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How much is this Champagne worth?? [moved from California board]

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I have a case of Hanns Kornell Third Generation 25.4 oz 1980 bottles of champagne and I was wondering how much it's worth. I know I should drink it and enjoy it but I really just want to see what I have. There's 11 bottles of Sern Trocken and 1 bottle of the Muscat Alexandria, you would be a great help if you know!

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  1. First of all, you should know that the name of the Hanns Kornell wine in question -- at least 11 of the 12 bottles -- is "Sehr Trocken," meaning "very dry, not "Sern."

    Secondly, the original retail price was somewhere around $10-13, if it was that much. That is, at the winery you'd probably pay $13 or so, but at retail, you could find it for under $10.

    Third, check the back label of the Sehr Trocken and see if a) it's produced from 100 percent Riesling, and b) if there is a disgorgement date shown. Those were the best bottlings of Sehr Trocken, and they might have some value. If those two things are not shown on the back label -- and I fear they changed the wine before 1980 -- then that was after the winery began to cut corners in an attempt to avoid the inevitable . . . and it would be worth significantly less.

    Finally, Hanns Kornell wasn't considered a top California producer of sparkling wine since the 1960s. I cannot imagine that, under any circumstances, the wines are worth very much except to a collector of old California wines -- and since 1980 was well past Kornell's "heyday," I wouldn't expect very much.

    Since you know you should drink and enjoy, I would suggest that you do just that. Except that -- honestly -- I'm not sure the wines would still be very enjoyable. The non-Riesling Sehr Trocken was never meant for aging after it was disgorged, and the Muscat was even less capable of post-release cellaring.

    Sorry.

    1. I collect and sell rare wines. They are not worth anything. Drink up.

      1. HELLO , MAYBE SOMEONE CAN DIRECT ME. I HAVE A BOTTLE OF CHAMPANGE THAT PORSCHE PUT OUT BACK IN THE 80'S. THESE WERE SHIPPED TO DEALERSHIPS TO SELL, BUT FOUND OUT AFTER HAND THEY COULD NOT SELL THEM BECAUSE PORSCHE DID NOT HAVE A LIQUOR LIC. PLEASE SEE PICS AND ADVISE

         
         
         
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        1. re: trucklogistics

          Hello. First of all, you should realize that the wine in question is *not* Champagne. It is Sekt. It is a German sparkling wine produced by Geldermann Privatsektkellerei.

          The wine itself, Geldermann Carte Blanche, retails from €8,81 (http://www.ruesing-weine.de/Sektkelle...) to €12,99 (http://www.galeria-kaufhof.de/marken/...). That's the equivalent on today's market of $9.37-$13.82. Your bottling with the Porsche label might be worth more, but only to a collector of Porsche memorabilia -- not to any wine collector.

          1. re: zin1953

            Bit like calling your Ford car a Porsche because its got four wheels and a steering wheel just the same as a Porsche has :)

            1. re: Gussie Finknottle

              Well, at $10, a Ford might be a bit too upscale . . .

        2. I get people asking me all the time how much their not properly stored wines are worth and in all cases the answer is zero!

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          1. re: wineglas1

            Something tells me that to OP of this resurrected thread won't be back . . .