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Sorry, but I'm not coming back to this site until the format is fixed.

This is terrible and clearly inferior to the old format.

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  1. ahh we'll get used to it.

    my issue(s) is the content column size and the reply box font point size.

    1. Yes, what is with the huge font?

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      1. re: rasputina

        I'm OK with the big font, but don't want to squint while proofing my own words. my issue is that the posted comments appear (and of course, this is relative) in say 12-14 pt. and my reply is typed (relatively) in 6 pt.

      2. I wonder if they do any A/B testing to see if this is actually better.

        I don't get why they are doing this.

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        1. re: calumin

          I don't like this at all. And it is so slow!

        2. We'll probably get used to it in time.

          1. That's a little extreme. Obviously they can't please everybody. My view is that it's their site to do with as they please. The substance is in the content, not the format.

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            1. Gawker made a similar move at one point and I just hated the new format so much I stopped reading the site for a few months. I went back one day and saw they had added an "old layout" viewing option on the homepage. Guess I wasn't the only one!

              1. How will you know it's been fixed if you don't come back to check?

                1. taking your ball and going home, huh? That will show 'em!


                  Really just joking but my guess is that since Chow Team have yet to respond to the main thread and only a few other Chow people have only respnded here and and there on other threads the new format is is here to stay.

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                  1. re: foodieX2

                    Hi foodieX2,

                    You're right about the new format being here to stay. But we're also listening and working on some changes based on the most frequent and constructive feedback we're hearing. Look for adjustments in the next couple of days, and more over the next few weeks. Our goal is to make improvements more frequently moving forward, and those posts that have really clear feedback help us move in a direction users will like, we hope.


                    1. re: mudaba

                      I think it would be helpful to just communicate with us more. Do you intend to ever have a m.chowhound.com or must all pc users contend with a mobile interface forever. What direction are you trying to go in the future? What about customizable colour schemes so users can change the colours themselves. Or what about explaining when the next version will come out so people know how long to wait to see what changes are going to be made. Or even clarifying what you are willing to change. Simple things like font and colour seem easy enough, but maybe there is no room for change with things like the hover reply or whatever. What are the first things you are working on for the update in a couple days?

                      1. re: TeRReT

                        Of course as I say that, Dave replies in the other thread, but regardless it would be nice to know what changes you are actually intending to make and the order of importance and rough timeline rather then just 'some changes in a couple days'

                      2. re: mudaba

                        Hi Meredith,

                        I'm sorry, but this new format is very clunky to read on a pc. It is quite fatiguing to have such large print. It's like a format for children, or the very elderly. Who can be so patient to see 2 entries at a time. Did you find that the primary users of chowhound are mobile users? I'm just not interested in slogging through a website. I'll check back periodically, but honestly, it's just too tedious at the moment. I've never seen such a format. I don't know why you thought this was such a great idea.

                        1. re: mudaba

                          Meredith, I responded some positives and negatives on meshane's sitetalk thread. really it's just the font size variation, ought to be an easy CSS fix. (yeah I know nuthin' is ever easy and we'll never be pleased, but we will get used to it)

                          1. re: mudaba

                            This change is pure crap; the previous one was just fine for me .. guess I won't be here much.

                            1. re: mudaba

                              Hi Merideth,

                              Another member of the "Chowhound Team" said the same crap on another thread about positive feedback and constructive criticism.

                              OK, the new "Chowhound Team" is only looking for constructive feedback? The changes are terrible, the people responsible should be updating their resume, and to ask us to fix there miserable blunder for free is insulting.

                              This whole thing has been a basic f-u to people who have been here since Jeff started Chowhound.

                              Talk about cutting off the hand that fed you a great website.

                              1. re: mudaba

                                The font is way to big. It's tiring trying to look at the posts, and frankly, makes me not want to.

                                1. re: mudaba

                                  Thanks Meredith - I know you are under pressure. And I see some changes have already been made in response to hound suggestions. People like to be consulted on decisions which affect them, most often before any change is made not after!

                                  As Ruth Lafler has already suggested,please drop the Sans Serif font. But I find the site less attractive than before.

                              2. Please. It's a silly chat board, not a life and death situation. Why all the angst? The new format is just fine CH team. It's been one day and I can hardly remember what it looked like before. Have a problem with the font size? Just hit command + or - and increase or decrease the font size. Some people just do not like change,

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                                1. re: ttoommyy

                                  But yet, no different than any other site or private or public entity online wishing you to visit, participate and possibly purchase something via their website.

                                  I've had budgets of $1000's and $10,000's of dollars to fulfill purchase orders or fufill client needs and have shunned business and services online due to thier crappy website design.

                                  And QUITE a few times. Actually. Alot.
                                  And it's not me. LOLOLOL.

                                  Sure, CH is free. But so is the advice, comments and commentary I give as well.

                                  I don't get paid to help a home cook out for perfecting a pot roast nor for giving a restaurant review.


                                  Then CH should go all eater.com, seriouseats.com or foodnetwork and pay the writers,chefs, reviewers and put up content themselves and go all "big' on ads.

                                  That, sadly , is not a forum community.

                                  If I can't read what i click on, then goodbye. And THAT is what this is all about.

                                  Keep on with the "Rose Colored Glasses" tho.

                                  1. re: ttoommyy

                                    I'm with you ttoommyy. While I don't really think the format is all that pleasant, I will get over it. I don't come here because I like the way the website looks. I come here to interact with people who have a similar interest as I do. I'm thankful that I have a place to do that.

                                    1. re: ttoommyy

                                      Seriously? No one should have to hit the CNTL + or - to change the font size for readability. If that happened at EVERY website I went to - I wouldn't be going to those websites.

                                      Change is fine. Stupid change for the sake of change (and to the detriment of what seems to be the majority of those reading the website) is just dumb.

                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                        I do. Once you hit a certain age and you are far sighted, reading web sites gets a bit difficult, even with reading glasses. If I didn't adjust the font size back and forth when surfing the web, I would never be able to read half the sites I go to.

                                        And personally, I think most of the changes here are fine, not dumb at all. Why do many of us not have any omplaints?

                                    2. command +/- is all well and good but I don't want to have to constantly adjust the font everytime I switch from the thread listing to posts. The font is fine inside the threads but it's huge on the main forum thread list.

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                                      1. re: rasputina

                                        I have to do it when I go from web site to web site, so I am used to doing it. It just comes naturally to me. But I guess for others it could be a nuisance.

                                        1. re: rasputina

                                          "Keep on with the "Rose Colored Glasses" tho."

                                          What does this mean? I am looking at the site for what it is. I am not making it some glorified web site that looks perfect. I acknowledge the pluses and minuses and deal with them. As I do will all web sites I go to. It is not a matter of looking at things through "Rose Colored Glasses."

                                          1. re: ttoommyy

                                            I didn't post anything about rose colored glasses?

                                            1. re: rasputina

                                              Sorry rasputina. I was responding to jjjrfoodie. I guess i didn't enlarge the font enough and hit the wrong reply! lol. :)


                                        2. Not sure why I am surprised at the strong negative opinions: seems a pervasive position in all things recently. Ok I also do not think those engineering the changes did a very good job. With the troubleshooting done by many here they may be able to salvage their jobs. Love the observation" if you don't come back how will you know it is fixed? Onward and upward!