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Nov 27, 2012 07:47 PM

Help Please - Cooktop recommendation

HELP - gas cooktop recommendation
I am new and accidentally posted this to the "kosher" thread originally. Sorry.

I have read all the discussions I can find on here but hoping to get some QUICK advice. We're in the middle of remodeling a kitchen in a home we recently purchased. We will have an island with granite countertop and gas cooktop (non-negotiable for my wife).

Because of walls, venting and other issues are options are:

gas cooktop with downdraft built in (my wife wants the Jenn Aire, but reading this board gives me pause).

gas cooktop with separate telescoping vent (leaning toward bosch top and broan vent)

gas cooktop with no venting on the island but putting a through the wall utility fan (think 1950s).

It needs to be 30".

In kind of a hurry as we're in the middle of the project (I could explain why I"m just asking now, but trust me there is a reason).

Like to stay under $2,000 but could go higher.

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  1. Downdraft is useless and telescoping vent is next to useless.

    BlueStar RBCT304BSS is the best 30" gas cooktop regardless of price.

    It is about $1600.

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    1. re: DeeAgeaux

      Thanks for the blue star recommendation. Sorry to hear about the downdrafts. Any thoughts about options 3?

      1. re: DeeAgeaux

        I have a ten year old vent that moves up an down for my electric cooktop. It works pretty well I think. It is noisy though.

      2. I had a Jenn Air downdraft and was elated to see it head out the door during our kitchen reno earlier this year. Noisy, ineffective and a dirt and dust trap.

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        1. re: Breadcrumbs

          Thanks. I am surprised to read so many negative comments about Jenn Aire, but they are so prevalent I can't ignore!

          1. re: sqmr3

            Another "had a Jenn Aire downdraft was horrible" vote here. I am guessing that their prevalence is because of people who don't cook a lot wanting their kitchens to look "serious," especially builders. It is the same mindset that buys matching sets because of the way they look. (I have no problem with matched sets in theory, especially if they are good stuff and well priced, but they are usually loaded with items that the buyer, if they cook a lot, will want to replace, like 8" bread knives and skillets.) I'd go With the Bluestar and over the cooktop vent. My Ventahood has been a solid performer for years, better than the Thermador at my old house.

        2. If you can't mount a conventional hood directly over the cooktop, the cooktop is in the wrong place, in my opinion.

          1. Cook tops,gas,there are literally dozens.The first thing I would ask is where are geographically? An issue regarding future support may help you choose.Your cooking,do you need high BTU burners or have the cookware for them?Do you make soups and stews stove top,needing a really good low or extra low burner.Your needs and wants are big here,if you already grill and use a slow cooker frequently maybe your cooktop needs are minimal.
            Fan and exhaust are tougher to solve.DOWNDRAFT ??It's not for me,but maybe all you need. Have you looked at all the brands?? the list isn't long,but there is more than JennAire.

            1. In option 2, do you mean that you'd run ducting straight up and then take a 90 degree at the ceiling to head to a vent that leads? That's probably the best bet, unless your existing ducting takes a lot of turns in the wall on its way out from the kitchen. If it does, it might be worth it to create a separate duct.

              Additional notes: Make sure your ventilation is close enough to the cooktop even if it looks dorky (no more than 30"), and spring for a Vent-A-Hood if at all possible. When I helped my Mom redo her kitchen, we were told a Zephyr would work just as well. It does not. (I'd go with a 36" wide hood for a 30" cooktop)

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              1. re: ninrn

                Sorry I wasn't clear. This is an island and we can't vent through the ceiling. We can vent through the floor to the outside. From what I am reading on here most people do not like downdraft cooktops or downdraft vents. I am also gathering that the separate vent that raises up is the better of those two options (but not much better).

                1. re: sqmr3

                  You can do without a vent altogether if you don't have a high-output stove and don't cook things that put a lot of smoke and such into the air.

                  1. re: GH1618

                    Wow, really? That would be great. I think then we'd do a utility fan through the wall in case we burn something. Having a real hard time making a decision about this and we need to decide. I assume it would be very difficult to go back and add a downdraft vent at a later time, cutting through granite.

                    1. re: sqmr3

                      Hoods are nice, but I haven't had one for sometime now. I avoid making smoke as much as possible. I used to make a lot of stir fry dishes, for which a smoking hot wok is best, but I'm not doing that now. It would leave deposits on everything. If you opt for just an exhaust fan elsewhere in the room, you shouldn't get a puny one. Try to get one with sufficient capacity or it's not really worth doing, in my opinion.

                      Why can't yoy put a grille in the ceiling with ductwork between the ceiling and the floor above, leading to an external fan?

                    2. re: GH1618

                      I'd rethink that with a gas stove, there may be building codes that require an outside vent for gas cooktops. That's the case where I live, gas must now be vented to the outside.

                      1. re: mikie

                        Of course local codes prevail.