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See this post on DaveMP's thread:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8814...

It is better to have Last Reply go to the actual FIRST UNREAD - *not* the actual last reply. Having it skip past countless unread posts is completely useless to ANY user, because they still have to then scroll back up to read those posts they missed.

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  1. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, LindaWhit. We'll look into this more...not sure what the final decision will be here, but I definitely understand what you are saying.

    Thanks!
    Dave MP

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    1. re: Dave MP

      I really hope you realize that "Last Reply" is completely useless to any user. If it can't be changed to "First Unread" for each user, you had might as well remove it entirely from the redesign.

      1. re: Dave MP

        I feel that a feature has been removed from the site which is something you never want to do to a user.

        Today I am really missing the functionality that let me click on the number of replies in a thread and having the screen position at the first unread post. Without that, I'm not going to check a thread several times a day for new replies. Instead, I'll wait a few days and just read the whole thing once, and probably not reply because the discussion is resolved and over. Many, many fewer page views in our future.

        1. re: Melanie Wong

          And interestingly, I *NEVER* knew that was even a feature, Melanie. I would have used it ALL the time, as several threads I participate on (What's For Dinner, Top Chef recaps, etc.) can get rather long and unwieldy.

          Now knowing that a feature I would have used incessantly has been removed? Gah. Even MORE irritated.

          1. re: LindaWhit

            Oh no! This has been a feature from shortly after the CNET site launched in 2006. Here's my explanation, Jan 2007.
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/365704

            My memory is dim on how it came to be. But I recall making the same complaint way back then that we needed a way to get to new unread posts without having to scroll incessantly or no one was going to return to long threads again and again.

            By force of habit today I've been clicking on the number of replies, and it makes me sadder each time when the thread opens and just sits up at the top instead of whooshing to new reading material.

            1. re: Melanie Wong

              Well, hopefully that functionality gets returned. I would LOVE to use it. Why this was removed in the first place is beyond dumb.

              1. re: LindaWhit

                Until it can be reinstated, I was going to suggest that the gray arrow that signifies new replies to a previously read thread should at a minimum skip over the original post and point to the comments section (the start of replies), e.g., http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8815..., instead of the same thread url as the number of replies symbol does. But I've just discovered that #comments added to a thread url is not recognized in the new design.

                1. re: Melanie Wong

                  Thanks everyone. The feature Melanie describes was actually not in place, at least not anytime that I can remember. But we do think it's a good idea, and we are going to look into making it happen.

                  In the previous design, when you clicked on the reply count, it brought you to the top of the replies, using #comments. But it brought you here regardless of whether you had read that top reply or not.

                  I'll keep everyone posted on progress here though, so thanks again for all of this feedback.

                  1. re: Dave MP

                    Thanks for the reply, Dave. Looking forward to that addition.

                    1. re: Dave MP

                      Perhaps it was browser dependent, as was using the space bar to advance the screen. In my case, I'm a Firefox user. But I can tell you that I used it every day for every previously read thread I opened and it would land on the first unread post, skipping over collapsed reply posts. Otherwise it would not be such a difficult habit to break. Using a small laptop without a real mouse for most of my reading, it would otherwise have been impossible for me to check back on threads as frequently as I did. It only went to the first of the unread posts and did not continue on to subsequent unread posts further down in a thread.

                      I'm glad to hear that you are considering bringing it back.

            2. re: Melanie Wong

              I also never knew about that feature, and asked for something similar here (see item A):

              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/835304

              ... apparently even Dave MP didn't know it was a feature :-)

              1. re: davis_sq_pro

                And lookie here! The "NEW!" flag was establishedjust 6 months ago - and then they yank it away after getting so many kudos for it:

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8353...

                I also see I was vehemently against having a "LIKE" button on Chowhound in a few posts below the permalink. I still am. :-)

          2. This is why I wanted the actual last reply to remain highlighted in yellow
            instead of fading away after 2 seconds

            On a thread with several replies since last visited, it requires scrolling up and down through them all to figure out the sequence by which time the highlight is long gone.

            1. There's a change as of today which addresses this issue:

              As a logged-in user, if you click on the middle column (replies) for a discussion that has been updated since you last read it, it will bring you to the first unread post on the discussion.

              Clicking in the third column, the date and time of last reply, will still bring you to the last reply. Note that this will work regardless of whether you have read the discussion or not.

              Hope this makes sense, and to see other changes that went out today, see this discussion: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/882931

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              1. re: Dave MP

                I'm not understanding it, unfortunately.

                The middle column? If I click anywhere in the collapsed replies, it just opens that individual reply. I'll head off to the update thread for today to see if I can understand it there.

                Thanks for fixing this - once I understand it, that is! LOL

                1. re: LindaWhit

                  From a category (board) page, look for a discussion that has been updated since you last read it. It will be bold, and have an arrow in the middle column, next to the number, which indicates that it's a discussion you have read, but has been updated since you last read it.

                  Click the reply count number, and you will be brought to the first unread reply in that discussion. I believe this is exactly what you were asking for in your original post here.

                  Hope that makes sense!
                  Dave MP

                  1. re: Dave MP

                    Ahhhh....OK, so it works from just the board/category page. OK, I was thinking it was specifically on each post - including ones I've commented on, which I then access from my Profile.

                    ETA - in my best Emily Litella voice: "Never mind!" I see clicking on that Replies button on what is listed in my Profile for each thread I've commented on.

                    So THANK YOU! Merry Christmas to us. AND to all of you. :-D

                    1. re: LindaWhit

                      Glad it makes sense! Have a great holiday!

                      1. re: LindaWhit

                        Works from your list of threads in your profile too.

                        1. re: Melanie Wong

                          Yup - I edited my reply to Dave to say I had figured that out. I *love* this feature. :-D

                          1. re: LindaWhit

                            Now you understand why I was so upset when it disappeared! We should be talking it up besides on Site Talk as an easy way to navigate long threads so that others don't miss out on its use.

                            1. re: Melanie Wong

                              Absolutely - I plan to point it out anytime someone complains about a long thread! I just wish I had known about it for the past few years! LOL

                  2. re: Dave MP

                    Thank you, thank you, an excellent Christmas present!

                    By force of habit, I clicked on the number of replies to this thread from my profile, and had the very pleasant surprise of landing right on your announcement. Good work!