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Help I forgot to turn my crockpot on!

Rban1000 Oct 26, 2012 10:04 PM

I made a beef stew (cholent) for my family with a lot of beef and beans and I forgot to turn it on for 4 to 5 hours, not sure exactly. As soon as I realized it I turned it on to the highest setting for 1.5 hours and now it is on the Low setting bubbling. It will be cooking on low for at least 12 hours more because my family is orthodox and they will be wanting to eat it tomorrow for lunch.
Is it ok to feed them or should I break the news that there is no cholent stew for Saturday lunch because I spoiled the meat?? It smells good and I am feeling terrible about this can I serve it to them tomorrow?

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  1. KaimukiMan RE: Rban1000 Oct 26, 2012 10:26 PM

    There have been any number of threads about food left out, most of the time it's food that was cooked and not put away afterwards. There is a good chance it's fine, but the safe answer is to dump it, especially if you are going to feed your whole family

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      Rban1000 RE: Rban1000 Oct 26, 2012 10:39 PM

      Darn it I was thinking I may have to dump it :( that is so upsetting

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        Rban1000 RE: Rban1000 Oct 26, 2012 11:01 PM

        Does it make a difference that the meat being kosher was very salted beforehand to remove all blood etc?

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          1POINT21GW RE: Rban1000 Oct 26, 2012 11:12 PM

          Nope - toss it. When in doubt, throw it out. I know it sucks, but foodborne illness sucks even more.

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          MikeG RE: Rban1000 Oct 26, 2012 11:37 PM

          Considering the length of cooking time, I would take a chance on it myself, and I'm normally very cautious about this sort of thing. I think there's a big difference between food that sat out a little too long before being cooked for a very long time, and food that sat out for a very long time after being cooked, which is rarely heated very hot or very long before being eaten.

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            1MunchieMonster RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 01:08 AM

            You could refrigerate it for later and test-taste it. If no ill effects, serve it later.

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              jaykayen RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 01:14 AM

              It will be fine.

              II am more concerned that it will be on low for 12 hours, but I guess you have been making this recipe for a while. Is there no "Warm" setting that you can switch it to?

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                lemony05 RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 02:00 AM

                I have eaten leftovers left out for as long as a couple of days and I didn't have any problem. The only thing is your beef was still uncooked when left out so I am not sure about its safety, 4 or 5 hours isn't that long though; I do defrost meat sometimes (I usually defrost in the fridge) on the counter and again no ill effects. Personally I would eat it because I am not very willing to waste food unless it's patently spoiled, but if somebody in your family has a weak immune system I would be a lot more cautious.

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                  melpy RE: lemony05 Oct 27, 2012 04:14 AM

                  Unless dealing with a compromised immune system or pregnant folk I would risk it.

                2. Ruthie789 RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 05:19 AM

                  I live in Canada and we have had an ecoli outbreak in red meat, it is now under control. However, consumer shows have been explaining how meat is processed and if meat has been tenderized as many cuts are they are recommending that the beef be well done. Based on this I now think beef can become contaminated, and since your beef was left out for quite a bit of time, I would not take the chance.

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                    INDIANRIVERFL RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 05:27 AM

                    Sounds to me that you dry aged the beef for 5 hours before cooking. If wet, you marinaded it for the same amount of time.

                    And while you can cook microorganisms to death, it is very hard to breakdown most toxins. Eat a spoonful now, and in a few hours you will know if it is good or not.

                    1. 1POINT21GW RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 09:37 AM

                      Haha! Here we go again. Until recently, I had no idea so many Americans were so ignorant (not being mean - ignorant means unknowing, not stupid) of the dangers of foodborne illnesses and food safety. It almost makes me not want to eat at other people's houses unless I've quizzed them food safety beforehand.

                      Food is cheap. Yes, it is tempting, but so are many risky things in life. Do we get burned every time? No. But, when the alternative is so easy, why chance it? It only seems like the logical decision to me.

                      Also, the whole "eat just a little bit and see if you get sick" mentality is yet another illogical statement. You can get just as sick from one bite of food as you can from an entire meal. To put it simply, bad stuff that makes us sick and kills us is extraordinarily small (one cell of e. coli is smaller than one cubic micrometer - a micrometer is one thousandth of a millimeter). It only takes as few as 10 cells to knock us down. This one-bite-test stuff is silly.

                      I guess I don't even want to know how many of us know that it's good to wash our hands before handling food and the proper way to do so.

                      To look at this positively, I admire those out there who understand and respect food safety and foodborne illnesses. You are a smart bunch.

                      When in doubt throw it out.

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                        lcool RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 10:51 AM

                        In spite of all written here about the beef,your worst fears should be the BEANS.Your crockpot is now the PERFECT PETRI DISH.

                        1. charles_sills RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 01:55 PM

                          if it was 4 hours, i beleive you can have foods in the danger zone for no more than 4 hours. so it should be ok. i would eat it. but im sure the wisest choice is to throw it out.

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                            Rban1000 RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 03:35 PM

                            I threw it away but it was a good lesson learned it may have been good but just the worry would have ruined the meal and there was other stuff to serve. My family is full of small children and my husband and I just got over some food poisoning I didn't want to risk it or even just have that worry.

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                              sedimental RE: Rban1000 Oct 27, 2012 03:51 PM

                              I would probably have eaten it. I don't always follow government regulations/advice in my kitchen. The scenario you described would have not caused me grave concern enough to toss it (I don't think so, anyway).

                              But, if it did cause concern, I can relate. I am like that too. If I "think" it might be risky, I can't enjoy it! No sense in eating something you are worried about!

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