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DCDOLL Dec 12, 2012 11:08 AM

I'm just curious...now that 1789 has 'relaxed' their dress code to "jackets DESIRED" (never thought i'd see that..) what restaurants are left in DC that still require a jacket from men? Are there any left?

i like that level of formality sometimes and would enjoy going somewhere in DC that still has it... as long as the food is good! Please advise if you know any!

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    cfoodie Dec 17, 2012 05:04 PM

    As someone who goes to restaurants for the food, not to be seen, I don't wear jackets unless 1. it's required AND 2. a Michellin 3 star. There are plenty of 3 stars I have been to without jacket and no one made a fuss. Went to both Volt chefs table and Prime Rib this week without jacket, enjoyed my meals and treated with respect. If there is a reason you would enjoy the meal more with it, I would wear it. But I generally think as long as you are a good person, not especially sloppy, you should be entitled to enjoy your meal as long as you are reasonably dressed. If you enjoy the formality, dress up. Some of the private clubs in DC should suit you.

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      DCDOLL Dec 18, 2012 07:54 AM

      Hey... to each his or her own. I wasn't denigrating anyone who doesn't want to dress up/wear a jacket, just asking if there were places that still required it and making a comment that in SOME places, i have seen folks with tennis shoes and the like when it was obvious the atmosphere called for something more. I am sure you are well dressed when you go out, with or without a jacket, i just enjoy going places where that is the standard. and it IS also about the food...if you look at the original post you'll see i ended with "as long as the food is good". Atmosphere & well dressed clientele are pointless if the food is marginal...

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        monkeyrotica Dec 19, 2012 11:34 PM

        I get the impression jackets-only dining will eventually go the way of restaurants where "ladies are welcome to join the gentlemen after 5pm." Not really a growth market.

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        Pappy Dec 20, 2012 02:40 AM

        You don't get it. It's about you ruining my meal while you are selfishly enjoying yours, not being "especially sloppy".

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          wr70beh May 18, 2013 10:09 PM

          The days of the "dining experience" are gone, and you can thank Applebee's for that. I think that a HUGE chunk of the population believe that Applebee's is "fine dining". These same people think that since they can wear a NASCAR T-shirt and ball cap to Applebee's without comment, then every other restaurant allows this, too. Their kids grow up in this environment, Now that this "Applebee's generation" are getting well paying jobs (especially around DC), they think that dressing slovenly is OK everywhere. It's a culture shift, and there is not much push back the other way on this.

          It could be worse....you could have a well dressed couple come into the restaurant with a 5 year old brat in a dress complaining that they don't have chicken nuggets on the menu.

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        Sal Vanilla Dec 14, 2012 12:56 PM

        Citronelle. Are they open though?

        I can't remember, but I want to say The Oval Room. I am not sure it is required, but you will find people dressed well there.

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          RichardinJP Dec 14, 2012 12:21 AM

          The relaxing of dress requirements has put a significant crimp into our dining experiences. Being rather good and adventurous cooks at home, we go to restaurants for a dining experience; good food, attentive and competent service, and a pleasing atmosphere. Part of that atmosphere is the clientele. I see no difference among withered flowers on the table, stained carpets, and guys (primarily) dressed in jeans, sneakers and, ghastly, baseball caps.

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            DCDOLL Dec 14, 2012 05:35 AM

            Amen bro....i think 1789 is stil a place not too many 'underdressed' tourists would go and nothing else we love there has changed but you'd think the few 'hobos' that were in there would feel out of place. Shame on their dining companions for not telling them (or the restaurant when they reserved unless they used OT). i remember when they used to call and confirm they'd always say "just a reminder, jackets required for gentlemen" i'd say "i wouldn't have it any other way!" we'll have to go back to Marcel's and Prime Rib since it's been a while and try Plume also! thanks everyone!

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              FoiGras Dec 14, 2012 12:39 PM

              It appears that a few, select, of us Chowhounders, really appreciate dressing up for a night out dining in an elegant restaurant with great food and service. the wait staff at the the higher end restaurants wear tuxedos. We should respond back to them and dress up accordingly. Knowing this is not about food--okay--the Prime Rib has been a go-to for special occassions. Have never been disappointed in the food nor service.

              Coming from Baltimore--the only elegant restaurant(s) with dress "suggestions" are the Prime Rib--actually, I should not have made a plural suggestion. No other restaurant requires or imposes a dress code. am aware that it's about the food/cuisine, but the original poster made the point that --one can cook at home or dine out casually. A special occassion deserves the finery of dressing to the nines--or at least somewhat formally. FoiGras

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                Hal Laurent Dec 14, 2012 01:01 PM

                In Baltimore, neither the Prime Rib or Charleston require jackets anymore, but both suggest it.

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                Pappy Dec 20, 2012 02:38 AM

                That anyone could possibly think that it is remotely ok to wear a baseball cap at the table in any public space is all the evidence necessary to prove that civilized society has completely and totally collapsed.

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                  FoiGras Dec 20, 2012 01:09 PM

                  Yeah--you are so correct---I'm sure we will have some negative attitudes to what we believe. FoiGras

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                    crackers Dec 21, 2012 01:19 AM

                    So, no cammo baseball caps at Adour, right?

                2. law_doc89 Dec 12, 2012 11:58 AM

                  Plume is also jackets preferred.

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                    Guy Incognito Dec 12, 2012 10:10 AM

                    Marcel's?

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                      Elyssa Dec 12, 2012 07:16 AM

                      I'm pretty sure the Prime Rib still requires jackets. I know in the summer they relax their rule about ties, but I'm pretty sure a jacket is still the norm there. If you go get the signature dish and the key lime pie.

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                        DCDOLL Dec 12, 2012 07:56 AM

                        yum... i'm hungry now! sounds good esp the key lime pie... i can take or leave meat though. Do you know if their seafood is good? it's funny how lots of the big red meat places actually have good seafood!

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                          CDouglas Dec 12, 2012 12:53 PM

                          The Prime Rib has the definitive Imperial Crab, really good crab cakes, and Chilean sea bass which I have not had there but I can't imagine they would have trouble cooking it correctly.

                          For dessert seriously consider the strawberries Romanoff - amazing.

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                            FoiGras Dec 13, 2012 04:42 AM

                            Definitely the Prime Rib--and order the Crab Imperial--it is the best. FoiGras

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                          fldhkybnva Dec 13, 2012 05:36 AM

                          I went to the Prime Rib last year and was accompanied by someone who did not wear a jacket and it was OK.

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                            Elyssa Dec 13, 2012 06:12 AM

                            What time of year was it? I think they relax a few of their policies in the summer months.

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                              fldhkybnva Dec 13, 2012 06:51 AM

                              It was either New Year's Eve or the day before.

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                                unburritable Dec 13, 2012 07:45 AM

                                they changed the policy about a year and a half ago. That said, I've been there twice recently, and everyone was wearing a jacket - it's an awfully fancy place to go dressed like a schlub

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                                  fldhkybnva Dec 13, 2012 07:51 AM

                                  Yea, I was actually none to pleased. It was a special dinner for him as a celebration for a work promotion and he refused to wear a jacket (everyday jeans and t-shirt kind of guy).

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                                    FoiGras Dec 13, 2012 12:11 PM

                                    Next time-save your money and take the "schlumph" to Applebee's or the like. What is wrong with taking a bit of effort and getting dressed nicely? Everything is much too casual these days. I am all for modified dress codes at the higher end dining establishments. I'm not advocating a dictatorial attitude at the fancier restaurants, but there are plenty of casual dining places where one can wear very dressed down attire. There is a place and time for everything. FoiGras

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                                      fldhkybnva Dec 13, 2012 12:37 PM

                                      Yes, thank you. While I am not one for too much pomp and circumstance, it is appropriate in many occasions and much under-appreciated these days. Believe me, we have not been on another $300+ meal since then. I stick to whipping up the patty melts on the kitchen stove at home for him.

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                                        monkeyrotica Dec 14, 2012 12:06 AM

                                        I got dressed up to go to PX for cocktails, ended up surrounded by hobos. What are you gonna do?

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