30" Gas Bertzzoni vs. Verona vs. ??
I am barely able to swing my budget to afford a Bertazzoni -- just found out -- and I am very excited. I must admit I am looking at aesthetics as a big consideration. I have just come across the Verona online, knew nothing at all about it, have never seen one in person. Prior to this, I was looking at ranges around $2500 such as KitchenAid, GE, etc. I like the idea of knobs only, though. I am also nuts about the idea of a RED range.
I like to bake -- just simple things such as pies, cakes, cookies. Haven't taken up breadmaking yet. Most of our daily cooking is done on the rangetop, a lot of sauteing, stews, etc. Our current stove is a Magic Chef of unknown age, knobs only, little heat output or control over burners and very, very uneven oven heating. As you can see, anything is going to be an upgrade for us!
Some of my concerns include service, even heating, etc. I understand that the oven is quite small, but I don't think that is a concern. I should be able to hack something for the once-a-year turkey, and my guest list is small: 6-8 people. No 20-lb turkeys. I am not too concerned about heat output from the oven as I live in a cold climate (VT). I love the idea of a higher output burner and a simmer burner.
I have searched previous threads here and on GardenWeb but would appreciate any input.
Thanks in advance.
Hi - this response is kind of late. But in case you didn't buy a range yet, I wanted to comment on the Verona. I bought one last month after copious internet searching for a 36" under $5000. I ended up getting the Verona dual fuel with the single oven and think the cooking quality for the money is outstanding. I mainly wanted the European convection oven for baking - I do lots of bread, cakes, scones & cookies - but the cooktop is fantastic. Very even cooking. Only drawbacks, if you can call it that, is that preheating the oven takes longer than my old oven, probably because it is so large. And the simmer burner is still just a little too warm for simmering small amounts. But overall, I love it to pieces. It's even easy to clean. No big holes in the cooktop for food to fall into. I got the red color and it's gorgeous. Paid around $2999 from AJ Madison online. Be aware that it doesn't come with a plug. I had to have an electrician bring the plug and upgrade my amperage to 40 amps. But it was a simple job. Wait - there goes the timer on the pound cake. Gotta go!
Hi - just wondering what you ended up choosing? I'm in a similar situation - redoing my kitchen and have an old, old, almond colored Magic Chef (here when we bought the house). Looking at the 36" gas Verona vs. the Berta. I have the same exact concerns or not as you. I'd love to hear your input! Thanks!!!
I went through this in 2011 while helping my Mom re-do her kitchen.
We looked at the Verona, but couldn't find enough information or reviews to be comfortable buying it, especially sight unseen as we'd have had to here in New Mexico. The appliance dealer we worked with said, in his experience, they're "a bit rough around the edges", welds not always smooth, things like that. But I don't know if he just said that because it would have been a hassle for him to order one.
My Mom fell in love with the Bertazzoni. They are stunning and beautifully made. But the ovens are SMALL. The reason for this seems to be that some mechanicals that stick out at the back of most ovens are tucked inside the cavity of the Bertazzoni, leaving a much shallower oven space. The one on the 30" is only about as big as a large toaster oven. The oven on the 36" model is listed as a much more reasonable 4.4 cu ft, but its usability really depends on how those 4.4. cu. feet are laid out. Especially if you're getting the convection model, the space could still be super shallow so it's totally worth it to take some of your most commonly used ovenware into the showroom to check how things fit.
We reluctantly passed on the beautiful 30" Bertie after seeing that there was no way to put even two standard bundt pans side by side in the oven. And the most powerful burners on all Bertazzonis are only about 12,000 BTU's too, making them not very useful for things like wok cooking.
We looked seriously at DCS and Dacor (Dacor mostly because they have a high altitude model), but finally went with a BlueStar and have been thrilled. We ended up getting a 30" for around $1500 on clearance which was a great deal. It's got nice power, an excellent broiler, a nice big oven, and a dishwasher-safe drip tray under the burners that slides out easily for cleaning. I believe they make a number of propane models, too.
I noticed recently that Aga is making under-$5K 36" ranges in their Legacy and PRO series. Don't know much about those lines, but if you like Agas in general, they might be worth a look.