel215 Dec 19, 2012 12:17 PM

                                                    Dark chocolate for me....

                                                    Don't know why, but the only over the counter candy bar I love is a Twix, milk chocolate and all...... I never buy it though.

                                                    www.saffron215.blogspot

                                                    1. Will Owen Dec 19, 2012 12:07 PM

                                                      Another bi-chocolater here. Hell, give me a Hershey bar, I'll eat it. When I was a kid I'd snitch chunks of unsweetened cooking chocolate and nibble on them for a week; my first major non-native chocolate discovery was the Van Houten Orange chocolate bars, and Cadbury's Caramello was pretty damn fine too. As for that white stuff, I would not eat any by itself, but I like the chunks in those macadamia cookies.

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                                                        Justpaula Dec 19, 2012 12:17 PM

                                                        I have to admit that my favorite of the Lindt balls are the white chocolate ones.

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                                                          jbsiegel Dec 19, 2012 12:41 PM

                                                          Mine are the peanut butter ones and the stracciatella ones!

                                                      2. mucho gordo Dec 19, 2012 11:22 AM

                                                        Dark chocolate only for me. I don't like the taste the other leaves in my mouth. Maybe it's my lactose intolerance.

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                                                          Harters Dec 19, 2012 11:18 AM

                                                          70% cocoa solids for me.

                                                          I've not seen the point of milk chocolate since I was child.

                                                          1. lisavf Dec 19, 2012 10:47 AM

                                                            Dark chocolate almost exclusively. Exception: M&Ms. Bonus: eating just a little bit tastes so luxurious and satisfying, I'm rarely tempted to overindulge.

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                                                              jujuthomas Dec 19, 2012 10:09 AM

                                                              i grew up a Hershey's girl - all the way - I've now seen the error of my ways... and gravitate to at least slightly better brands. :) I keep bags of Dove chocolate bites around all the time to satisfy immediate chocolate needs, love cadburys and ritter bars.
                                                              While I eat most kinds of chocolate, I prefer milk, and don't care for the really dark darks. This works out well, DH is a huge fan of super dark chocolate.

                                                              1. biondanonima Dec 19, 2012 09:24 AM

                                                                I eat and enjoy both, as long as they're high quality. I'm not wasting the carbs on Hershey. I tend to prefer dark chocolate for truffles, eating straight up, and with specific fillings/flavors (mint, fruit, coconut). I prefer it in the 75-85% cacao range. However, for other fillings/flavors (caramel, peanut butter, salt), I like milk or semi-sweet chocolate, again with a higher proportion of cacao (40-60% is good).

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                                                                  escondido123 Dec 19, 2012 08:08 AM

                                                                  Bittersweet whenever possible. Add nuts and it is even better. Hate Swiss milk chocolate.

                                                                  1. PotatoHouse Dec 19, 2012 07:48 AM

                                                                    ( just to fan the flames) why not add to white chocolate into the mix?

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                                                                      jpr54_1 Dec 19, 2012 07:53 AM

                                                                      white chocolate IS NOT chocolate.

                                                                      I prefer dark chocolate

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                                                                        ipsedixit Dec 19, 2012 07:55 AM

                                                                        It's not technically chocolate, though.

                                                                        "White chocolate" is a misnomer in pure culinary sense.

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                                                                          sandylc Dec 19, 2012 11:58 AM

                                                                          Excellent flame-fanning - thanks!

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                                                                          reneeglass Dec 19, 2012 03:10 AM

                                                                          If its American chocolate - no offense anyone, but neither.

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                                                                            Kelli2006 Dec 20, 2012 11:40 PM

                                                                            E.Guittard makes very good chocolate.

                                                                            I prefer 70% dark chocolate for eating.

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                                                                            kseiverd Dec 19, 2012 03:07 AM

                                                                            I'm not a choc-aholic, but do prefer dark over milk.

                                                                            1. DuchessNukem Dec 18, 2012 09:34 PM

                                                                              I'm bi-choc-u-al. I even experiment with white chocoloate at times. Different moods, different chocolate.

                                                                              Why are you eating such shitty milk choc that it's chalky? Seriously, I tend to find it rather smooth.

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                                                                                violin Dec 18, 2012 09:23 PM

                                                                                My favorite is a strawberry dipped in white chocolate, then dark chocolate, then milk chocolate. In that order.

                                                                                1. ipsedixit Dec 18, 2012 09:20 PM

                                                                                  What battle?

                                                                                  Neither is a substitute for the other. Each has its unique role and place in the culinary tableau.

                                                                                  When I want or need dark and don't have it, my first impulse is not to reach for milk. My first and perhaps only impulse is to go get some dark. And vice versa.

                                                                                  If the question is given the choice which one would you rather have one bite of? If that was the case I would abstain and just walk away.

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                                                                                    justalex Dec 18, 2012 05:57 PM

                                                                                    I enjoy both. Is that allowed?

                                                                                    It all depends on what my tastebuds are in the mood for at the time.

                                                                                    As a child, we were all confronted by the Hershey bars at the grocery checkout. They were the ultimate then.

                                                                                    I still love the Toblerone that were sold at school fundraisers.

                                                                                    A Russian friend turned me on to all the delicious dark chocolates with a glass of Port.

                                                                                    It's chocolate. It's all good!

                                                                                    I guess I'm defenseless, at least when it comes to chocolate.

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                                                                                      Justpaula Dec 18, 2012 09:06 PM

                                                                                      Justpaula stepping in here to totally agree with justalex. I love chocolate, almost any, and unless it is total crap I will be delighted to eat either dark or milk. However, I do lean towards dark and will prefer it if I am eating a chocolate bar or piece with other flavors (I.e. - mint, orange, coconut, raspberry). I have a soft spot for Cadbury Milk Chocolate Fruit and Nut bars and am fortunate to live in a part of NYC where I can easily obtain the ones imported from the UK instead of settling for the ones produced by Hershey' s that are found all over the U.S.

                                                                                      Interestingly, just yesterday I watched an episode of ATK/Cooks Country on which the taste test segment was dedicated to milk chocolate bars. The losers were the obvious choices (Hershey' s and Nestle), the audience had selected a Dove bar as their favorite, but the test kitchen winner was a brand I had never heard of: Endangered Species. It intrigued me because it is a milk chocolate, but it has a 48% cacao content - which I believe is nearly double the amount in most milk chocolate. Sounds wonderful to me! On the expensive side, but I deserve a treat...and thanks to Amazon Prime's free two day shipping, it will be in my hands by Thursday.

                                                                                      http://www.amazon.com/Endangered-Spec...

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                                                                                        cheesemaestro Dec 19, 2012 07:50 AM

                                                                                        ". . . it has a 48% cacao content - which I believe is nearly double the amount in most milk chocolate."

                                                                                        It more like four times as much, compared to mass market milk chocolate. A Hershey bar contains 11% cacao, only 1% above the FDA's required minimum of 10%. Basically, you are eating sugar with a little chocolate thrown in.

                                                                                        At the other end of the scale, Bonnat in France makes milk chocolate bars with 65% cacao. That's the highest amount I know of. It's as high as, or higher than, many dark chocolate bars.

                                                                                        I confess to a preference for dark chocolate in the 70-80% range, but also enjoy a well made milk chocolate that is not too "burnt caramelly"--a fairly common defect that comes from cooking the milk.

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                                                                                          Justpaula Dec 19, 2012 12:12 PM

                                                                                          Wow! Thanks for that info, I hadn't realized that most milk chocolate had such little cacao content, making the Endangered Species 48% sound more intriguing to me (can't wait to receive the package of twelve, yes twelve, bar package I ordered).

                                                                                          So, as I mentioned before, I lean towards dark, but there is something to be said for the comforting, creamy, mouth-feel of a decent milk chocolate.

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                                                                                            davis_sq_pro Feb 9, 2013 10:12 AM

                                                                                            I'm usually a 70%+ dark chocolate kind of guy, but I do enjoy the smoothness of milk chocolate so the 65% Bonnat bars are intriguing... But I just Googled around and found them selling for $10+ each. Any idea on whether they can be had at a slightly lower price?

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                                                                                              cheesemaestro Feb 10, 2013 06:18 PM

                                                                                              Around $10 seems to be the going price, but I would take a look at the two big online chocolate sites: Chocosphere on the west coast and World Wide Chocolate on the east coast. WWC has a special on all Bonnat bars through Tuesday (Feb. 12) for $8.00 a bar (normally $10), while Chocosphere's regular price is $8.45. Each organization has an extensive selection, and ordering from either is a great way to explore different bars. If you buy a variety, rather than just a couple of bars, the shipping cost isn't prohibitive. If you live on or near the east coast, shipping by ground will probably be cheaper from WWC, but this may be cancelled out by WWC's overall higher prices. Chocosphere has better information on its web site about the producers, their bars and flavor profiles than WWC.

                                                                                              I also like Michel Cluizel's milk chocolate bars, which, however, have a lower cacao content, in the 47%-50% range. For that matter, I really like Cluizel's dark chocolate bars, including, if you're inclined to go all the way, the Noir Infini bar, which is a 99% bar, and, as such, might not be to your taste..

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                                                                                            jujuthomas Dec 19, 2012 12:14 PM

                                                                                            hmmm... seems I might have seen this brand at whole foods?

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                                                                                              sandylc Dec 19, 2012 12:38 PM

                                                                                              Our co-ops and natural foods stores carry this brand.

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                                                                                                mpjmph Dec 20, 2012 12:37 PM

                                                                                                My regular grocery store carries Endangered chocolates, so I grabbed a bar of their 48% milk the other day. Wow. It has the nice creamy texture of really good milk chocolate, but a much more intense chocolate flavor.

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                                                                                                  Justpaula Dec 23, 2012 01:37 PM

                                                                                                  Wow, is right. I finally tried it and I also really enjoy the intense dark chocolate flavor - not intense for those who prefer 70% + cacao, but very strong nonetheless. Combined with the creaminess of a milk chocolate, a snappy creaminess though, this bar really hits the spot of my chocolate happiness. I have eleven bars left. Must. Have. Restraint.

                                                                                                  Since I am still in baking mode, I am thinking I may chop some up for a recipe instead of eating them all out of hand.

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                                                                                                    MacGuffin Feb 12, 2013 10:43 AM

                                                                                                    Me, three. It's my favorite milk and is great in that "Ultimate Hot Chocolate" recipe and its variants that's on Chow.

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                                                                                                  jmcarthur8 Dec 21, 2012 03:58 PM

                                                                                                  I got a bar of the Endangered Species milk chocolate in the organic section of Kroger today.
                                                                                                  Since I've been nibbling on Christmas cookies all day, I'm saving the chocolate for after dinner when my mouth isn't having a sugar overload.
                                                                                                  I am very curious!

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                                                                                                    Justpaula Dec 21, 2012 05:29 PM

                                                                                                    Me too! I received my twelve-bar pack from Amazon today, and upon opening it, I explained to my DH the discussion here - and reminded him of the taste test we saw last weekend on ATK/Cooks Country. His immediate reply to the milk v. dark question was "milk all the way!", while my preference is towards dark (although I like milk too.....I mean, hey, if it is chocolate I like it). But, he is equally intrigued by the high cacao content in the Endangered Species Milk Chocolate. Planning on ripping one open before the night is through (I am also knee deep in Christmas cookies).

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