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L2k Dec 17, 2012 09:20 AM

The New Belle Isle

Only seen a couple of posts since Belle Isle moved across the bridge from East Boston to Winthrop, so I thought I'd make a handy thread for discussion on the new location as we went there yesterday afternoon for the first time since the move.

Been to the old location probably 50 times, and since we live south of Boston and outside 128, you know that we must love Belle Isle to go that far that often.

First impressions:

Building is much more substantial

Plenty of parking (although if the place fills up, I wonder if this might change), and nice not to be on the street or in the rutted back lot.

BATHROOMS! And even with some nice decoration (check out the seaglass inspired trim on the walls)! Big step up from the gallon sized jar of generic Purel!

Big counter, new menu boards (a bit further away than the old ones, I'll bring my glasses in next time!), more people behind the counter (and, it appeared, in the kitchen), Pepsi dispensing machine (instead of the 20 ounce bottles), little red buzzing lobsters to let you know when your food is ready, 2 big screen TVs, and BEER AND WINE!

Seating area is huge, probably can seat 100 people inside, and it looked like there might be outside seating as well. Windows facing the old location and across the harbor, looked like they will open nicely in warm weather. Seating is mostly large picnic bench style, with fixed benches. Easily can fit 8 at a table. Also two traditional tables with chairs with backs in the middle of the floor, and a couple booths on the wall furthest from the windows.

For 3PM on a rainy, cold Sunday afternoon, the place was busy! Must have been 25 people eating or waiting for food when we got there. Considering the old place was crowded with 15 people, this bodes well for Belle Isle.

We always get the same thing: Me, a lobster roll with fries, her, a lobster roll with onion rings. But now there was an option! The traditional roll is still $19.99, but you can get a Tail Only roll for $27.99. Tempting, but not tempting enough for us to bite.

Comments: With all the new staff to take care of the customers, I fear we may lose a little of the familiar touch. I've always been recognized at the counter and my wife and my regular order has always been known. I have no problem placing my order, but that was a nice, homey touch that I fear I will miss.

Sign warned that food was taking 10-15 minutes, but our lobster rolls were ready in about 5-7 minutes -- our little electric lobster buzzed and we picked up our late lunch. I did see the staff bringing food to some customers which was nice.

The food. So you know, we rank Red's Eats as 100 on the Lobster Roll scale. Belle Isle has always been a 99 for us, with nothing else consistently over 95 (and we've taken a few "Lobster Roll Quests", where we drive ridiculous distances and eat way too many lobster rolls). We opened the carefully folded paper and this is what we noticed (note: This is based on a single sample and may not be indicative of anything):

1) Sandwich was piled high, and the lobster was falling off the sides of the roll, but it seemed smalled, end to end
2) There appeared to be more lettuce underneath the meat than before (3 leaves vs. 1)
3) The ratio of tail to claw/knuckle meat seemed to be lower than in the past. Could this be because of the "tail only" alternative? I don't know.

Conclusion: The lobster roll was delicious, but we give it a 97, instead of a 99. Still the best option south of Wiscasset, and maybe we just caught it on a bad day (for them). Not gonna stop us from stopping in and gorging ourselves, but will keep an eye out on quality.

  1. L2k Apr 21, 2013 03:39 PM

    My first time back since the above post was today, and I don't want to take the general lobster roll thread down this road, and a fear has been realized.

    Standard roll (plus a side) is still $19.99, "tail only" roll was $26.99.

    Whereas in the past the standard roll was probably a 50-50 mix of tail and claw/knuckle meat, and it was nearly so in my prior report in December, this time our rolls were about 75-80% claw/knuckle, and 20-25% tail meat. Don't get me wrong, it's still the best roll in the Boston area (wish I lived closer to Red's Eats), but it has left an opening for another purveyor to try to top it, when in the past I would have thought that was nearly impossible.

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      Gabatta Apr 21, 2013 03:43 PM

      Yeah, this mirrors my experience/thoughts per the other thread. It's mildly annoying they messed with a good thing.

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        L2k May 21, 2013 07:56 AM

        Were back there on Sunday (thanks, Delta, for moving our flight to arrive at 1:30PM, instead of at 10AM!), and got our usual "regular" lobster rolls, but this time we both had a 2 to 1 ratio of tail to claw/knuckle meat, so who knows how this works.

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      mikeinboston Dec 19, 2012 07:02 PM

      did you happen to notice if they were still "cash only" or if they were now accepting other forms of payment?

      thanks for the great report!

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        rlee21 Dec 19, 2012 07:54 PM

        Still cash only. There's an atm on the premise.

      2. opinionatedchef Dec 18, 2012 11:31 AM

        l, thx so much for this very helpful detailed report. In your lobster roll hounding, have you tried them at Neptune Oyster and Yankee Lobster? thx.

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          L2k Dec 19, 2012 07:17 AM

          I've done Yankee lobster a couple times and would not hesitate to go back or to bring a friend, should I be "touristing" in the area. Never been to Neptune -- if I find myself in the North End, I'm enjoying Italian.

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            rlee21 Dec 19, 2012 08:18 AM

            Neptune Oyster's lobster roll is a totally different animal being served hot with butter instead of cold with mayo. Its also very good, but totally unlike Belle Isle.

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              Gabatta Dec 19, 2012 08:20 AM

              Neptune serves 2 different rolls; one hot with butter and one cold with mayo.

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                rlee21 Dec 19, 2012 07:56 PM

                My mistake. I've always gotten the hot one by default.

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              cambridgedoctpr Dec 19, 2012 02:46 PM

              what about island creek's lobster roll? I like the lobster sandwich at Alive and Kickin

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              catsmeow Dec 17, 2012 03:25 PM

              Was the roll grilled with butter?

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              1. re: catsmeow
                L2k Dec 18, 2012 07:14 AM

                But of course!

                And big pumps with ketchup (for the fries!), instead of having to open up a half dozen of those little packets, getting ketchup on your thumb with every one.

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                  Bellachefa Dec 18, 2012 07:59 AM

                  Who knew ketchup pumps would be a cause for celebration! Thanks for the smile!

              2. trufflehound Dec 17, 2012 03:11 PM

                I prefer claw meat.

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                  Klunco Dec 18, 2012 08:42 AM

                  I'm with you. Maybe this means a cheaper "claw meat only" roll!

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                  Bellachefa Dec 17, 2012 10:54 AM

                  As soon as you mentioned the tail only lobster roll, I knew what was ahead. Unless they are serving lobster claw stew or lobster claws with drawn butter, the regular roll is going to suffer a deficit ratio. That's why my favourite lobster roll is the one I shuck and make myself.

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                  1. re: Bellachefa
                    L2k Dec 17, 2012 11:47 AM

                    There is one other alternative: They might be selling "fresh lobster meat" as well as "fresh lobster tails" (I think Marden's does this), in which case they could sell the "extra" non-tail meat loose like that.

                    I forgot to mention in my review that due to the weather, we also got a cup of their clam chowder. Never had gotten any soup at the old location (did they even have it?) and it was very good. Perfect temperature, lots of clams, and the right amount of potatoes.

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                    Gabatta Dec 17, 2012 09:55 AM

                    Great review. I'm not worried about losing the personal touch as I found the old staff unaccommodating to downright abrasive at times. If there is less lobster in the roll that sucks, but it wouldn't be shocking given the higher overhead. We will get over to try it soon.

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                      treb Dec 17, 2012 01:44 PM

                      Have to agree with the abarsive 'tude of the old staff, think the wait staff aproach will be better. As for the roll size, if the customers don't like the roll, the sales will identify that to the owners qiuckly. Finally, I don't have to eat in the car where I use to pop a beer!

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                        rlee21 Dec 19, 2012 08:22 AM

                        I just visited the new location a week ago and had the lobster meat roll instead of the tail only roll. I don't think the amount of meat has changed at all, but I do agree that the lobster meat roll has less tail than before. I think you end up with more knuckle mostly and maybe a bit more claw.

                        It certainly loses the grungy character of the old location, but the new location is definitely an upgrade in my book.

                      2. k
                        Klunco Dec 17, 2012 09:33 AM

                        Thanks for this report. Like you, Belle Isle is one place that we frequent (it's my favorite Saturday lunch) but with schedules we haven't been to the new location.

                        Looking forward to trying it!

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