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Gelatinous Stocks

thespoon124 Nov 13, 2012 02:32 PM

Has anyone ever tried adding gelatin to stocks to mimic veal stock's mouthfeel/ thickening-through-redcution greatness?

I was thrown a curveball today when I couldn't find turkey wings for stock (which will eventually be gravy), so I bought a few pounds of necks. Not that I'm at a huge loss, but I've never made a stock 100% with necks, and I'm worried that they don't have the gracious amounts of collagen found in wings.

Just if anyone was wondering, I'd like the final product to be nappant, but not heavy and clingy like so many turkey gravys are. I'd like to do so completley by reduction, but I'm open to different gums (except xantham). I'd like to steer clear of starch as much as possible. I small knob of beurre manie will be fine, if worse comes to worst.

  1. biondanonima Nov 13, 2012 02:37 PM

    I use chicken feet for the gelatinous mouthfeel in stocks. They have an insane amount of collagen/gelatin and are dirt-cheap and easy to find in my neighborhood. That said, ATK uses gelatin in a number of their recipes to add body to sauces and stocks, so I'd say it's definitely worth a shot.

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    1. re: biondanonima
      MagicMarkR Nov 19, 2012 12:28 PM

      +1 on chicken feet. Plus they add really good "chickeny" flavor compared with wings, in my opinion. Check out a Chinese meat counter if your usual chicken source doesn't have them. They do have the creepiness factor, but hey...

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      thimes Nov 14, 2012 02:45 AM

      I have used gelatin in beef stocks before and it works very well, so I can't see why it wouldn't work in a turkey stock.

      That said, I make stock with turkey necks and backs every year before Thanksgiving and every time it comes out gelatinous without any problems. So you should be fine with all necks.

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        foodieX2 Nov 14, 2012 08:42 AM

        Add a couple TBS or so of apple cider vinagar when making the stock. It helps get all the yummy collogen out of the bones. I make it with just the carcasses and alwasy get a nice gelatinous stock.

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          sr44 Nov 14, 2012 09:11 AM

          ATK is big on this.

          1. chefj Nov 14, 2012 09:11 AM

            I have done it many times and it works great.

            1. Will Owen Nov 19, 2012 12:47 PM

              Necks yield at least as gelatinous a stock as wings, as they have much more bone and sinew. I use necks almost exclusively when I can get them, not only turkey necks but chicken and lamb as well, when I need a rich savory base for something. Of course feet are good too; I'm just saying that you should be fine with just the necks. And if you're making giblet gravy, the neck meat (though tedious to get at) is much tastier than wing meat ever was, even after broth-making.

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              1. re: Will Owen
                johnnyb510 Nov 19, 2012 12:56 PM

                I ditto using chicken feet, a good long simmering w/onion, celery tops. garlic and pretty much anything will yield a great stock...strain of course. Backs and necks and wings come in 2nd but really good too...Oh PS, chicken feet aren't as cheap as a few years ago...not really a surprise.

                1. re: johnnyb510
                  PesachBenSchlomo Nov 20, 2012 06:12 AM

                  And so hard to find when you live even a couple of hours out-of-town. I'm waiting for a Fairway in Hudson, NY.

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                Puffin3 Nov 20, 2012 06:40 AM

                Apple cider vinegar? Would any type of vinegar work the same? I always break the bones to help get the most out of them.

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                1. re: Puffin3
                  foodieX2 Nov 20, 2012 06:51 AM

                  You can use any vinegar but ACV lends a brightness of flavor and compliments the broth. Regulate white vinegar can be bitter. I have never tried the myriad of flavored vinegars out there.

                  1. re: foodieX2
                    Puffin3 Nov 20, 2012 07:18 AM

                    Thanks. I'll add ASV to my next stock.

                2. luckyfatima Nov 20, 2012 06:41 AM

                  Oooh, I must try the chicken feet tip!

                  I get rich stocks with necks, wings, backbones.

                  But yeah, gonna try chicken feet now for even more depth!

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