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j mather Dec 11, 2012 03:27 PM

I've heard some folks have gotten this ahead of the supposed 12/12 release. I called my local retailer and they said they don't know when they are getting it. Has anyone tried it yet?

  1. The Professor Dec 11, 2012 07:48 PM

    Haven't tried it, and probably will only do so if someone gifts me with a bottle.

    The readily available (and excellent) St. Bernardus ABT 12 is by most accounts _virtually the same brew, at a far more reasonable price_...without the mystique and without the hype.

    1. JAB Dec 12, 2012 06:39 AM

      I'm in thru my son via The Davis Beer Shoppe. They only received 40.

      Total Wine is receiving the most. They weren't accepting reservations. It's first come first served.

      I was able to find a site that listed all of the retail locations by state. I'm sorry that I can't link to it but, I'm at work and any alchohol related sites are blocked.

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        donovt Dec 12, 2012 07:30 AM

        Was this it: http://121212xii.wordpress.com/2012/1...

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          JAB Dec 12, 2012 07:51 AM

          Yes, while I can't open it, I remember the URL.

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            donovt Dec 12, 2012 08:04 AM

            I'm in Rhode Island today, so won't be able to get any. I've never had it before and was hoping to give it a try.

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        LStaff Dec 12, 2012 08:48 AM

        Hundreds of packs were available during the summer in MA as an offer to those who attended The Festival in Worcester which was organized by the importer of the Westy packs.

        I have also read that some packs were available in GA last week due to some fear that the state of GA was threatening its sale - check beerpulse.com for details.

        So far the reviews are mixed - some saying its just as good as they remember it and some saying its not even close.

        I would buy a brick if I there are any leftover after today and I don't have to jump through hoops or stand in line for it. If not, no big deal as there are plenty of other good beers to choose from.

        1. TrishUntrapped Dec 12, 2012 12:44 PM

          I'm picking up my six pack today at 5 at DeCicco's Market in Brewster, NY. They gave out 200 tickets at 2. We were told to come back at 5 for the beer itself. Buying it for my son for Christmas. Huge number of beer aficionados there. One guy came up from Pennsylvania and was there since 8 waiting for a ticket. I'll post more later.

          1. My "golden" ticket set against DeCicco's beer menu...
          2. Great bartenders at DeCicco's

           
           
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            JAB Dec 12, 2012 01:13 PM

            Wow, 200 is a big #. Davis Beer Shoppe in Davis, CA had 40, Total Wine in Lake Forrest, CA had 72 and Bruery Provisions in Orange, CA had 56.

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              TrishUntrapped Dec 12, 2012 04:00 PM

              Yes, 200 is a lot. This DeCicco's Market is unique and quite special. I'll post more later.

              But for now, here is a picture of the Holy Grail — 6 beers, two glasses. I'm expecting my son will pop one open on Christmas and let us all taste it. So now I'm wondering, what temp should it be serve? Refrigerator cold, room temp...?

               
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                brentk Dec 13, 2012 04:26 AM

                Cellar temperature, otherwise you will mask the flavor. Also, to get your curiosity out of the way, drink a bottle now. I have had the beer a few times and I don't particularly care for it fresh - way too sweet and boozy. It is with a few years of age that it is best. I had a taste of the 1999 last weekend that, with 13 years of age on it, tasted superbly.

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                  magic Dec 13, 2012 09:34 AM

                  While I am a massive foodie, I am not a beer guy.

                  However I did manage to get a 6-pack today in Toronto for my beer-crazy friend!

                  It's been INCREDIBLY tough to snag any since yesterday’s release. Toronto was allotted in the neighbourhood of 1000 cases or so I believe, and they’ve all been arriving at the different locations at different times with little info on when deliveries were expected and when they’d be ready for sale. I arrived at a location that was reported to have 50 six-packs in stock. They actually had 56! I was number 34 when I lined up at 7 a.m. Many walked away empty-handed sadly.

                  Ironically, my beer-loving friend also managed to snag one six-pack at another location. So now he has 2 six-packs!

                  He said it’s like winning the lottery. Twice. On the same day.

          2. Insidious Rex Dec 13, 2012 10:45 AM

            I still have most of a six pack I got from an online purchase over a year ago so thankfully I wont need to kill myself to try to get the new release. That being said I think its an excellent beer. Would I wait in line all night and pay $85 for it? No way. Would I do that for any beer? Maybe 8 or 9 years ago. Probably not now. But I hate the little elite backlash we are seeing now in conjunction with this release. Andy Crouch even felt the need to write an article saying it wasnt even a very good beer at all: http://www.beerscribe.com/. Come on Andy... Its a fantastic beer that happens to be caught up in a supply and demand hype that makes it not worth pursuing IN MY OPINION. But its an excellent beer. My worry is that a lot of folks will go through such extremes (and expense) to get these that they will set themselves up for disappointment no matter how good the beer is...

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              Whisper Dec 13, 2012 12:02 PM

              I picked up this gift pack about a year ago at the St Sixtus abbey for 25 euro. I'd had all the Westvleteren beers before, including some various vintages of the 12 up to fifteen years old.

              After picking up the gift box I went to the St Bernardus Brouwershuis bed and breakfast for the evening, where as part of the deal for staying there you are provided with refrigerators full of complimentary St Bernardus beers, including the 12.

              I decided to do a side by side tasting of the Westvleteren and the St Bernardus, both as fresh as they could be. Overall they were quite similar as expected, although also as expected the Westvleteren had a smooth as silk mouthfeel which the St Bernardus couldn't quite match. Also, the Westvleteren's flavor profile opened a bit more than the St Bernardus as the beer warmed.

              If you're lucky enough to buy the Westvleteren directly at the abbey it's really not an expensive beer. But as most people aren't able to do so, then the St Bernardus is a great option, although I do prefer the Rochefort 10 over the St Bernardus but just behind the Westvleteren.

              Oh, and anyone who says the Westvleteren is not a good beer needs to have their head examined. Not to your taste? Ok, fine. But not a good beer? That's absurd.

              1. JAB Dec 18, 2012 07:16 AM

                Well, any opinions on this batch? I won't get mine until this coming Saturday.

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                  Shaggy Dec 19, 2012 04:07 PM

                  It's good, but it's not as good as the hype. I actually preferred the 8 to the 12. Don't spend your money, there are lots of other great beers out there for a fraction of the price.

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                    LStaff Dec 20, 2012 06:42 AM

                    The few times I've had it (both fresh and 15 y.o.) I thought it was an awesome beer worthy of its hype. But I think the blonde Westvleteren 6 is their best beer.

                    1. JAB Dec 27, 2012 03:48 PM

                      I have to say that for me, it lived up to the hype. I had a lot of beer over the extended Holiday having hit "The Beer Road" (Lagunitas, Bear Republic & Russian River) and the beers that stood apart from the crowd were the Westy and Russian River's Sours.

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                        TrishUntrapped Dec 27, 2012 05:32 PM

                        I should have asked this... JAB, do you serve the Westy cold or room temp or what?

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                          JAB Dec 27, 2012 11:13 PM

                          Cellar temperature. A good rule of thumb is to take it out of the fridge and let it sit for 20 minutes before serving it.

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                            Jim Dorsch Dec 28, 2012 04:20 AM

                            I do that with pretty much any beer.

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