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DGresh Nov 26, 2012 01:18 PM

Was just there today and it had that "sparse" look when a place is in trouble. Whole shelves in the freezer, cheese area, and "fancy bean" area that were empty. No milk in the refrigerator (though it was being restocked). I know there was some serious legal issues brought out in the newspaper this past summer. Has anyone noticed some serious problems there lately?

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    wincountrygirl Nov 26, 2012 01:22 PM

    Is this the place in Croton?

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      DGresh Nov 26, 2012 02:59 PM

      yes, sorry

    2. i_eat_a_lot_of_ice_cream Nov 26, 2012 01:25 PM

      I heard they were changing owners.

      1. Marge Nov 26, 2012 01:55 PM

        I was just discussing this with friends this weekend--yes, we have noticed very serious problems lately! As you pointed out, sparsely stocked cheeses (which used to be fabulous) the most notable to me, also way less of their homemade dips, cut fruits, etc...I have also noticed lately a deterioration of cleanliness, and "off" odors. The owners are currently facing charges of large scale tax evasion--too bad, I used to love the market.

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          Elisa515 Nov 26, 2012 06:09 PM

          They lost power for quite awhile after Sandy. Had to discard much of the perishables. I don't know if there are other issues, but that could explain the empty shelves. Maybe there are cash flow issues related to lost sales and waiting for insurance?

          However, my husband shopped there tonight and said he noticed things were quite sparse in the produce department. So, dunno.

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            DGresh Nov 27, 2012 02:53 AM

            I go there at least twice a week, and yesterday was a real change from what I've observed over the last month since Sandy. Maybe cash flow is a problem.

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              Nancy C Nov 28, 2012 06:37 PM

              Have to go to the CVS tomorrow - will check this out. It'd be a shame to lose them - the cheese selection is very good, and it's my go-to for when I need RIPE fruit (e.g. pears for eating today, not next week). With the tax evasion problems, I'd sure think that it the owners were able to skim off millions from their various stores, this site could be a going concern if well run, without skimming collected taxes off.. Yuck. Sandy power outage can't have helped!

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            DGresh Dec 12, 2012 06:12 AM

            Story today says that management blames the empty shelves on "slow business". I'm not buying it.

            http://cortlandt.dailyvoice.com/busin...

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              Marge Dec 12, 2012 11:16 AM

              The readers comments are interesting, and I agree.

            2. Nancy C Jul 10, 2013 02:46 PM

              Went there yesterday (7/10/13) - shelves are still thin, less produce than ever. HOWEVER, signs on the door and conversation with cashier indicate it's been sold, someone else taking over, going to do a renovation (sounds like they'll try to keep it open while doing so), so hopeful for a good outcome. I always figured if they current owners of the mini-chain of stores were skimming off $, there's a viable business underneath it all. Hope it stays relatively upscale and such... Good luck!

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                DGresh Jul 11, 2013 02:35 AM

                It's good to hear that perhaps things will improve soon. I was there a week or so ago, and in the front where they have nuts and dried fruit, there was more or less just one of each representative item, nothing behind them or on top, where the shelves used to be stacked. The cheeses were pathetic; almost nothing there. Quite sad.

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                wincountrygirl Jul 21, 2013 05:35 AM

                Just saw this article

                http://www.lohud.com/article/20130719...

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                  DGresh Jul 21, 2013 06:15 AM

                  From the article it doesn't sound like things are going anywhere than downhill

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                    vinouspleasure Jul 21, 2013 07:12 AM

                    was in a couple of weeks ago, the cashier said they were closing, 50% off all perishables, they might renovate and re-open. I thought that was the last day but it's stayed open.

                    I'm not willing to buy anything, especially perishables, knowing they're under severe financial pressure and might be tempted to cut corners on freshness.

                    would be nice if turcos moved in...or how about a fairway!

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                      wincountrygirl Jul 22, 2013 04:16 AM

                      I would love to have a Fairway closer to me, but alas, I don't think Croton is that easy from Goldens Bridge. I do have Turcos close by in Yorktown and I love it, but still wanting Fairway.

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                        DGresh Jul 22, 2013 04:48 AM

                        So I guess Turcos will have to become my go-to for the sort of thing that Zeytinia carried (though I think Zeytinia did better in the olive oil/dried beans/other exotica dept); I guess I may become more acquainted with Adams in Wappingers; are there good substitutes in the area north of 287 (or slightly south)?

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                          lemarais Jul 23, 2013 08:31 AM

                          Apple Farm is a very good place for produce, (better than Zeytinia IMO) and it's right off 287 in WP. Good Italian deli inside the store as well.

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                            DGresh Jul 23, 2013 08:51 AM

                            Thanks for the reminder; I've never visited there but will put it on my list-

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                              MisterBill2 Jul 23, 2013 11:33 PM

                              I've been a fan of Apple Farm for a while but I've now purchased 3 produce/fruit items there in the past month that have been disappointing. First was sugar snap peas which were stringy (some were good), next donut peaches which never ripened and were horrible, and now some apricots which my daughter said tasted mushy. Better to drive an extra mile and go to H-Mart.

                              I didn't shop at Zeytinia very often, but their produce had been looking bad for the past year or so, certainly not what it had been when they first opened.

                              Adams in Wappingers is great if you can get there.

                              And Fairway isn't coming to the Zeytinia location. It's about 50,000 square feet smaller than their normal locations. Maybe if they could tear down the whole shopping center it would fit (but there still wouldn't be enough parking). On the bright side, they're coming to Nanuet in the fall, which will be closer for many of us than their Westchester store (which is closer to The Bronx than it is to most of us in Westchester).

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                                DGresh Jul 24, 2013 04:00 AM

                                Yeah Hmart great for produce but it probably isn't going to have the Italian specialties (oils, vinegars, dried legumes, etc.) that Zeytinia had.... Zeytinia was so convenient to me, it's sad.

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                                  wincountrygirl Jul 24, 2013 04:04 AM

                                  I've been to Apple Farms a few times and I have to say, I know people love it but there is something about it that I just don't like. It has a dirty feel to it. I've gotten a few things and I wasn't impressed.

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                                    chowdom Jul 24, 2013 07:29 PM

                                    I'm not sure if this is the case with all the Fairways since going public, but the Pelham Manor store was a dirty mess this past Sunday. ALL of the produce was disgusting and rotten. They also didn't have two items I was looking for, that was a first. I have been getting most of my "super market" produce this summer from Fresh Market and it has been very good.

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                                      wincountrygirl Jul 25, 2013 04:03 AM

                                      Chowdom, but Fresh Market are you referring to A&P fresh market? If so , which one. The produce at the one in Mt. Kisco is awful. I've been getting mine at Turcos or farms as much as possible.

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                                        chowdom Jul 25, 2013 05:34 AM

                                        Sorry "The" Fresh Market Scarsdale

                                        http://www.thefreshmarket.com/

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                                          wincountrygirl Jul 25, 2013 07:39 AM

                                          That explains it! The A&P "fresh market" produce is awful

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                                  wincountrygirl Jul 24, 2013 04:02 AM

                                  I love Turcos, but I'm not sure about the olive oil and other exotica there. Fresh breads are great, excellent fish department, very good produce - a lot of local stuff. Of course for produce you can always go down the road from Turcos and hit Meadow Farms.

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                                    Elisa515 Jul 24, 2013 06:38 AM

                                    Actually Turcos has a decent variety of oils and vinegars, right opposite the butcher counter. Unfortunately, no tastings.

                                    I wonder if the Old World Market in Nyack is part of the group with Zeytinia.

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                                      wincountrygirl Jul 24, 2013 09:57 AM

                                      Right. Don't know why I forgot about that.

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                            lemarais Jul 25, 2013 09:01 AM

                            "Fresh Market" and "A & P Fresh" are 2 distinct and quite different entities. It's not clear which one is being referred to here...

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                              wincountrygirl Jul 25, 2013 10:00 AM

                              I am referring to A&P while Chowdom is taking about Fresh Express in Scarsdale. That wa s my confusion.

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                              mrsdebdav Jul 25, 2013 06:50 PM

                              Agree with the negative comments about Apple Farm. Always thought it offered sub-par fruits and veg. Was not impressed by anything else they sold.
                              If going to HMart, Central Ave has other stores which, while small, are gems for ethnic grocery shopping. Yaranoush concentrates on Middle Eastern specialties: a trove of oils, legumes, dried fruits, and way too much to list. Dante's is a jumble of imported specialties. Mariachi Loco has a grocery next to their restaurant (I've been to the restaurant - love it!, but not the grocery).

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                                DGresh Jul 26, 2013 07:38 AM

                                So this morning I checked out Yaranoush-- thank you! Cool stuff there. I bought various lentils, lavosh, quinoa, a huge jar of capers, and turkish coffee for my pot. I would have never in a million years known it was there if you hadn't mentioned it, even though I drive right past it going to HMart. I also visited Fresh Market, and while it's a bit more "fancy pants gourmet" than I usually need, I got some dried lavender, some unusual flavor'd Izzi, and shaved unsweetened coconut at a very good price. It's a bit far for me, but good to know it's there.

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                                  wincountrygirl Jul 26, 2013 07:54 AM

                                  Where exactly is Fresh Market? I'd like to check,it out next time I head down to H Mart.

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                                    DGresh Jul 26, 2013 08:05 AM

                                    Not particularly close (about 5 miles away I guess):
                                    725 Post Road
                                    Scarsdale, NY 10583

                                    but given that Hmart is a half hour drive to begin with for me, another 5 miles is not a big deal

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                                      wincountrygirl Jul 26, 2013 08:13 AM

                                      H Mart is 1/2 hour for me too. But while I'm down there I usually check put as many places as possible. Thanks!

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                                      Elisa515 Jul 26, 2013 08:44 AM

                                      Also Fresh Market is right by Trader Joe's, so it's part of an efficient food shopping trip.

                                      Hat trick food shopping trips:
                                      1. H-Mart, Trader Joe's (well, there's one right by H-Mart, too), Fresh Market
                                      2. Stew Leonard's, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods in Danbury (ssshhhh, don't tell anyone I mentioned another region)

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                                        wincountrygirl Jul 26, 2013 12:44 PM

                                        Nice!!!! Although I also sometimes do a pastrami stop at Epsteins to bring back for my husband.

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                                          chowdom Jul 26, 2013 07:09 PM

                                          I like the Scarsdale/Eastchester TJ's so much more than the one on Central Ave. It's cleaner less cluttered and carries a greater variety of products.

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                                            MisterBill2 Jul 28, 2013 07:31 PM

                                            Except that there's a TJ's walking distance from H Mart so you don't need to go down there (oops I see you already mentioned this). Fresh Market was too expensive for me.

                                            And yes, it's great having decent shopping options in Danbury. Maybe they'll get a Fairway too (although I don't know that Stamford is doing too well so they may want to concentrate on NY and NJ).

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                                          chowdom Jul 26, 2013 07:02 PM

                                          If you go to Yaranoush again try their French feta...it's terrific.

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                                            liza219 Aug 31, 2013 09:15 PM

                                            The Bulgarian feta is great, too. They also carry a thicker fillo dough, which is hard to come by (#10, "country style"). I used to have to go to Clifton, NJ..or NYC for many of the products they sell (though a bit pricier).

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                                            mrsdebdav Jul 27, 2013 02:53 PM

                                            So happy you liked it!

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                                          lemarais Jul 26, 2013 04:07 PM

                                          Actually, Apple Farm has similar produce quality to the supermarket... at much lower prices! It's also displayed more attractively than in the supermarket, and in a bit larger variety. A very good Italian Deli section as well. (Great soppressatta!)

                                          1. MisterBill2 Aug 30, 2013 07:17 PM

                                            I was in Croton on Thursday and stopped by Zeytinia. They had a 50% off sale and the store was mostly empty. There was a sign on the door saying that they would be renovating and reopening under new management but I did not notice if it said when. I wouldn't be surprised if it closed this weekend.

                                            1. Nancy C Oct 4, 2013 03:50 PM

                                              Closed, closed, closed... I hope someone re-opens it...

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