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2012 Stuffing or Dressing or Whatever....

Let's not fight about the name of the thing.....if you think about it, both names are somewhat silly and non-descriptive. In the bird (or the pork roll, or whatever), or out, it can be yummy or tasteless. Share your stained, treasured recipes (probably again, but the last thread about it was too long to read!)

Mine:

Saute celery (1 rib), onions (1/2 cup), and peeled chopped apples (3) (Jonathans!) and S&P in unsalted butter (1/2 stick). Throw into a giant bowl of cubed white bread (high-quality, 1 small or 1/2 large loaf). Add poultry seasoning (2 T.), 2 beaten eggs, 1/4 cup sugar (not kidding - very important), and 1/2 cup to 1 cup homemade chicken stock or good apple cider - enough to make it pretty moist. Stir like mad for a while. Done. NOTE: The bread should be pretty fresh - none of this drying or toasting stuff.

Mind you, this is a family recipe and I've had to work at coming up with exact measurements - if you make this you have to use a few instincts.Taste it for salt, for example.

The most unusual element here is the sugar - it really makes it work and the sweetness is yummy.

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  1. Thanksgivings Past in old newspapers - Recipes & Menus

    The Milwaukee Journal - Nov 20, 1920
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    Greensburg Daily Tribune - Nov 30, 1928
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    Lewiston Morning Tribune - Nov 22, 1932
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    Spokane Daily Chronicle - Nov 22, 1934
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    Spokane Daily Chronicle - Nov 14, 1940
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    The Milwaukee Journal - Nov 22, 1948
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    The Miami News - Nov 25, 1957
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    The Spokesman-Review - Nov 23, 1959
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    The Evening Independent - Nov 25, 1963
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    The Spokesman-Review - Nov 21, 1968
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    The Free Lance-Star - Nov 20, 1974
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    Youngstown Vindicator - Nov 19, 1977
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    The Free Lance-Star - Nov 22, 1982
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    The Press-Courier - Nov 20, 1987
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    Ellensburg Daily Record - Nov 22, 1993
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=...

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    1. re: Antilope

      Wow, I haven't gotten through all of these great links yet, but they are really fascinating. Thanks! It looks like things have changed very little on the Thanksgiving plate over close to 100 years. I wonder what "peas in patty" is. Might have to ask Ms. Google.....

    2. Three or four parts cornbread to one part biscuit
      Sauteed onion and celery
      Rich, homemade, chicken stock
      Salt and pepper to taste (lots of black pepper)

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      1. re: kengk

        I haven't had cornbread stuffing - I need to try it, for sure. Even though my mother grew up in the south and ate cornbread and biscuits every day, when she left she was determined to only eat "light" bread stuffing, so that's what we had. Now I live in the north where cornbread is an oddity.....

      2. I have never been a fan of the soft, eggy type of stuffing - it was what my mother made, and until I was exposed to other kinds, I just thought I didn't like stuffing, period. I've been doing my own Thanksgiving for several years now, though, and have created a stuffing recipe that my husband and I ADORE. It's chunky and rustic, with big chunks of bread that burst with buttery stock juices. A bit labor-intensive but oh SO worth it!

        A few days before T-day I bake baguettes using a basic flour/water/yeast/salt/pinch of sugar recipe. The resulting bread has a nice elastic texture and a crisp/chewy, relatively thin crust. I tear them by hand into bite-sized pieces and let them dry out for several days. The day before T-day, I whiz carrots, celery and onion in the food processor to create a finely textured mirepoix and saute in LOTS of butter. I also roast coarsely chopped fennel, halved cremini mushrooms and loads of shallots until they're caramelized. Finally, I brown up a bunch of sage sausage and reconstitute some dry porcini mushrooms. I refrigerate all of that overnight.

        The morning of, all of those goodies get mixed in with the bread, along with a generous amount of turkey or chicken stock and some of the porcini soaking liquid, and placed in a WELL buttered casserole. I generously dot the top of the casserole with butter as well (at least another stick!), then bake, covered for 30 mins and then uncovered for another 30 or so, until it's VERY well browned. The top (and bottom) cubes have a crispy edge that gives way to unctuous but still distinct bread. The vegetables and sausage just cling to the bread cubes and every bite is a little different - here a chunk of fennel, there a sweet burst of caramelized shallot.

        Why is Thanksgiving still 3 weeks away????

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        1. re: biondanonima

          Yours sounds like an animal that I might have to roll out this winter....thanks.

          1. re: biondanonima

            That sounds right up my alley! As a fellow stuffing lover, let me suggest adding one small dimension to your recipe. I also use a whackload of butter when I make my stuffing, but a couple of years ago, I started setting aside a cup of turkey fat that I skim off when I make my turkey stock (for the advance gravy, of course!) and use the turkey fat to make the stuffing -- I saute all the onions and veggies in the fat and butter. I find the combination of the butter + turkey fat really gives my stuffing the flavour it would have gotten had it truly been stuffed into the bird. I also use the turkey stock for the stuffing instead of chicken stock.

            The rest of the turkey fat goes into making the roux for the gravy. Waste not, want not. :o)

            1. re: TorontoJo

              Ooh, the turkey fat idea sounds great - I've got some schmaltz rendered that might do the trick as well. I always use turkey fat for my gravy roux but there's usually more than I need...

            2. re: biondanonima

              How do I convince these folks that this is the way to go? Yum!

              1. re: melpy

                Stuffing is a family thing! See my post further down about baking it in the dish with turkey wings. It adds the turkey flavor without as much fat, and you have cooked wings to make into stock later!

            3. We've had this one for the past few years, it's from Sunset magazine. My mom grows chard so she started doing it as a way to use it up, and it's quite tasty. As a kid, for some reason we never really had stuffing that much if we had Tgiving at home. At my aunt's she just used Pepperidge Farm.

              http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/itali...

              Italian Chard Stuffing

              3/4 loaf (3/4 lb.) French bread
              1 1/2 cups nonfat milk
              2 pounds Italian sausages
              1 cup chopped parsley
              1 garlic clove, minced or pressed
              1 medium onion, chopped
              1/2 cup finely chopped celery
              1 1/2 pounds green Swiss chard, stem ends trimmed, coarsely chopped
              1 1/2 cups freshly grated parmesan cheese
              1 1/2 teaspoons dried basil
              1/4 teaspoon dried rubbed sage
              1/4 teaspoon dried rosemary
              Salt

              1. Cut bread into 1/2-in. slices. Place slices in a large bowl and add milk. Mix gently with a spoon to saturate with milk and let stand about 30 minutes. Stir occasionally.

              2. Meanwhile, place a 6- to 8-qt. pot over high heat. Squeeze sausages from casings into pot. Discard casings. Cook meat, stirring often to crumble, until lightly browned, 10 to 15 minutes; discard fat. Add parsley, garlic, onion, and celery. Cook, stirring often, until vegetables are lightly browned, 5 to 8 minutes. Add chard and 1/2 cup water and cook, stirring often, until wilted, about 5 minutes.

              3. With your hands, squeeze bread slices to break them into tiny pieces. Add cooked meat mixture, parmesan, basil, sage, and rosemary. Season with salt to taste.

              4. Preheat oven to 325° or 350° (use temperature turkey requires; see Note below). Spoon stuffing into a shallow 3-qt. (9- by 13-in.) casserole. For moist stuffing, cover with foil; for crusty stuffing, do not cover. Bake until hot (at least 150° in center) or lightly browned, at least 30 minutes.

              Make ahead: Up to 1 day ahead, make stuffing, put in casserole, cover, and chill. Allow about 1 hour to bake.

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              1. Once big enough to help in kitchen and not just get in the way, my Grandmother would put whichever grand kids were available to work.

                A day or 2 before T-Day... lots of "day old" bread was ripped up into a HUGE bowl... to stale up a bit.

                Day before... all the "goodies" from inside the bird went into a pot to make some stock... neck, heart, gizzard, etc.

                Early the day of... LOTS of chopped celery and onions into BIG cast iron skillet with a LOT of butter... and HADDA be Bell's seasoning and some S&P. Not browned, just cooked till soft and cooled till ya could handle it. Poured over all that bread and mixed around by several pairs of hands... if a little dry, some of that stock went in.

                As much as possible was smooshed into both ends of the bird and secured with these sad, bent up, trussing "pins"??. Whatever just would NOT fit inside the bird, went into a casserole... frankly, NOT as tasty as stuff in-bird, but still yummy... especially with great gravy over the top.